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Pillars of Fake Leftism Exposed: WSWS.org

by: donkeytale

Sat Jul 21, 2012 at 10:26:15 AM EST


There is a website on the blogroll here called the World Socialist Website. Frequently, it runs editorial content extolling the supposed virtues of certain Middle Eastern dictatorships in their supposed anti-imperialist struggles against the US and NATO countries during the Arab Spring.

Its content has been widely cited by "infantile ultraleftist" bloggers in recent years to form reactionary critiques of the populist Green Movement in Iran, also to create a defensive wall of pseudo-leftist solidarity around Moammar Qaddafi during and after the western intervention in the Lybian revolution. Most recently WSWS, along with a myriad of internet-based propagandists led by the likes of Pepe Escobar, Alex Jones and As'ad AbuKhalil, has sucessfully induced a sort of free-floating, delusionally paranoid narrative among a small cohort of dedicated online denizens who inhabit certain leftist blogs regarding the Western invasion of Syria that, uhhhm, hasn't actually taken place.

Along with the above-mentioned pseudo-intellectual trash talkers, WSWS articles have helped to form the attitude and shape the cookie cutter knowledge base of many so-called leftist bloggers, whose political opinions on close inspection turn out to be reactionary, sometimes racist and frequently conservative.

donkeytale :: Pillars of Fake Leftism Exposed: WSWS.org
What the blogging naifs relying on this propaganda organ may not realise is that the WSWS is operated by a long-discredited reactionist fringe cult with its roots in Britain, that poses as a revolutionary vanguard and was previously fronted by Gerry Healy. Today this fringe group is known as the Separate Equality Party/IC (formerly the Workers Revolitionary Party/IC). The SEPtic as its now called, has evolved to become vehemently anti-union in recent times.

It was said to have been in the public relations employ of several Middle Eastern despots for several decades, including the Ayatollahs in Iran during the co-optation of the movement there in the late 1970s early 1980s from a secular leftist street struggle for independence to an Islamist coup d etat, when WRP/IC helped to justify through propaganda the selling out of the radicals who had battled the Shah's police force on the streets of Tehran.

One of the more prolific sources on the Internet regarding the Iran turmoil has been the World Socialist Web Site (WSWS). Although a casual reader might miss it, the WSWS is run by David North's Socialist Equality Party (SEP) which periodically claims to defend the "heritage" (while trampling on the revolutionary program) of Trotskyism. Usually posing as a kind of generic socialist alternative to "mainstream" organs of liberal U.S. imperialism such as the New York Times and The Nation, the SEP declares its "solidarity" with the "International Committee of the Fourth International" (ICFI), consisting of SEP subsidiaries in several countries. Like the WWP in the "antiwar" movement, this dual posture occasionally brings the WSWS into conflict with segments of its cyberreadership - as currently over Iran. The Northites are not as crude as the Marcyites, preferring to one-sidedly bash Mousavi rather than singing hosannas to Ahmadinejad. But in the end, North & Co. politically line up with the hard-line Islamists ... and not just today. Back in 1978-79, these "socialists" loudly defended Khomeini against the Trotskyists who warned against bowing to Islamic reaction.

The WSWS' main line of argument is that the pro-Mousavi "green wave" in Iran is another edition of the U.S.-sponsored "rose revolution" in Georgia (2003) and "orange revolution" in Ukraine (2004). As we wrote earlier, "at first glance this looks very much like a U.S.-instigated color-coded 'revolution'," and "certainly, the imperialists are up to their usual dirty tricks" - but there are important differences. First, the U.S. government has not staked everything on "regime change," and has responded hesitantly. Then there is the scale of the demonstrations - not a few thousand or tens of thousands, as in Tbilisi and Kiev, but many hundreds of thousands. The WSWS' claim  ("Iran, Imperialism and the Left," 7 July) that "the Mousavi protest movement was a middle-class protest that lacked mass support" just doesn't hold water. Certainly, just because a movement is big doesn't make it progressive: look at U.S.-backed Solidarność in Poland. What fueled that movement was anti-Soviet Polish nationalism and Catholic reaction. In Iran today, while the protests are politically dominated by a wing of the Islamic Republic's bourgeois rulers, they are fed by mass discontent over three decades of reactionary clerical dictatorship.

WSWS continue today to offer vehement reactionary support for the authoritarian bourgeois Syrian Government in its quest to beat down the majority Syrian population's rebellion against four decade police state repression.

Remember Gerry Healy, Gen-X pseudo lefties? No?

Gerry Healy, the founder-leader of the British Workers Revolutionary Party (WRP) who headed the IC until the mid-1980s, had a well-deserved reputation as a cynical political thug with a penchant for pseudo-dialectical gibberish and crisis mongering. In the late 1960s, along with Ernest Mandel and the Pabloist "United Secretariat" (USec), the IC hailed various Middle East bonapartists as manifestations of a trans-class "Arab Revolution." The IC also shared the Pabloists' enthusiasm for Mao Zedong's "Red Guard" faction during the massive intra-bureaucratic wrangle known as the "Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution." Today, in a symmetrical deviation, North's SEP denies that China was ever any sort of workers' state.

By the 1980s, the political prostitutes of the IC were acting as paid publicists for Libya's Muammar el Qaddafi and other Arab despots. The most despicable act of these political gangsters was providing intelligence to Saddam Hussein's reactionary Baathist regime on émigré members of the Iraqi Communist Party. When the WRP/IC imploded in 1985-86, former members came forward and told of being sent to take photographs of leftist exiles at demonstrations, which the WRP leadership then passed on to the Iraqi embassy.

After Healy's fall, the current IC leadership, headed by David North, sought to adjust the group's image to something more closely approximating the "anti-Pabloite Trotskyist" tradition it falsely claims to represent. In their disingenuous account of their belated break with Healy, entitled "How the WRP Betrayed Trotskyism," the WL leadership downplayed their record of years of slavish obedience to Healy's every pronouncement. The insistence by North et al that they bear no political responsibility for the IC's crimes, and that everything was Healy's fault, recalls Nikita Khrushchev's 1956 attempt to whitewash the crimes of the Soviet bureaucracy by blaming everything on Stalin. People who go back and examine issues of the Bulletin will see for themselves that the Workers League's uncritical adulation of Qaddafi and the rest of the IC's bonapartist bankrollers was every bit as enthusiastic as the WRP's. They will also see that the SEP/IC, like the USec and almost every other pseudo-Trotskyist tendency, consistently supported counterrevolution in the former Soviet bloc, from Lech Walesa's Polish Solidarnosc in 1981 to Boris Yeltsin's pro-imperialist rabble in Moscow a decade later. With the passage of time, and an influx of politically raw new members, the SEP/IC leadership has tried to distance itself from its inglorious history. The tone of the WSWS today is far less hysterical than the Bulletin used to be, but the program it puts forward is no more revolutionary.

 

How about the late movie-star radical chic poseur Vanessa Redgrave?

Vanessa was always on the Left, but the point at which she disappeared into the extreme Left was in 1973 when she joined Gerry Healy's Workers Revolutionary Party. Corin had joined two years before, but she resisted until a wave of London car bombings convinced her that 'the British military dictatorship' was performing acts of provocation. She was distraught - she also admits in her autobiography that she was drinking heavily at the time, 'opening a bottle of cheap wine every morning to get the fuzzy obliteration of alcohol'. She describes her decision to join the party in the same terms as a religious conversion: 'I realised at that moment that I had no other way to live except in a political struggle with a party that knew that a serious study of history is necessary if we are to gain understanding and prevent a recurrence of repression. I rang Corin and asked him to come to my home then and there. I told him I wanted to apply immediately to become a Trotskyist and a member of the Socialist Labour League.'

She met Gerry Healy (an ugly toad of a man) and travelled with him to meetings: 'The next few weeks were among the most exhilarating of my life. It seemed to me that I learned more in that short space of time than in the whole of my previous existence.' Healy was delighted with his new convert and got her to buy a house in the Peak District to turn into a 'college of Marxism'. According to later defectors, the Red House was run almost like a prison - guards patrolled the perimeter and students were not allowed contact with their families or the outside world, for fear of MI5 infiltration. Naturally, the press were suspicious and in 1978 police raided the house on a tip-off from The Observer that it contained a stockpile of arms. No arms were found and Vanessa and Corin sued The Observer for libel but lost and were left with huge costs. Then, in 1985, the tabloids mounted a huge expose of Gerry Healy based on testimony from defectors - he had sexually abused dozens of women and stolen party funds. Almost all the party members then left - except the Redgraves, who stayed loyal to Healy till his death in 1989.

Today, the SEP/IC is still run very much like a Larouchite cult, a perverted form of radical politics turned into a money-making enterprise. However, unlike LaRouche, who openly abdicated his leftist pretensions for a more realistic brand of neo-conservativism long ago, the SEP/IC remains a duplicitous organisation falsely labelling itself as "Trostkyite" and "Socialist" in order to fool the internet rubes that it regularly disinforms.

Here is a story you might find interesting:

I know of two men. One of them is the leader of a small Trotskyist political party in the United States. He is known as David North. The other is the CEO of Grand River Printing & Imaging, a company that earns 25 million dollars a year according to its website. They call him David W. Green.

For nearly 30 years, Mr. North ran his political party and Mr. Green ran his business. Mr. North gave speeches about the exploitation of the working class. Mr. Green exploited his workers, deriving surplus value from their unpaid labor. Mr. North thundered against the corporations that dominate American political life. Mr. Green sought those corporations out as clients, and probably did lunch with some of their executives. Mr. North would talk about the disgusting climate of corporate greed that pervaded the American cultural atmosphere. Mr. Green helped actualize that corporate greed by printing advertisements to help them push their products on consumers.

