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Choosing not to fight the fight

by: fairleft

Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 19:00:46 PM EST


When did American politics start to feel particularly hopeless and depressing? Now I realize it was January 27, after Obama's State of the Union address. Because that was when we found out that the President had decided, no matter how much sense it made economically, not to fight the economic fight for the rest of us. Last year's stimulus package would be 'it', economic populist policy was all played out as far as he was concerned. Dean Baker summarized immediately after the SOTU (emphasis added):

President Obama['s] agenda is not bold enough to address the severity of the problems facing the economy and the country's workers.

The unemployment rate is currently in double-digits. The newest projections from the Congressional Budget Office show the unemployment rate staying above 8.0 percent until well into 2012 and not falling back to normal levels until 2014. This is a crisis for tens of millions of workers who will face unemployment solely as a result of bad economic policy and Wall Street greed.

We know the mechanisms through which we can expand the economy and bring the unemployment rate down: a much larger stimulus, more expansionary monetary policy from the Fed, and a lower dollar to bring down the trade deficit. . . .

All of these policies face serious political obstacles, but it is the President's responsibility to tell the truth to the country and to press for the policies necessary to right the economy. President Obama has apparently chosen not to fight this fight. If it is not possible to get the policies needed to restore full employment back on the political agenda, then tens of millions of people will suffer needlessly for years to come.

Instead of leading the fight that needed to be fought, Obama attempts at least rhetorically to be the nation's number one deficit hawk. Baker comments (emphasis added):

fairleft :: Choosing not to fight the fight
There would be no short-term or long-term benefit from reducing the current deficit. . . . If the budget deficit were smaller we would see higher levels of unemployment.

This is all very depressing for anyone keeping even approximate track of our country's politics. Deficit hawk economic 'thinking' dominates the salons of the Washington elite, and entirely predictably Obama gives voice to it, trying to do some old-fashioned Clinton-style triangulating. This even though deficit reduction will have a catastrophic impact on the U.S. economy in the midst of its worst downturn since the Great Depression. I mean, come on. We know we need much more stimulus and ferchrissake not cut backs, but Obama seems confidently ignorant of that fact. Or just doesn't care, not gonna fight that fight.

Of course, the news these days is all broke state govts and massive cutbacks. Not just depressing in its own right, but depressing as hugely NOT what governments need to be doing in a country with 10% official unemployment and real unemployment over 16%.

Adding news from the states to the deficit hawkism coming from the White House, the national mood is understandably depressed and fatalistic. I don't see any way out myself. Okay, yeah, long term mebbe, but this year can we the rabble impact national economic policy, turning it toward basic rationality? Well, no, not unless things quickly get far worse economically, which probly won't happen and nobody wants.

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Baker is wrong. Obama fought and he won. (3.50 / 2)


"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Your 'Obama worse than Bush' (2.00 / 1)
I thought was a little overdone. I still think 'same as Bush' is much more accurate, when you're just talking about personalities.

But, the point now is that after Obama has pushed the 'center' of his party all the way over to the Republican side on the deficit issue, now it's a competition between which Demorepublican assholes can suggest more extreme deficit-busting austerity budgets IN THE MIDDLE OF A GIGANTIC RECESSION. That's weight on your side of the argument.  

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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I believe that was always the argument made (4.00 / 3)
Obama was not worse in desire but in ability.  Not his talents but his packaging.  Only Obama the hero of the left, the great socialis, the master of "change", could neuter what passes for the left in the US and silence critics as he rolled back Medicare and Social Security.

I also said Obama represented an opportunity though.  He represents an opportunity for the blind to see, on account of their humiliation.  But as of yet there is little to no sign of this happening.  Nobody is saying, "I was wrong; Nader was right".  The progressives want to blame Obama and the Democrats, never themselves.

Obama's already worse than Bush, but not especially in significant ways.  He's just taken every Bush policy and extended it a little.  If he can cut Social Security he'll have achieved something to put him firmly beyond Bush, but that is by no means assured, and I doubt he'll manage it.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.


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His whimpy incompetence will save us. (0.00 / 0)
If he were a dynamic 'real man' Democrat like 'everyone' has been yelling for over the past 10 years, he'd have a clean slate by now and be building up a push to 'rein in' SocSec and Medicare early in 2011. But, as it is, looks like we'll have a 'do nothing' four years, which is much better than the next most likely alternative.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Obama is not an irresistible force. (4.00 / 1)
Congress is not an immovable object.

But we don't know the metrics of either.

We correctly observed that Bush drove the economy off the cliff. Do you think Obama can turn it into an airplane and fly it back?

This next election should be a beaut, with corporate money at a level astonishing to see.

Humans are ungovernable at the level of accuracy you wish to see, so resign yourself to despair.

There, are you happier now, with that load of expectation off your shoulders?


Nice comment Otvos (2.00 / 1)
Humans are meant to be ungovernable.

Human imperfection and strife is the perfect state of mankind.  

Failreft will never figure this out until he's inside the razor barbs looking out, and still blaming someone else for his enslavement.



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Didn't know you were _that_ conservative, but (0.00 / 0)
half suspected it. Predictable anti-democratic Hobbesianism from an Obama Democrat.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Failreft the Randall_tex_Cobb of the Whiteysphere (0.00 / 0)


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You give fakeReft too much credit (3.00 / 1)
At least Cobb could take a punch. This example fits better. I demand a better Gilligan Show!



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You misquote me. There's no MEANT about it. (4.00 / 1)
It's just a state of evolution. Imperfect, hodgepodge, accidental, meaningless.

It's just as dumb to think your weirdness is holy as it is to think your conformance is.

Freud was right sometimes.


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I didnt misquote you, I improved you... (0.00 / 0)
And yur quaker oats ego can't allow that...of course, not.

RIOTOUS!

Freud was the correctest human ever, except for Gautama.



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The Dems & Repubs bipartisanly drove the econ off a cliff (0.00 / 0)
If you begin there you might understand where we're very naturally at now, with Obama and the Republicans agreeing that enemy number one IN THE MIDDLE OF A GIGANTIC RECESSION is the deficit.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Deficits aren't the enemy. Parasitism is. (0.00 / 0)
You think Larry Ellison needs a 300' yacht?

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Obviously both are. (0.00 / 0)


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Where's the Sane, Liberal Anger? (0.00 / 0)
Article below also gets to the core of what's frustrating about 'liberals' and pwoggies these days. We're in the middle of a full-blown, kicking asses deep recession and where the hell is the anger? Which makes me take the next rational step past Mr. Sigal: the people not getting angry are part of the right-wing elite that supports or acquiesces to the Reagan-Bush-Obama era re-distribution of income to the 'better' classes. Anyway, read the following, and the comments:

Where's the Sane, Liberal Anger? Have Progressives Abandoned Emotion to the Right?
While Tea Partiers protest loudly at the mess we're in progressives seem to be stewing in their own sterile politeness.
The Guardian / By Clancy Sigal
March 3, 2010

"Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me and I welcome their hatred." -- President Roosevelt, Madison Square Garden, 31 October 1936

There is an astonishing lack of anger among liberals, progressives and radicals who have abandoned emotion to the right. Our role model continues to be not FDR, still less Malcolm X, but our "bipartisan" and apparently tone-deaf President Obama. In this second or third year of a devastating depression, not just recession, that has inflicted an epidemic of suffering on the lower half of the American nation, Obama is very busy being fluent and civil while being essentially untouched by the rage felt by so many of us. Our world, as we have known it, is being annihilated, and nobody in power shows signs of giving a damn.

The real anger is all on the right, kidnapped - or authentically voiced - by the all-white Tea Partiers, Palinites, Oath Keepers and "armed and dangerous" patriot groups, some but not all of whom are native-fascistic but also include pissed-off libertarians and the disappointed and dispossessed at the bottom of the pile. . . .

The last time I remember collective anger as legitimate was in the now-much-derided 1960s with its protest marches and brazen hippie-style slogans. Ever since there's been a gradual slide - I would argue descent - into sterile politeness. Recently, I attended a meeting of my local school board where a mild, hardly-above-a-whisper grumble from a parent prompted his expulsion enforced by armed police. Who knows what might have happened if any of us in the audience had stood up and actually spoken out as in that famous Norman Rockwell painting of a town hall meeting? . . .



For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

Where's the beef? (2.00 / 1)
The article is good, unfortunately you have nothing to add to it with your blogging style.  

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Anger is seen as an irrational reaction, the crisis is still tentative for most (4.00 / 2)
especially the Serious People who can sit on their asses all day journalizing. The pwog-o-meter is Viagrad up, for now...and the dopey donks of the world still phantasmagorize.

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I.e., 'I got mine Jack' (0.00 / 0)
That's what we see, 'liberals' who don't realize they're conservatives who like their set up and bottom line don't give a shit about the society as a whole. I.e, like donkeytale. "Hey man, it's a dog eat dog USA/world out there, get yours like I got mine and otherwise STFU damn socialist."

There's no way an authentic liberal politician, commentator or pundit would be sitting on his/her hands and saying and doing nothing about bringing down a huge unemployment rate. But we hear nothing from, for example, Russ Feingold, except that the recession will be, apparently as in 'must be', very long and harsh. Blandly accepting at least 8.5% unemployment even three years from now, that's what Dem Party 'liberals' are doing right now.


... economists say a quick turnaround in the jobless rate is unlikely without pouring significant amounts of federal cash - in the form of tax cuts and spending - into the problem.

That's something lawmakers are skittish about, given the public's mounting concern over deficit spending.