Of course Mr. Green was no black-hearted tycoon. No, surely Mr. North would have to exempt from his tirades against the corporations that dominate American politics and exploit the entire world certain capitalist leaders who stood out as genuine pillars of their community. Why, Mr. Green had gone to great lengths to make his workers as comfortable as possible. He invested in their training and education, he included them as part of his "larger vision". But surely Mr. North, who understood Marxism very well, would point out the absence of democratic control of the workplace, or the usual separation of the worker from the instrument of production that is the requisite of capitalist production. After all, his party published in statement after statement that the aim of socialism was to create a democratic economy. Yet none of the reports on Grand River suggested anything about "democracy" or "worker ownership" - Mr. Green may have been a nice man who saw the value in keeping his work horses happy, but he was also a businessman. So surely, should Mr. Green and Mr. North ever meet one another, they would disagree on a great many things.

Unless, of course, they were the same man.

Could it be a case of multipule personality disorder? Not exactly. You see, David Green, alias David North, is a fraud. He is the biggest fraud to hit the socialist movement since James Robertson of the Sparticist Leauge or "Chairman" Bob Avakian of the Revolutionary Communist Party. He owns a multi-million dollar corporation, and the upper echelons of his political cult and members of their family occupy key executive positions.

The rank and file members of the party are completely unaware of the existence of North/Green's corporate empire, which includes Grand River Printing, Merhing Books, and who knows what else. They assume that the party sustains itself through the donations that it begs for on its website and at its conferences, as well as the regular contributions that members are expected to "pledge" every month. I was exempt from this particular requirement only after I reminded one of its leaders of the considerable amounts of money I had invested in my own local branch. How nice of them. I can only imagine the giddy internal glee that North/Green must have felt every time some naive sucker wrote the SEP a check for a few thousand dollars. To North/Green, and the other party leaders, such donations were in fact chump change.

Unsurprisingly, North also has a history of supporting strikebreakers:

Four years ago, the organization known as the Workers League, led by one David North, decided to write off the trade unions, saying "to define the AFL-CIO as a working class organization is to blind the working class" (Bulletin, 10 January 1992; see "Workers League vs. the Unions," WV No. 580, 16 July 1993). Now, in the context of the defeated 17-month-long Caterpillar strike and the four-month battle by Liverpool dockers against union-busting, North & Co. have taken this formulation out of the realm of theory and shown it for what it really is: an open prescription for strikebreaking.

Early last month, as dock workers unions from North America to Australia announced their refusal to handle ships loaded in Liverpool by scabs, North's followers in the British International Communist Party (ICP) wrote a scurrilous article, "Dockers Must Reject Fake Internationalism" (International Worker, 2 December 1995), calling this basic declaration of solidarity a "fraud." Yet some two weeks later, American trade unionists of the International Longshoremen's Association (ILA) turned back a scab Atlantic Container Lines ship from three U.S. ports by honoring picket lines put up by dock workers who had flown in from Liverpool, giving a huge boost to their strike.

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This diary is dedicated to my good friends Socrates (0.00 / 0)
who originally clued me in to the term "right woos left"

and Fairleft, who most often embodies the term.

Good old right-wing British anti-globalism (though wish it were anti-corporate-globalism) (4.00 / 1)

Now we are cranking up for intervention in Syria, too, somehow steering round the UN which is prevented by Russia and China from endorsing this.  And anyone watching or listening to BBC outlets on Wednesday must surely have been struck by the coverage of the terrorist murder of several leading Syrian government figures in Damascus that morning. I think I am right in saying that the BBC generally disapproves of terrorist murder, and it puts on a long face to report it ( as it should). But on this occasion I sensed no moral disapproval at all. Indeed, I noticed an exultant tone, and something similar in the responses of politicians quoted, who more or less stated that this sort of thing would keep on happening until the Assad 'regime' 'stepped down'. How do they know, by the way? Does this tell us anything about the relations of 'The West' with the Syrian Islamist rebels who we are misguidedly supporting,  and who some Sunni Arab states are arming? This came a few days after the BBC had excitedly carried unconfirmed reports of a 'massacre' in Syria which as far as I know has not been shown to have taken place. It was a battle between rebels and government in which some people died, a wholly different thing.

That word 'regime' is also interesting. What makes one government a regime and another a government? It can't be democratic legitimacy, or they would be all the time talking about the Chinese regime, and we never do. Syria, like dozens of countries, traces its political legitimacy back to the day when it ceased to be a colony (in this case, of France). Its recognition, by the UN and most nations,  was not given on condition it was in future governed by Liberal Democrats.  It was the recognised inheritor of the French Empire, itself the inheritor by conquest of the Ottoman Empire. That's as good as it gets in those parts. It was, as is now being quietly forgotten, our welcome ally in the first Gulf War of 1991. I think you get called a regime if the new globalism has set its heart on destabilising you. Increasingly, I worry that if this country ever again got a sovereign independent government,  there'd be a nasty outbreak of violent disorder from some quarter or other,  and the government's reasonable efforts to control it would be distorted by the global networks...you know the rest.

http://hitchensblog.mailonsund...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

by: fairleft @ Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 14:20:48 PM EST



Dear Noom Jr.: Lybian? multipule? (0.00 / 0)

Looking forward to many more in this new comic line.

Really on the warpath, aren't you? How did I ever stumble onto the magic words, "Noom Jr."? (!!) I bet "Socrates Jr." works just as well. Hip Tat in reverse babe!

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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You and LJ may be too far brainwashed to be educable, but others may be capable of learning (0.00 / 0)
and throwing off the shackles of their delusion.

If truth is a "warpath" than you are a paleoconservative pacifist, Pat Buchanan Jr.


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dream on shithead, you can't brainwash everybody (0.00 / 0)


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HAHA@ (0.00 / 0)
You too funny, and highly illustrative of the cookie cutter you fell from...thanks for this.

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You don't know nothing about the cookie I fell from (0.00 / 0)


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Uhhm, yes I do. So do many, many others. More each day. (0.00 / 0)
http://qunfuz.com/2012/07/16/b...

More than you can bear to believe know where you comin frum.

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YU keep posting that retarded link? (0.00 / 0)
I lost braincells reading it the first time.

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Yeah, I know it was far too complicated, difficult reading for your simple mind. Stick w the CT cookie cutters, Missy (0.00 / 0)
You don't have many braincells to lose!

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For the record, my empathetic response to Pat Buchanan, Jr's above comment.: (0.00 / 0)
It's never too late to admit what you are. Laura Johann, also. (0.00 / 0)

From self-knowledge flows all wisdom.

It's no accident that you currently emanate none from your confused pose as a so-called leftist.

Laura Johann. Also.

Paleo conservatives, both. I've noted this fact for years. Children of the Reagan years, aligning left in reaction to the neoconservative Bush years, you simply ended up in the wrong camp due to opportunity and lack of self-perspective.

Truly, I say unto you, as did Marx before me, leftism doesn't result from reaction.

Good to see you slowly catching up with your own reality. You should continue in this vein but stay clear, true and non-perverted in your thinking.

You aren't dumb, but when you start from the wrong place you cannot help but draw the wrong conclusions.

by: donkeytale @ Sat Jul 21, 2012 at 03:19:40 AM EST



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Does your dick get hard when you lie or something? (0.00 / 0)
Blogging is tantric, probably.

What you rightwingers always forget is that the guilt-by-association schtick only works when there's concrete evidence. Well that and a credible storyline.


Talk about forgetting the projection alert! (0.00 / 0)
Here, you are talking entirely about yourself, well, OK, WSWS and Fairleft, too:

What you rightwingers always forget is that the guilt-by-association schtick only works when there's concrete evidence. Well that and a credible storyline



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Rancor is starting to bore me. (5.00 / 1)

Let's reflect how we got into "blogging" in the first place.

What happened to Miss Devore? (2.00 / 1)

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.
by: DavidByron @ Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 13:58:08 PM EST

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Come on kids, you're so close to figuring it all out! (3.00 / 2)

See Seminole County records, and of course the mailbox.
by: melvin @ Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 14:39:10 PM EST

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I assure you (3.00 / 1)
I am not close to figuring anything out.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.
by: DavidByron @ Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 14:48:03 PM EST

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true dat (2.00 / 1)
boot joost remember that ya bloody englanderz, ya fookin britz, ya fish n' chipz wankerz are the most violent, brootal, sadistic, massacring pasty faced rats this world has ever shat out. there's not even a second place, nor a turd or a fort, nor a fift or 6ixt or 7th oor ayfe,,,,

go kik bak wif yer fave drink ya savage fuk - native blood on da rox!

whut random guy woode say
by: noom @ Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 15:44:43 PM EST

http://www.pffugeecamp.com/sho...

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Pore Devore (4.00 / 1)
dont seem to be here any more

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This pretty funny. Scott Solomon, ex-SEPtic member, exposed North as the CEO of a $25 million per year printing business (0.00 / 0)
stating that as a member of SEP/IC had not been informed of this bit of relevant information regarding his Dear Leader.

See here for the links to the evidence:

https://groups.google.com/foru...

Exhibits I, II and III linked to North's website and and others posted by Solomon, including pictures of David "Green," CEO, were all subsequently whitewalled by North or the site owners.

RIOTOUS!


wtf (0.00 / 0)

(Mail Online) July 20, 2012 - 17-year-old shouted 'Allahu Akbar' - Arabic for 'God is Great' - as he unsuccessfully tried to grab the Olympic torch during a stretch of the flame's route through Maidstone towards Redhill.

Broadcast live on the BBC, the youth lunged from the crowd to try to take the torch from the hands of its bearer Anna Skora, but was swiftly bundled away by officers.

In one video posted to YouTube he can be seen waiting behind a car and as Ms Skora gets closer he lunges towards the torch.

Ms Skora was about to hand over the torch to Graham White, a Surrey charity worker, when the teenager burst out of the crowd and tried to grab it.

He managed to get through the line of police officers escorting the torch as it headed through the town.

One of the officers at the back of the group swiftly grabbed hold of Ms Skora and the torch, guiding them to the opposite side of the road.

Four or five of the other torch guards then bundled the man to the side of the road where he was then arrested.

Ms Skora managed to keep the torch upright throughout the ordeal and she continued to smile as she completed her stretch of the Olympic flame relay.

The incident happened as the torch was being taken into Gravesend on Friday morning.



Iranian chickens (0.00 / 0)

So What if People Don't Eat Chicken?

It is attributed to Marie Antoinette that when she was told people in France don't have bread to eat, she had replied 'Let them eat cake' but I  am told there is no evidence she ever said that and the phrase has now become a cliche. Today a new cliche 'so what if they can't eat chicken?' must replace 'Let them eat cake'.

This new masterpiece of a cliche was uttered today by Ayatollah Makrem Shirazi during his sermon in Qom. Posterity will not be able to argue, as in the case of Marie Antoinette, that there is no evidence, for it was all broadcast live on state TV.

In his sermon he told the hapless faithful:
"People should not be so persistent about some matters. For example we see a lot of people ranting on about the soaring price of chicken. Now so what if people don't eat chicken?" and he goes on to justify this by saying "all doctors agree that eating meat products is bad for your health."

The soaring price of chicken which has trebled since the beginning of the Iranian New Year in March, has become a national obsession, even more important to ordinary people than the fluctuating gold and foreign currency prices. Pictures of ordinary people queuing to get the cheaper 'state chicken', occasionally handed out in the streets, is yet another chapter in humiliation of the people of Iran, a rich country which should have been a prosperous place to live for all. People juxtapose their own misery of queuing up for state chickens with that of foreign guests having lavish lunches in "Islamic Awakening" conferences.

The soaring price of chicken is also nothing to do with sanctions, it is pure mismanagement of the economy which has resulted in closure of many hen farms, thus shortening the supplies.

People in the West are probably not so familiar with who Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi is. This reactionary Grand Ayatollah, a staunch supporter of the Supreme Leader of Iran and Bashar Assad of Syria, is a super wealthy businessman himself, who controls the sugar imports to Iran, amongst many other commodities. Makarem Shirazi is also a Holocaust denier. On his official web page, he refers to the Holocaust as superstition:

There is so much more archaic stuff about women, apostasy, dogs and how to deal with the infidel West on his website and in his books.

Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi was also the first Iranian Grand Ayatollah who issued a fatwa and explicitly referred to the Iranian rapper, Shahin Najafi, who lives in Germany, to be killed for apostasy because of the lyrics Najafi used in one of his songs.

But it gets better. Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi, also has his representative office here in UK, in Harrow Road, known as Babul Murad Centre. He also has a registered charity in UK and wait for this one..........He has received a grant from Brent Council for helping with "Religious Freedom and Tolerance" :)))))) Ignorant and lunatic political correctness which is helping to bring down UK to its knees.

http://azarmehr.blogspot.com/

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Iranian Chicken II (0.00 / 0)
A result of mismanagement, corruption and sanctions, it's been brewing for many months. But now some Iranians have taken to the streets to express their frustration with soaring prices.

This is from Neyshabour, in northeastern Iran:

EA WorldView reports that chants included "Shame on these high prices", "Be ashamed Government", and "Leave the people to be free."

In The New Yorker last May, Laura Secor wrote about a visit to Iran, during which she discovered that the regime was far more worried and sensitive about her reporting on the state of the economy than they were about reporting on the political opposition, including the Green movement.

Chicken, a staple of the Iranian diet, has become unaffordable for many people. Reuters reports:

 

Iran's national police chief urged television stations to avoid broadcasting images of people eating chicken, saying such pictures could fire up social tensions, with perhaps unforeseen consequences.

   Certain people witnessing this class gap between the rich and the poor might grab a knife and think they will get their share from the wealthy," Mehr news agency quoted him as saying.

http://hurryupharry.org/2012/0...

yes, the people are unhappy with their mega billionaire theocratic ayafuckwad leaders.

Is The Green Revolution ready to spring again?

Or is The First Chicken Revolution ready to take flight? Ready to start squawking? Ready to batter and fry the Ayafuckwads?

Viva La Chicken Revolucion'!

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Iranian Chicken III (0.00 / 0)
Now Other Ayatollahs Suggest What to Replace Chicken with

It hasn't been long since I wrote the previous post about Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi and his outrageous remark, "so what if people can't eat chicken?". The remark which was made by Brent Council's favourite symbol of religious tolerance, was in reaction to the soaring price of chicken in Iran, which is spiralling out of control, as a direct result of the mismanagement of the economy. More Ayatollahs with their bellies full and their brains drained of active cells have started to join the race in making more condescending remarks about people's inability to buy chicken.

Iranian exiled columnist, Massih Alinejad interviewed Hojatoleslam Shojooni by phone and asked him about the recent protests by the people in Neishabur against the soaring chicken prices. The Don Quixote like cleric rebuked the protests by the people in the birth place of Omar Khayyam by saying "This is not right to march in the streets, one shouldn't act against the regime just because of chicken prices". One wonders what exactly people in Iran can protest against?

Mashad's Friday Prayer Leader, Ayatollah Alamolhoda, with his huge protruding belly, told the faithful in his sermon yesterday "Its not as if you are supposed to have the same living standards as before...if you cant have chicken then replace it with another protein based substitute".

Ayatollah Alamolhoda suggested Ashkane Piaz, a soup dish with fried onions, garlic, potatoes, turmeric, tomato sauce and eggs instead of chicken dishes.

Meanwhile an armed robbery on a chicken farm in Minab, Hormuzgan province, was foiled when the robbers found no chickens in the farm and they fell with their motor bike in a water canal ditch as they fled, because they were unfamiliar to the area.

http://azarmehr.blogspot.com/

yes, the people are unhappy with the mega billionaire, pot bellied, ayafuckwads.

Is The Green Revolution ready to spring again?

Or is The First Chicken Revolution ready to take off? Ready to rAWK-AWK. Ready to roast the Ayafuckwads?

Viva La Chicken Revolucion'!

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Coincidence? You be the judge (3.00 / 2)
We're wondering what has happened to Sana, the Syrian government's news agency. Its website has been down for the last two days. (ed note: Tuesday and Wednesday)

Sana has gone offline several times recently, but never for such a long period. Possibly it has come under a cyber attack, but usually someone claims responsibility for such attacks - and we're not aware of any claims.

Fairleft made his last comment on Monday......

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You Report; We decide (0.00 / 0)
I'm thinking fakey might be Neal Rauhauser. Archived google group posts by Neal_have_that retarded underscore thingie. What's up with that anyway? Who would_do_that?

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I might have just pooped my pants (0.00 / 0)
Good thing I'm a fella, or my panties would be in a bunch. I was on Twitter talking to myself, further proof I don't use sock puppets. Then all of a sudden I was showing up as having no tweets ever. But I think Twitter's down. If I was Ron Brynaert, perhaps I'd be a thinkin maybe I done been hacked.

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While its true you may have gone to the JC digital well one too many times (3.00 / 1)
It was definitely leftist of you to reserve the final useage upon yoirself. Well-plaid, Mr. Brando.

And that Twitter thingie is really going south on you.

It can now be revealed that of your remaining 138 followers, 132 of them are me.

But you and Ron must be doing something right to attract the lovely and talented Gennette Cordova, wtf she is.

Hey now...


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I was doomed from the twit-go (5.00 / 1)
It's like high school in there. You have to suck up to cliques or good luck finding a seat in the cafetaria. You could easily keep building up the numbers, but you'd have to follow back folks you wouldn't break bread with.

Oh my, is that Gennette lovely and talented or what? Hey, you stole my lovely and talented phrase. Just like you stole Breitbart cult. Uhm, er, oops. Mea culpa. Everyboody wake the fook up! Noomie definitely stole that one from me.

Oh well, you taught me that if you can't beat them, join them. That's the life of a political flesh feaster. One can smelt and dealt all one likes, but someone else will take credit when_you're_not_looking.

Building up the number of followers is a racket. I could have about 400 by now if I had bought into the scam. Heck, I could have rounded up a few hundred clams and bought meself 10,000 or even 100,000 of them. Rumour is that's how Brooks Bayne did it. Rauhauser saves money by automating his own supply of fakes.

The internet is insane. You and Capt. Ron think I talk up internet cointelpro too much. Maybe you're right. But astroturf is for real, dude. And it comes in many flavours.

Gennette's a definite sweetie.



[ Parent ]
Gotta love the Ralph Lauren Polo shirt (4.00 / 1)
with the guy's lunch on it.  

[ Parent ]
Hey, no rancor from me (4.00 / 1)
I like you.

It looks like he spilled some wine on his fancy shirt.

That's the girl who Anthony Weiner intended to send his wiener. But what confuses me is how he could have made such a mistake. I am new to Twitter. There's probably an easy explanation.

For myself to send a direct message, I have to drop click to the dm page. What I think happened but am not sure is he had the photo up and someone found it. Weiner thought it was hidden but obviously it wasn't. So say it was Rauhauser or an associate as Dan Wolfe. He suckered Mike Stack to retweet it, when it wasn't actually a tweet.

That would explain why Weiner fudged the idea of a Twitter hack. It would also explain why that was pointless, since it was his photo, and he did have a reputation of being Mr. Flirt.


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I'm watching Das Boot (0.00 / 0)
The movie provides good mileage, like a Super Bowl. Though nothing beats a tidy 80-90 minute flick, imho.