The House passed a $154 billion jobs bill in December, but Senate leaders are expected to have a much tougher time securing enough votes for even a dramatically scaled-back $15 billion package. The Senate measure is largely made up of tax credits that would exempt companies from paying Social Security taxes for the rest of the year on new workers.

Wisconsin Democratic Sens. Russ Feingold and Herb Kohl are expected to support the measure.

"We know the road to recovery is far from over and we need to put together a strong, bipartisan jobs bill that will reinforce (the advances made by the stimulus)," Kohl said in a statement.

Feingold has pushed for a similar jobs tax credit in the past. He says the measure would "help Wisconsin businesses hire workers they otherwise wouldn't be able to."

Economists, however, say the measure before the Senate is too small to make a dent in a $14 trillion national economy. They also say the tax credit will most likely be used by companies already poised to hire new workers because the credits don't come close to covering the costs of hiring.

"There's no question it isn't enough, given the magnitude of the nation's economic problems," said Andrew Reschovsky, an economist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who argues instead for an extension of unemployment benefits and additional federal help to states.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/s...

That's fucking Russ Feingold, the supposed St. Russ of pwoggie dreams 2007. Supports a DOLLARSIGN_SOAPBLOX15_ billion new stimulus mostly consisting of corporate tax breaks.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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One Nation under Sedation; Recoverall will stop Nation wide Depression (5.00 / 1)
American have simply devolved

All our economic problems are actually chemical. Pharamceutical experts have done tests and if every American is forced to buy health insurance they should certainly be forced to take medication that will get us out of our collection recession which is under recovery right now, but in danger of turning into a depression if we don't all medicate.

Recoverall..is the medication by Smith Kline that has been approved for use for all Americans.

Just 3 tablets a day and not only will you feel better, but it won't matter anymore how much your paid.


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oops, fergot duh link (0.00 / 0)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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I see they're shooting up the Pentagon. Any comments? (0.00 / 0)


DC Green Zone, Coming Soon (4.00 / 1)


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Mortars (4.00 / 1)
will be selling like hot cakes by then.

What are hot cakes anyways?

"May we live long and die out"


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'hot cakes' (4.00 / 1)
you heard it here first...

Anyway, I'm sure there are more **redacted** launch ers in the DC area than in the whole of Gaza...it's a real underground type thing you won't ever hear about. My highschool neighbor bought one with part of his graduation money. He was a black kid with Phd parents and a full non-sports college scholarship. Theo Cosby but for real. He just did it to impress his friends over summer break or some shit. That's one of the first shocks I think I had about the state of suburbia.

I was watching courtTV the other day and it seems like all the low profile domestic murders these days are being done with military weapons or collectible automatics. One particular guy had an Israeli military rifle he was 'cleaning'(fully assembled) 'misfire' and just happen to line up with his girlfriend's neck as she was sitting down the hall and across the apartment watching tv. Fucking people are sitting in their studio apts., playing with military hardware.

I hold out hope that americans are too dumb to improvise beyond their current arsenals...


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You have no idea. Really. You should live in Richmond, CA. (0.00 / 0)


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I've lived everywhere...you're right if you were hinting it's all the same (0.00 / 0)
Notice I'm citing an anecdote from more than a decade ago. And it was only strange because of the extemely sleepy vanilla neighborhood in which it occured. It's not, like, the only shit I've seen. I lived on the south side of Chicago, and a few of its tri-state hideout cities.

And appalachia. Cincinnati. Phoenix. Detroit.


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Laura When Will You Stop Running? (5.00 / 2)
Laura, I know your on the run. I want to help. What you did was much worse than Baader Meinhof, but you did it because you a free spirit, there was no political agenda.

All I'm asking in return for a place to hideout is some of the money.

I won't turn you in. I won't. I'm not that kind of person. Other people are that kind of person. I know what your going through always looking over your shoulder. You can trust me. All I want is half.


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I'll settle for less than him. (0.00 / 0)
And I'll get you a sparkle pony.

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The peeps are steppin off (4.00 / 3)
the edge. One by one. The system guardians know it. Soon it'll be pairs. Then groups who find an affinity with each other for can't give a fuck anymore-idness.

Laura's right about the DC Green Zone. We've been headed that direction for almost a decade now.

"May we live long and die out"


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Things will continue in this fascist direction unless/until there's a hard countervailing force (4.00 / 1)
pushing them the other way. Don't see the hard countervailing force at all, in fact the push right is getting stronger, but it could be beyond the horizon.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Crazy People are our only hope (4.00 / 1)
Ralph Nader understands that medicated America will never resist so he's turning to the rich to support a countervailing course.

I think our best hope is crazy people. Organize them. Set them loose with signs calling for an end to the wars, and end to corruption.

There's a movie out called the CRAZIES...maybe it can be used as a call for resistance, something to rally around.


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