So you're a girl of the 60's and 70's. That's very cool.

I think what truly ruined blogging for youse guys was Daily Kos. You thought it would make a difference. By the time it dawmed on you that the rest of the internet also sucked, the cynicism couldn't get any worse.

Fairleft and Noom are two sides of the same bitter coin. They both make good and stupid points. Rancor is bogus.

Best times I've had were delightful give and take with donkeytale and some kid out of Wales.

I don't understand anyone who takes this shit too seriously. It's too bad every fricken post has to be some kind of political statement like this is a sport and makes some kind of difference. All resistance is futile. We are bricks in the wall.

It was naive to think the internet could be a powerful steering device for positive social change. But we weren't alone. Even some so-called great thinker Jurgen Habermas saw this as having a chance for greatness. He too was wong.

As the great philospher Jim Morrison once said, "I'm gonna get my kicks before the whole shit-house goes up in flames."



[ Parent ]
The Johnny Cash middle finger has been retired (4.00 / 2)
Captain Ron said it was making me look like a 12 year old. I cried a bit, wipe my tears, then said to meself: It's been a good run Johnny, but it's time to move on.

[ Parent ]
Fricken Twitter (4.00 / 1)
I'm now finding it difficult to write posts longer than 140 characters.

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thats funny, I find it difficult to write posts (5.00 / 1)
Shorter than 14,000 characters.

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I had two objectives with the comment (4.00 / 1)
One, I was trying to be funny. Secondly, I wanted to pad your comment count for this diary. Lord knows I love to write and write and so on and so on and so on. I'm talking about blogger David Byron of course. I wouldn't want to take the real Lord's name in vain or upset any atheists in the writing of this post.

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Looking at the Gennette photo (0.00 / 0)
Not only is she easy on the eyes, one could leave their pen or pencil in her cleavage. I find it very annoying to use my ear as a pen holder. Though I'm probably old enough to be her dad. So I probably won't pursue. I only wish Ron would leave her alone. He posts so many stupid things, whenever he gets something right it could still appear wong.  

[ Parent ]
Wake the fook up, everyboody! (0.00 / 0)
Just kidding. It's nearly 3 a.m..



Lenin taking apart the "ultraleftist" dogma on Syria, and even imparting some badly needed remedial leftist training on people who badly need some: (0.00 / 0)
It's never been the case that the Left only liases with forces that are explicitly anticapitalist.  The deciding factor is politics: ie, who is on what side of what divide at any given moment?  Where do we want to situate ourselves in that divide?  Everything else follows from that.

Here, there are two fundamental types of cleavage: the class cleavage and the imperialist cleavage.  Which axis is dominant at any given moment should dictate our approach.  The fact is that in Syria at present, the divide is fundamentally (ie, at base, prior to several crucial mediating factors) one between a ruling class engaged in a process of vicious neoliberal restructuring (Bassam Haddad has added more on this background in MERIP) and a popular movement which is based in the victims of this class offensive.  Anyone who wants to talk about massacres and destruction has to look at who concretely is mainly responsible for the murder in the current situation, and the obvious answer is Assad and the Syrian ruling class: it is they who at the moment are turning parts of Syria into Gaza.  Only secondarily does imperialism impose itself, by attempting to nudge the outcome in one direction or another through infiltration and co-optation.  In such a divide, the starting point for the Left should be to take the side of the popular movements irrespective of whether the dominant ideologies in those movements are congruent with those of revolutionary socialism; the way in which imperialism is opposed in such circumstances (it is axiomatic that it should be opposed) ought to be determined by and bent around that primary agenda.

I havent been too active this week, and probably wont be for awhile.


Seymour makes sense (0.00 / 0)
Too bad the net is filled mostly with jackasses who can't figure anything out or are twisted ideologues with a hidden agenda. I skip 98% of anything written by fairleft or Noom.

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liar (3.00 / 1)
hyaha!@

there's no way in hell yu skip noom, heez only the most entertaining poster in blogging history...

baqaw!

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Seymour hasn't found his fucking marbles yet I see (0.00 / 0)


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Comment at that long-windedly jargon-craptastical lenin posting: (0.00 / 0)

Other than the concluding sentence ["There is no reason at this moment to think that imperialist intervention is, or is going to be, the dominant axis determining the outcome and meaning of this process."], the following is the most revealing: "Nor is there much in Libya's situation today that I can say I would recommend to the people of Syria." That situation produced by Western imperial intervention highjacking righteous street protests in eastern Libya? And what was your position on that in real time?

Really, you have a perfect right to say and your analysis indicates you should say the following: "The situation in Syria is obviously very complex and rife with propaganda, and I have no idea what's going on and in particular whether or not the revolt has been highjacked by bad guys or not." Recommend we read Angry Arab and move on; write about stuff you know about.



For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Lots of good analysis available on Syria (0.00 / 0)

Another place to go is Syria Revolts. The latest there is a respectful corrective to the Yassin-Kassab piece mentioned in Seymour's morass: http://syriarevolts.wordpress....  

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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nice job Bob Costas (0.00 / 0)
Costas told The Hollywood Reporter exclusively of his plans in multiple interviews. And during NBC's broadcast of the July 27 Opening Ceremonies from  London, "For many, tonight, with the world watching, is the true time and place to remember those who were lost, and how and why they died," said Costas as the Israeli delegation entered London's Olympic Stadium.

Bob Costas fulfilled his promise to acknowledge on national television the International Olympic Committee's refusal to honor Israeli athletes and coaches murdered nearly 40 years ago at the 1972 Munich Olympics.

Costas acknowledged what has become known as the Munich Massacre.

"The Israeli athletes now enter behind their flag-bearer Shahar Zubari," said Costas. "These games mark the 40th anniversary of the 1972 tragedy in Munich, when 11 Israeli coaches and athletes were murdered by Palestinian terrorists. There have been calls from a number of quarters for the IOC to acknowledge that, with a moment of silence at some point in tonight's ceremony. The IOC denied that request, noting it had honored the victims on other occasions. And, in fact, this week [IOC president] Jacques Rogge led a moment of silence before about 100 people in the athlete's village. Still, for many, tonight, with the world watching, is the true time and place to remember those who were lost, and how and why they died."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.c...

yeah and the duplicitous pal Arab imperialist authority disgustingly patted the IOC on the back calling any acknowledgement of their barbaric crimes racsim.

"sports are meant for peace, not for racism... Sports are a bridge to love, interconnection, and spreading of peace among nations; it must not be a cause of division and spreading of racism"

Jibril Rajoub, the Palestinian Arab Imperialist Authority Minister for Sport

http://hurryupharry.org/2012/0...

how malicious is that? nothing about regret and the need to work together to live in peace. Nope. Somehow acknowledging their massacre of Jewish olympic atheletes is racist!

What madness.

Killing Israelis civilians is not racism, remembering their murder is. It's the logic of fucking Jew-haters.

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in a related olympic note (0.00 / 0)

Lebanese Olympic judo team refuses to practice next to Israelis

Hosts accept coach's demand, and separate the teams with makeshift barrier

The Lebanese judo team at the 2012 London Olympics refused to practice next to the Israeli one on Friday afternoon, and a makeshift barrier was erected to split their gym into two halves.

According to several Hebrew sports sites, the two teams were scheduled to use the same gym and mats at London's new ExCeL center for their final preparations. However, the delegation from Lebanon would not train in view of the Israeli team, and insisted some sort of barrier be placed between them.

Organizers accepted the Lebanese coach's demand to separate the teams, erecting a barrier so that the Lebanese team wouldn't see the Israeli one.

The incident was the first political one between Israel and other countries during the 2012 Games, which don't formally get under way until Friday evening's opening ceremony. It happened only days after the Iranian delegation head stated his nation's athletes would compete with Israelis, a statement which was quickly rejected by Tehran, which tried to suggest that his true sentiment was lost in translation.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/l...

What we have here is a double pile of stinking shite.

Arab racism rears its ugly head at the olympics, and the spineless English give in to their ugly demands instead of telling the Lebanese team to walk.

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uber leftist boolshite (0.00 / 0)
This is typical.

Uber leftist dullard, inantalya, who's got the brain of an ant, tries to hijack Clay Claiborne's diary covering the massacre currently underway in Aleppo, Syria. And this ant brain gets called out for it.

While in Saudi Arabia ... (3+ / 0-)

Saudi security forces are 'dealing with' (read arresting, shooting and killing) protesters.

   Saudi security forces have opened fire on Shia protesters in the Qatif district of Eastern Province, wounding several of them as hundreds marched to demand the release of detainees, witnesses said.

   Live rounds fired by anti-riot police injured a number of protesters who took to the streets in the early hours on Friday, the witnesses said, without specifying a figure.

   The interior ministry said security forces dealt with "rioters who burned tyres" in parts of Qatif, arresting several people, including Mohammed al-Shakhuri, whose name was on a list of 23 wanted people.

   ...

   In recent days, confrontations have intensified between police and protesters from the kingdom's Shia minority, estimated at about two million and mostly concentrated in the oil-rich Eastern Province.

   Two Shia protesters were killed earlier this month, triggering attacks on government buildings in Qatif. The district witnessed a spate of protests after an outbreak of violence between Shia pilgrims and religious police in the Muslim holy city of Medina in February last year.

But that doesn't matter for some, because the Saudi royal family is one of 'our' favorite dictators, despots and kings, and the Shia are, after all, on 'our' bad list.

Maybe if there were tweets or twitters or youtubes someone would care.

Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

by InAntalya on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 07:52:54 AM PDT

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    People are being massacred in Syria today (0+ / 0-)

   why do you want to redirect our attention to Saudi Arabia?

   How is that a comment on this diary?

   Hundreds of people were murdered by their government in Syria yesterday, hundreds more will be murdered there today. How many will be murdered by the Kingdom today?

   How this not SPAMMING my diary to talk about what you want to talk about.

   Why don't you go and write a diary about repression in S.A.

   Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

   by Clay Claiborne on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 08:33:23 AM PDT

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        Your whole premise, (4+ / 0-)

       which you have stated multiple times, is that the Syrian government has to be overthrown because the current situation grew out of the Syrian government's repression of protests in spring 2011.

       Are you going to apply that same conclusion to SA?

       This post is about protests against a regime in the Middle East, as is my comment. That is not spamming.

       I think you need to learn a little more about how Daily Kos works, especially the part about your not being in the position to decide what is or isn't relevant to your post.

       And my next posts will be about background information about Syria, a subject about which I know a great deal.

       Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

       by InAntalya on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 08:55:05 AM PDT

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            I am quite angry with you. (0+ / 0-)

           You could have taken that Al Jazeera bulletin and made a nice Daily Kos diary out of it, that would have highlighted the repression that goes on in Saudi Arabia. You could have put the headline "Saudi protester injured by the King's gunmen" or something similar on the frontpage of DKos. You didn't think to do that?  If you really were about exposing the Kingdom, you would have used it that way instead of burying it in a comment in my diary, but you didn't. Why?

           Because that is not your mission!

           Defending the murderous Assad regime is. Better to squirrel away that Saudi story from AJ this morning and use it in an attempt to redirect discussion in my diary. That's what you thought!

           On a day when so many are dying at the hands of the Assad regime, I find that absolutely disgusting.

           Maybe you need another [RED PILL] Hear the screams of a child that had his leg blown off by one of Assad's shells in Aleppo. Look upon his face because I doubt that child will live to see Sunday, and then explain to me again why we should be discussing Saudi repression today.

           Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

           by Clay Claiborne on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 10:25:49 AM PDT

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                You are completely out of line. (2+ / 0-)

               I don't care if you are angry or disgusted, and you don't know what I think.

               But your personal attacks on those who don't toe your line is a serious violation of Daily Kos rules and reeks of dictatorial behavior.

               Your behavior towards those who don't do what you want or don't completely agree with you seems to be similar to what you accuse Assad of doing.

               From your comment it seems that the number of dead in Saudi Arabia hasn't reached a level high enough for you to care about, or is it just that they don't matter to you because they are Shia?

               I know a lot more about Syria than you do. I have been to the border many times. I have seen the people who have come to Turkey from Syria and live in camps. I have talked to these people. I have seen them come into Turkey and return to Syria. I have direct contact with people in Syria.

               And you? You have twitter and youtube.

               I don't chase sensation. I try to objectively inform.

               Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

               by InAntalya on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 11:12:05 AM PDT

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note the arrogance of this uber leftist dipshit who claims to know more about Syria than Clay Claiborne. After reading plenty of meager insights from this poster, it's clear Ant Brain has been to the Syrian border to drop a few turds, that's about it.

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Balanced Aleppo reporting is available! (0.00 / 0)

In balanced reporting you read both sides' characterization of events, or even better an independent voice alongside the imperial propaganda. Such reporting looks like this:

­Mainstream media outlets report the Syrian regime is gearing for a "massacre," as it launches deadly ground and air attacks on rebels.

According to AP, military helicopters pounded the city early Saturday morning, in an effort to clear the area of anti-Assad forces once and for all.

"Helicopters are participating in clashes at the entrance of Salaheddine district and bombarding it. There are also violent clashes at the entrances to Sakhour district," the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told Reuters.

But others say the clashes began after rebels attacked government buildings in the area.

Sarkis Kassargian, a reporter for Al-Khabar TV, told RT,"Last night, rebels attacked government buildings and police and intelligence centers in Aleppo. But they didn't succeed to control any of those places. Attacks and clashes then occurred, but the Syrian army was acting in defense."

Three rebel fighters were killed in the fighting on Saturday, and 160 were killed on Friday, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

But Kassargian says those deaths were due to the rebels' own actions.  

"Any deaths that took place would have been a result of the rebels' attacking government buildings in the region," says Kassargian.

It is a far cry from mainstream media reports, which say government troops attacked rebel forces without provocation.

He says rebel forces have now taken control of the neighborhoods of Al Hadi and Al Saher.

While mainstream media reports that residents of Aleppo are fleeing the city in droves, RT's source maintains this is not the case.

"Right now, there is no movement from government forces. Some families and residents in Aleppo are leaving the city, but most people are just moving to safer areas within the area, such as a local school and university. The Red Cross is standing by to help those seeking shelter," Kassargian said.

http://www.rt.com/news/syria-a...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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"Balanced Reporting" to you = Putin News Channel throwing you a lifeline, or so you wish to deceive yourself (0.00 / 0)
The rebels have been attacking the government's positions in Aleppo for at least a week now...far better for you to ditch the neoliberal Putin Press for some real historical background on the armed struggle in Syria, that is truly balanced, as well as leftist:

http://www.isj.org.uk/index.ph...

In the mid-1980s the regime responded to poor economic growth and declining foreign investment by slashing wages, benefits and subsidies on everyday goods. The result was a reversal of the gains made in the preceding period so that by the mid-1990s 70 percent of the population were living below the relative poverty line.22 The passing of Investment Law Number 10 in 1991 opened up new areas of the economy to private capital.23 By the mid-1990s Volker Perthes could write that "an upper class has emerged both greater in number and wealthier than the bourgeoisie of the pre-Ba'athist era".24

This was the situation when Bashar al-Assad came to power in 2000 following his father's death. Bashar went even further in opening up the economy to private capital, cutting back the social functions of the state and relying increasingly on its repressive functions. The historic "social pact" underpinning Ba'athist state capitalist rule since the 1960s was significantly weakened. It is this context which is vital for understanding the roots of the 2011 uprising and why it spread so quickly and has proved so difficult to crush.

The social roots of the 2011 uprising

Bashar's neoliberal reforms occurred at the same time as a number of important events effecting Syrian society. Perhaps the most significant of these was the drought of 2008-10, which caused tens of thousands of peasants to flee to the cities.25 Around the same time thousands of Syrians working abroad who sent remittances back to their families returned following the Syrian withdrawal from Lebanon in 2005 and the Dubai financial crisis in 2008. Further to this was the arrival of 1.5 million Iraqi refugees following the 2003 invasion by the US and Britain. These groups sought work and housing largely in the impoverished peripheries of the cities.26 It is these areas that have been the main centres of urban opposition during the 2011 uprising.

The impact of these events was intensified by the neoliberal reforms. The effect of the drought was made worse by the privatisation of state lands in 2000, which led to an increase in peasant evictions and intensive commercial farming which depleted the water table.27 The state-controlled Agricultural Workers Union pointed to subsidy cuts to fuel and the abolition of price controls on pesticides and animal feed as further causes of rural distress.28 In the cities the abolition of rent controls and an influx of Gulf investment in real estate made it increasingly difficult to obtain affordable housing.29 Reductions in import tariffs put many small manufacturers out of business, contributing to already high unemployment rates, particularly among the young. Wages declined in relative terms, following subsidy cuts and inflation, with 61 percent of workers earning less than $190 a month in 2010.30 Other reforms, such as cutting corporation tax, further increased the surge in wealth for the rich.31 In contrast to Egypt, where there was wholesale privatisation of sections of the economy and opening up to global capital, neoliberal reform in Syria often involved alliances between private capital and the state, an undermining of social provision and workers' conditions within the state sector and strengthening ties to regional capital. So in the World Bank's measurement of how open economies are to foreign capital Syria is ranked very low compared to Egypt, but in the measurement for "labour flexibility"-the extent of control bosses have over workers-the two countries are much closer.32 Across society, forms of social provision which workers had come to expect were undermined. In health and education creeping privatisation and the introduction of charges created a two-tier system with exclusive universities and hospitals for the rich.33

The impact of these reforms on Syrian society was profound. By the mid-2000s the World Bank's index of inequality placed Syria lower than Egypt.34 As the Syrian economist Samar Seifan puts it, "Syria used to have a social pyramid characterised by a wide base, a big middle stratum and a low peak; under economic reform, the middle stratum are shrinking while a rich stratum is emerging at the top, resulting in a social pyramid with a broad base, a narrowing middle stratum and a higher peak".35



[ Parent ]
Look at the reporting and tell me how it is not balanced. (0.00 / 0)

Don't just rely on labels you've been programmed with by the mainstream media. Read and think on your own.

But I see as usual you've changed the subject. If you think a U.S.-sponsored invasion and takeover of Syria will lead to a reversal of Assad's neoliberal moves, you're a moron.

Syria's best hope is for the disempowerment of the both the Qatar/Saudi/U.S. armed forces and Syrian armed forces. A civil war between them, of course, only increases the power of the most reactionary elements within and outside the current regime. Negotiations, freedom of speech and press, and elections are the best chance for bringing the people and their desires into Syria's future. Of course the preceding is exactly what the U.S. and its Arab puppets will try their best to prevent.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
This goes without saying, nicely platitudinous. As usual. Idealism is great when you live a charmed life in the US. (0.00 / 0)
Syria's best hope is for the disempowerment of the both the Qatar/Saudi/U.S. armed forces and Syrian armed forces. A civil war between them, of course, only increases the power of the most reactionary elements within and outside the current regime. Negotiations, freedom of speech and press, and elections are the best chance for bringing the people and their desires into Syria's future. Of course the preceding is exactly what the U.S. and its Arab puppets will try their best to prevent.

Do you honestly believe Assad will allow these institutions to develop?

Why didn't he already do so before he started waging war against the peaceful demonstrators in early 2011.

Where have you been the last year and a half?

The last 40 years?

Ostrich Syndrome.

Its. Too. Late.

For nice platitudes. Annan plan failed. Annan blamed Assad for that failure. With the greater power comes greater responsibility to rule wisely. Assad failed. Badly.

You, of course, as an Assad apologist, now trying to row furiously down some middle of the stream confection, will se it differently.


[ Parent ]
So no answer for 'how is it not balanced?' And another change of subject. (0.00 / 0)


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

[ Parent ]
"As Syrian War Drags On, Jihadists Take Bigger Role" (0.00 / 0)

Oops, more static for your narrative.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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Not at all. No one has ever denied that extremists have gotten inside Syria. (5.00 / 1)
As in Iraq and Lybia.

As it is, I see that the Opposition itself is playing up the "terrorist" participation.

If you were intelligently analysing the statements (which have a strategic goal)you might surmise the opposition is playing up the West's fear of "terrorists" as a ploy to induce the UN meaningfully into the field.

The longer the war goes on, obviously, the more "terrorists" find their way into the battle field.

D'uh. The oppo is saying to the UN, if you want to nip this in the bud, then create a no-fly zone, limit the ability of the Government to terrorise its own cities and displace its own people, and arm us with effective weapons to take on tanks, jets and helicopter gunships.

This is all strategical, but you aren't thinking. You're reacting. You've already lost the rhetorical battle.

You read literally when it suits your purposes, you read the MSM when it suits your purposes, and you make up any fanciful conclusion from whatever dubious, slanted "sources" (usually restricted to two of the worst: Angry Californian since 1983! and Pepe "Infowars" Escobar) you can hallucinate when it suits your purposes. Bullshit from bullshit artists who arent anywhere near whats going on.

The fact is:

Your argument is consistent only in that its conservative, favouring the dictatorial status quo, regime loving and against the people.

Unless the regime is favoured by the US/West.


[ Parent ]
And as well, the fact remains, contrary to all FakeLeft BS, Obama hasnt invaded (0.00 / 0)
hasnt created a no fly zone and hasnt provided the heavy weapons.

Assad is getting his ass kicked and deserves to get his ass kicked.

There's no defending what he has wrought on his country, including the conditions that bring in the "terrorists" or perhaps even bringing in the terrorists themselves, rather than realising his time is up and going quietly with his wife and kids to the nice Russian Dacha awaiting his abdication.


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And what fairleft b.s. is that? Can't find any? Hmm. (0.00 / 0)

Who are you arguing with? Who says the Syrian govt forces don't deserve to get their asses kicked? And who is defending what the Syrian govt is doing? Who? Show us the quotes moron or stfu.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

[ Parent ]
That's rich irony, you calling donkeytale a moron (0.00 / 0)
You're the dumbass who has supported both Huey Long and the Iranian theocracy. You're the fake lefty who'd fit in all nice and snuggly at Prison Planet and quite often at Stormfront. You're the dude passing out pro-Stalin pamphlets at airports. I guess it's better than the days you were probably out of your head on crystal meth.

[ Parent ]
Any Syria specifics? No. More changing the subject? Yes (0.00 / 0)

Donkeytale Jr.!

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

[ Parent ]
the Syrian rebels (0.00 / 0)
once again arm themselves with Assad's weapons.....

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btw - note the caption on the screenshot. When is your boy Putin gonna free Pussy Riot?

MOSCOW, July 30 (Reuters) - Three members of a Russian female punk band went on trial on Monday, facing up to seven years in jail for protesting against Vladimir Putin inside a Moscow cathedral, a prosecution they said was aimed at spreading fear and silencing dissent.

The trial of the women from the band "Pussy Riot" is being seen as a test of the longtime leader's tolerance of opposition at the start of his third presidential term.

http://in.reuters.com/article/...

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[ Parent ]
You can't escspe, looser. You've spent the last year and a half in rote repetition (4.00 / 1)
of Assad's propaganda and Qadaffy's before that.

This is textbook definition of regime support.

You are following other regime supporters Pepe (Infowars) Escobar and The Angry Arab (US resident since 1983!).

Now, its good that you are finally starting to walk back your support by claiming you never said "I support Assad."

Its only in your black/white simplemindedness that you can hold onto such fairy tale beliefs. But the record of your cheerleading for Assad by aping his own propaganda is lengthy and persuasive, as is your lack of prescience regarding, well, the rebellious events in Libya and syria where you have both criticised the rebels and supported the neoliberal nationalist bourgeois governments to the bitter end and beyond. Here are two grabbed in two seconds of googling. There are hundreds more where this tripe originates (mostly Angry Arab, Ecobar, Infowars, SANA):

Exactly! Conforming to protester demands now, more than nine months after they started protesting, what's the point?! There obviously was an implied deadline on the demands -- why the Syrian government didn't know that I don't know --  and now that it has passed, well, unfortunately the country must endure a ten-year-or-so civil war with lots of unfortunate religious cleansing, impoverishing Western sanctions, and so on. And all the government's fault for not meeting that deadline! Too little too late, sorry 'bout that peacenik morons!

We can be sure enough Syria is a Western/Gulf/Israel regime overthrow effort that, if it is not stopped by 2012 Nobel Peace Prize Winner Putin (he is going to win, right?), will produce tens of thousands of dead, massive ethnic cleansing, long-term chaos, and much economic destruction to a country that is not at all wealthy. (Since I'm obviously not, you devolve the discourse back to the screaching ape level when you pretend I'm "excusing" the Assad government for its nastiness. But, carry on ... here's a banana.)

Libya is devolving exactly as all of us who saw it as basically a cross-regional civil war, Benghazi v Tripoli, exploited and taken over by Western imperialism, thought it would. Tens of thousands of dead and economic devastation, and the reward? Rule by warlords with no obvious solution to that anywhere in sight, weak government vis a vis international oil firms, and therefore bigger profits for those firms. In contrast to you, I early on wanted an end to the hostilities and national dialogue and compromise. Oh well, better luck the third time (looks like you're supporting the violence and chaos side again in Syria).

Any misgivings about supporting the anti-Gadhafi, pro-NATO rebellion?

So much for Fairleft "fairness", not to mention lack of prescience...totally pawnd on both Libya and Syria... yes, I'm supporting the "violence and chaos" side (of the people fighting back against a corrupt brutal dicktater!) while you claim not to be supporting the corrupt brutal dick tater?

Your supposed neutrality is not persuasive, based on your words and attitudes...and worse, its meaningful only in that your neutrality supports the status quo, which is the continuing reign of a corrupt and brutal dick tater waging war against his own people.



[ Parent ]
"Since I'm obviously not, you devolve the discourse back to the screaching ape level when you pretend I'm "excusing" the Assad government for its nastiness. But, carry on ... here's a banana." (0.00 / 0)

Okay, I'll be more specific, because it is a fact that I support any side that supports negotiations, ceasefires, and peace. And those sides were the Syrian government and the internal peaceful opposition.

Other than giving thumbs up to peace moves by the Syrian govt, where have I said I support the Syrian government nastiness: killing civilians, firing on innocent protestors, or engaging in torture or any of its other longstanding anti-democratic and anti-human rights policies? Nowhere.

Yes, I strongly support the efforts by Lavrov and Putin to generate a peaceful, negotiated settlement to the conflict. You and your media support the alternative path, the death and destruction going on inside the country.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
Thumbs up to peace moves by the Syrian Govt? (0.00 / 0)
What peace moves? Can you describe those intiatives in detail? Was the wholesale bombing and annihilation of Baba Amr a peace move?

Was it the negotiation by army snipers and militia firing on peaceful crowds throughout the country during the period when peaceful negotiations were still possible?

Blaming the victims for fighting back and against an illegitimate govt is supporting Assad.  

You own your support for the Assad govt just as much as Putin and Lavrov do. At least they are honest enough to admit their support, while you continue to weasel. Its fun to read yur udder bullshite.  


[ Parent ]
Here's the bananapeel for you to slip on, FarRight...all the way back in March (0.00 / 0)
Abandoning a revolutionary perspective

The position taken by the Communist Party of Canada (CPC), like so many so-called Communists Fake Leftists around the world, in the midst of the current revolution is that the Assad regime is "objectively anti-imperialist", that should, however, enact certain pro-worker reforms. This is an absurd position, which is abstract at best. Assad is clearly carrying out a brutal counter-revolution, and the CPCFake Left is asking the counter-revolution to carry out pro-worker reforms. It is precisely the Assad regime that has carried out the anti-working class reforms and liberalization process, and reversed many of the historic gains won by the toiling masses in Syria. To create illusions that Assad would carry out such reforms is at best to confuse the people.

To make such a demand for Assad to carry out reforms in the current context means precisely siding with the counter-revolution. Hundreds of Syrians are being killed every day in the midst of this revolutionary struggle. For Assad to carry out the reforms asked by the CPC Fake Left, it must first crush the mass movement. No matter how much this position is prettified, Assad is carrying out counter-revolutionary mass murder, and the CPC Fake Left is supporting him.

Truly balanced analysis available here:

http://www.marxist.com/in-defe...

http://www.marxist.com/in-defe...


[ Parent ]
Figure it out, FarRight... (0.00 / 0)
when Seymour and an entire range of Marxists are clearly pointing out you that your thinking and writing is reactionary....its true, whether you think you can hide behind yur phony grade school-level literalist argument and play pretend like a petulant child or not...RIOTOUS!

Some "Leftists" defend the counter-revolution

It is an unfortunate fact that some organizations, which claim to be "leftist", have adopted a position mirroring the propaganda of the Assad regime where the revolutionary movements are presented as an "imperialist conspiracy" or an "Islamic take-over". Some groups have even described the Free Syrian Army (FSA) as being merely a band of thugs. Once one abandons a Marxist perspective in analysing the processes taking place in Syria, it is not surprising that such distorted analysis can take place. It must be bluntly said that those who take such a position are concretely taking the side of counter-revolution.

http://www.marxist.com/in-defe...


[ Parent ]
I read your three posts (0.00 / 0)
You make a lot of good points. I actually read the NY Times article this time. It's not that I couldn't figure this shite out, it's that the people posting here suck. I don't get who the fuck fairleft thinks he's fooling. He writes like a cartoon character. Not believable. He's not true left for thought. The Frankfurt School would have pointed his ilk out for a manufactured idiot by the culture industry. I think he and the others are the result of heavy drugs. I just stuck to weed. Weed is good. Weed is the one thing that can save the world. And to see Laura kissing his ass all these years is ridiculous. Like she can't think for herself, and instead of trying, she selected Gilligan to be Skipper.

[ Parent ]
For a year at least a major facet of the rebellion has been the sectarianism. (0.00 / 0)

There would be zero help for the rebels by their main funders and helpers -- Saudi, Qatar, and Turkey -- if that were not the case. It is not some 'the longer this goes on the more they sneak in' deal. Sunni jihadists have been involved for at least the last year; it matters that they are the only rebels that Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the main funders of the rebellion, want to fund.

Latest balanced news on this:

Radical Islamists with "British accents" are among the coalition forces looking to topple Bashar Assad, says Jeroen Oerlemans, a photographer who was held hostage in Syria for a week. The UK Foreign Office has launched an investigation.

Oerlemans, a famous Dutch photo journalist, and John Cantlie, another photographer from the UK, were captured by a group of between 30 and 100 anti-Assad fighters when crossing the Syrian border from Turkey last week. They were then blindfolded.

"One of the black jihadists freaked out and shouted: 'These are journalists and now they will see we are preparing an international jihad in this place.'" Oerlemans told NRC Handelsblatt newspaper. He said that none of the fighters was Syrian.

... If it is confirmed, Oerleman's story will add to reports that Syria has become a magnet for radical Islamists, who are there either as mercenaries or because of ideology.

"As soon as Assad has fallen, these fighters want to introduce Islamic law, Sharia, in Syria," said Oerlemans.

http://www.rt.com/news/british...

More news you simply won't find in your media, donk. Think about why that is.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
For a year at least a major facet of the rebellion has been the sectarianism. (0.00 / 0)

There would be zero help for the rebels by their main funders and helpers -- Saudi, Qatar, and Turkey -- if that were not the case. It is not some 'the longer this goes on the more they sneak in' deal. Sunni jihadists have been involved for at least the last year; it matters that they are the only rebels that Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the main funders of the rebellion, want to fund.

Latest balanced news on this:

Radical Islamists with "British accents" are among the coalition forces looking to topple Bashar Assad, says Jeroen Oerlemans, a photographer who was held hostage in Syria for a week. The UK Foreign Office has launched an investigation.

Oerlemans, a famous Dutch photo journalist, and John Cantlie, another photographer from the UK, were captured by a group of between 30 and 100 anti-Assad fighters when crossing the Syrian border from Turkey last week. They were then blindfolded.

"One of the black jihadists freaked out and shouted: 'These are journalists and now they will see we are preparing an international jihad in this place.'" Oerlemans told NRC Handelsblatt newspaper. He said that none of the fighters was Syrian.

... If it is confirmed, Oerleman's story will add to reports that Syria has become a magnet for radical Islamists, who are there either as mercenaries or because of ideology.

"As soon as Assad has fallen, these fighters want to introduce Islamic law, Sharia, in Syria," said Oerlemans.

http://www.rt.com/news/british...

More news you simply won't find in your media, donk. Think about why that is.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
yawn, its smart of you to now turn awasy from your pro-Assad propaganda routine (0.00 / 0)
after its been thoroughly discredited and you again show yourself to be the worst sort of hack, IE a rote repeater of other hack propaganda messages.

But then you make the mistake of trying to turn the Syrian struggle against a brutal sectarian dictator into (yet another) media critique.

Sectarianism never mentioned in "my media"?

RIOTOUS!

From, uhhhm, me, in uhhhm, February. No Fairleft, there is no statute of limitations on your intellectual limitations or your dishonesty. It is hard to tell which is which, but I always give you the benefit of the doubt and characterise you as willfully stupid and venal, rather than dishonest.

Its all the same to me.

http://www.pffugeecamp.com/sho...

From Jaddaliya, in a perfectly stated indictment of the Fairleft Ostrich Syndrome, which you are still trying to portray 6 months later, with the same unchanging still bunk-filled lies:

These media games are designed to portray Syria as a land of confusion, where the truth is elusive, undefined, impossible to verify, and impossible to know. But even a subject as ugly and divisive as sectarianism can be treated in a sensitive and honest way, like in two of Anthony Shadid's recent articles {ed note: appeared in the NY Times during January, 2012], released back-to-back. The first examines the current sectarian rifts in Homs, and the second is a historical account of the Arab Christian experience, bleakly offering a warning and a lesson. Shadid serves grim reality alongside hope grounded in history. He, is not afraid to "speak truth to the people" as Rosen says. But this truth (and proof) of rising sectarianism comes after months well-rounded reporting, thus legitimizes the source and the the story. So here is the truth: it should not be disputed that the Alawites have suffered a brutal history of abuse and atrocities in pre-Assad Syria; that there are sectarian rifts in the society (although heavily propagated by the regime); that there is an armed element to the uprisings; that supporters of the regime do exist and not every pro-regime demonstrator was threatened, bussed in, or paid to wave the flag. It is wrong (and not smart) for the opposition to deny any of these facts. It is also true that both sides are afraid, but there is a significant difference: one side is afraid of an uncertain future, and the other is afraid it will not survive another day in the present.


[ Parent ]
Any specific 'pro-Assad' fairleft propaganda? No. Changing the subject again? Yes. (0.00 / 0)

Did you find that specific story in your mainstream media? No. Okay, do this moron: google "Jeroen Oerlemans." Note no mainstream headline is anything close to "Jihadists with "British accents" fighting Syria's Assad." See, that's how you learn how the mainstream media doesn't cover the news.

By the way, your supposedly independent source extravagantly praises the NY Times for its coverage of the Syria rebellion. Do you agree?

This source also writes of Syria's "rising sectarianism." This is a tired propaganda ploy: "Oh, how were we to know a year ago, suddenly there's all this sectarianism! Sorry Syria, can't stop it now. Darn, wish we'd known there'd be 'rising sectarianism' back in the good old days a year ago!"

Reality: sectarianism has been a major element of the opposition for at least a year, and obviously the flood of Qatari/Saudi money is doing its best to go to explicitly sectarian forces. Duh.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
pff (0.00 / 0)
Any specific 'pro-Assad' fairleft propaganda?

uh yeah, when you bizarrely lied about how many attended a pro Assad rally. remember that one fairfraud?

and this shite from this very thread:

Okay, I'll be more specific, because it is a fact that I support any side that supports negotiations, ceasefires, and peace. And those sides were the Syrian government and the internal peaceful opposition.

man that's a turd.

here's anutter: When the notion of Syrian elections came up with Assad running for president.....

They will vote him out in 2014 &/or 2021 if they don't want him. (2.00 / 1)

Missing from your standard corporate propaganda/media narrative.

Also missing from the standard propaganda narrative, of course, is that 55% of Syrians in a recent poll (by the Qataris, I think) said they want to keep Assad as their president.

Yeah, a lotta stuff doesn't fit the 'no compromise, kill 'em all' narrative the corporate propaganda must push.

by: fairleft @ Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 10:19:03 AM EST

Thanks for this, looser. Let me know when you see a free, fair election in Syria, or Iran for that matter.....

by: donkeytale @ Fri Mar 02, 2012 at 13:29:31 PM EST

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That's a seriously embarrassing post.

And the way you've distorted that poll, whose origin you're not even sure of, is pure pro Assad propaganda as is the notion that compromise was possible with Assad at that time after all the massacres and torture chambers.

The protestors are supposed to put their trust in a butcher and his infamously sadistic security forces that, all will be well!

Assad: "Just put down your weapons and come home! Listen to your "president" of 14 more years. Don't even think that we're going to come get you in the middle of the night and drag you to the torture chambers! We won't, promise!" ....

by: fake noom @ Thu Mar 01, 2012 at 17:09:55 PM EST

http://www.pffugeecamp.com/sho...

farcical fairfraud falls on his face!

boom!

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[ Parent ]
The poll is real & accurate but with a small sample size as I said the first time I mentioned it; whether the elections could be honest and fair should be tested not rejected out of hand. (0.00 / 0)

As I said during the last imperial overthrow move, we have the oppressive Syrian govt where we want it, and I imagine they would agree to strict and excellent internationally observed elections. There are strong signals (coming from the speaker of the Iran parliament) right now that Syria would accept such elections.

And, in fact -- TRACK RECORD -- while Western propaganda whined and ridiculed it also provided no evidence that the elections held in February and May were unfairly conducted.

Anyway, negotiations are how you create peace, and they're how you create peaceful regime change, or a continuation of a regime that wins a democratic election. Elections rather than war are how you get a govt that represents the people.

Negotiations and real ceasefires are also how you save innocent lives.

But by real ceasefire I don't mean the one in May, where the govt withdrew from towns and cities and this is all that happened:

Seize the ceasefire: Syrian rebels bask in new guns

Published: 16 May, 2012, 13:57

http://www.rt.com/news/syria-c...
But, of course the fundamental stance of U.S. govt overthrow propaganda is that negotiations are impossible with the leadership of the targeted country, and elections are impossible as long as the targeted leadership is in power, so the U.S. 'has to' have a war and kill thousands of people and overthrow the targeted govt. NEVER any testing of the possibility that negotiations might work or that internationally supervised elections are a reasonable possibility.

The U.S. never negotiates with imperial targets, it overthrows, for the obvious reasons.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
hyaha!@ (5.00 / 1)
Also missing from the standard propaganda narrative, of course, is that 55% of Syrians in a recent poll (by the Qataris, I think) said they want to keep Assad as their president.

-fairfraud

the real story:

Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war - a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders. What is less good news for the Assad regime is that the poll also found that half the Syrians who accept him staying in power believe he must usher in free elections in the near future. Assad claims he is about to do that, a point he has repeated in his latest speeches. But it is vital that he publishes the election law as soon as possible, permits political parties and makes a commitment to allow independent monitors to watch the poll.

-sure right

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm...

ok. time for some basic extrapolation of this poll whose methodology is a total mystery.

We've got 45% agen Assad. 27.5% (half of 55%) only want him to stay so the country won't explode and they can vote him out of office. They're hoping and praying for a peaceful transition of power. Makes sense. So we've got 72.5% against Assad straight away.

But let's say of the remaining 27.5% a minimum of half were shitting bricks that they'd better answer the question "right" or Assad's steroid juiced Shabiha death squads would be knocking on their door ready to hack them to pieces.

So doing the math: 72.5% plus 13.75% equals 86.25% oppose Assad.

That leaves Assad with a grand total of 13.75% support.

qaw qaw qaw

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Next fairfail proclaims that Iran, that bastion of civil rights and free and fair elections, supports uh, free and fair elections in Syria. This has to be parody.

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's parliamentary speaker is proposing Syria hold presidential elections as a way to end the civil war between Syrian rebels and the regime of key Tehran ally President Bashar Assad.

Such a plan is almost certainly to be rejected by many opposition factions and would be nearly impossible to stage under the current level of violence. But it suggests Iran recognizes the growing pressures on Assad's regime and is seeking ways to preserve a pro-Iranian leadership in Damascus.

Ali Larijani told Iran's state-run Arabic language Al-Alam TV on Monday that presidential elections in Syria could be held while planning future parliamentary elections. He said fighting in Damascus and elsewhere has blocked an attempt to organize voting.

Larijani claims Assad's government backs the idea.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

So yeah, the Iranian regime - led by theocratic nutjob dictators - which holds corrupt, farcical, screened candidate elections, are calling for Syrian elections which they would try to, of curse, manipulate to their own imperialist advantage. Hell, if anyone knows how to hold fraudulent elections, then get some uber leftist aholes to propagandize on their legitimacy, itz the Iranians. But I gather the iranians know there won't be elections as long as Assad remains, they're just trying to send a conciliatory message to the Syrian people, trying to look reasonable because come the post Assad era, the Syrian people will have many grudges against Ajad and the Ayatyrants.

But good source there fairgoneoffthedeepend - Iran's speaker of the madhouse!

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and fairwinkle, eye notice you managed to avoid answering for this calumny:

   
Any specific 'pro-Assad' fairleft propaganda?

uh yeah, when you bizarrely lied about how many attended a pro Assad rally. remember that one fairfraud?

eye note there's been no attempts to weasel out of that one. It's so black and white. You can't dance around it. It was done on your initiative alone, there's no angry arab ahole for you to parrot, no RT shite to bail you out. You can't wave your hands and kick up dust on that one and I note you havn't even tried.

That's the irrefutable dagger driven into your stinking pile of uber leftist boolshite.

Obvious conclusion: You support Assad.

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[ Parent ]
That's pure holiness from Noom (0.00 / 0)
Fairleft is a lying sack of shit.

I completely recall that tens of thousands or whatnot thingie.

Now he's busted doing a similar manipulation to suit his backwards Mike Rivero-ian "right woos left" propaganda.

Though it's unfortunate Noom hates the Palestinians and never shows them any love. That's a true story too.


[ Parent ]
Noom as Keith Moon (0.00 / 0)
I'm looking around for Noom's support of Yitzhak Rabin at Daily Kos and not seeing any.

I'm just seeing his boyfriend karmafish supporting Israeli fascism.

Noom is not a lefty on this Middle East topic. Neither is Fairleft. They are two sides of the same warmongering, disinfo coin. Both are fake lefties.

One quote I see says it all:

Why oh why is this diary still up?

Jesus Christ on a pogostick! What the hell did you hope to achieve with this?

This is no better than Keith Moon. I find it very funny that the people who HR him are rec'ing this, while the people who rec KM are HRing it.

This website can be absolutely ridiculous sometimes.



[ Parent ]
dude (0.00 / 0)
I lobbed him a softball to share his opinion of Yitzhak Rabin. He came up with nothing. Nothing I sez.

http://www.blogger.com/comment...

eye don't see any softballs and no requests to share an opinion.

Noom as Keith Moon (0.00 / 0)
I'm looking around for Noom's support of Yitzhak Rabin at Daily Kos and not seeing any

What eye see is an assumption that noom is moon and an observation that moon showed no support of Yitzhaz Rabin. It speaks for itself.

wtf r yu on about?

and dude, eye just promo'd yor site. yer welcome

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[ Parent ]
So, he ushers in two elections in Feb & May this year that no Western (2.00 / 1)

media have shown were unfair and not free. Yes, we've heard the whining and anti-elections propaganda, but nothing specific. And if there were something specific like ballot stuffing you KNOW we'd hear about it and see it, like we did in Russia.

Anyway, sounds like that half of the 55% that wanted elections got what they wanted. That 27.5% did not say they wanted free election so they could vote Assad out of office. You lied about that.

Now, the other 45% is not divided in the poll between those who want peaceful protest and fair elections and those who want violent revolution in which thousands of civilians will die. I wonder how that would divvy up, if they had asked that question. And I know the choice the U.S. has made for Syria: violent revolution in which thousands of civilians have died. And disgusting Noom cheers the U.S. on for foisting that on Syria. And Socrates cheers Noom on for pushing the death agenda. And vox is always silent on Noom's death and imperialism crusading.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
You're correct fairloon if you ignore my chastising Keith Noom (0.00 / 0)
Finding anything else interesting from Rense.com?

[ Parent ]
Oops, even your favorite ambassador agrees with me: (0.00 / 0)

On the deteriorating situation in Syria, [Ryan Crocker, U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan] said "I worry greatly that the minorities, the Alawis and the Christians, are going to be in for a very awful time."

He added that he fears as well that if Muslim hardliners take over, 'the repercussions for Syria, for Lebanon and Iraq, I think, can be pretty serious'.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakis...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
this is amusing.... (0.00 / 0)
uber leftist hypocrisy on full display. Clay Claiborne arguing with yet anutter uber leftist nut.

Your standard for any fighting force is obviously perfection on the question of human rights violation. This is an extremely difficult thing to achieve in actual combat.

Still, I strongly believe that the only way Assad will be stopped will be by force of arms. If he could be talked out of what he's doing, he would have stopped a long time ago.

This is a good versus evil fight and you keep trying to make perfection the enemy of the good. That's your whole approach and it is objectively pro-Assad.

It is not true that the FSA is using civilians as human shields. How do you explain attacks, including artillery on areas with no FSA?

Remember history, Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust - narrated by Martin Sheen

by Clay Claiborne on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 12:04:03 PM PDT

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    BS (3+ / 0-)

   I am not defending the Assad regime and you know it.    On the other hand, you seem to be an enthusiastic supporter of the Saudi backed rebels.  But, objectively, the ones who take the war within densely occupied civilian areas are the rebels.  They went into civilian areas and use them as bases to attack the regime.   That is obviously why there are fights in narrow streets and civilians are killed.   It seems that the goal of the FSA is to fight the regime within densely populated areas, in order to minimize their casualties, without caring at all about the civilians who would get killed by such approach.   That is exactly what using human shields is.

   This is not good versus evil fight.   It is evil versus evil and it is completely unclear who is more evil from the 2 sides.

   8.50, 7.38

   by Blue Wind on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 12:28:44 PM PDT

link][

Oh man. All of a sudden, when it comes to defending Assad the Barbarian an uber leftist gets the concept of human shields!

Geeraranteed this nitwit never breathed a word of it when Hamas used human shields in Gaza - a war the Islamists started by launching ten thousand rockets at Israeli civilians.

Human shields! Human shields! This uber leftist ahole's all over the tactic now that his side , Assad the Sadistic Madman, has to - according to him - deal with said tactic.

uber leftists prove once again they're shameless ideologues, embarrassed by nothing.

As donk points out the fact that yu (fairwinkle) are screaming terrorist echoes republicans to a hilarious degree. You shoode be embarrassed, but I've never seen an embarrassed uber leftist online, ever. That's because you are such rigid ideologues and consummate liars.

Yes, uber leftists never disappoint. Now an uber leftist is screaming human shield.

Oh man, it's braintwisting!

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Here ya go moron: "Obama authorized secret support for Syrian rebels" (0.00 / 0)

In reference to this from what you call a "delusionally paranoid narrative ... regarding ... Syria ..." And please, donkeybrain, don't assume the following is the full story. It's as much of the reality as they'll allow into the mainstream press. The real story is that the U.S. is directing Turkey, Saudi, and Qatar, OF COURSE. Your damn donkeybrain can get at least that, right?

Obama authorized secret support for Syrian rebels

By Mark Hosenball | Reuters - 3 hrs ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, sources familiar with the matter said.

Obama's order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence "finding," broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.

This and other developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad's armed opponents - a shift that intensified following last month's failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.

The White House is for now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just that. ...

Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.

The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear. ...

A U.S. government source acknowledged that under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.

Last week, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military and communications support to Assad's opponents.

This "nerve center" is in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.

...

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusiv...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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