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Are the Teabaggers Real or are they Memorex?

by: donkeytale

Sun Jan 24, 2010 at 12:15:41 PM EST


http://www.salon.com/news/opin...

FakeLeft meet FakePopulism.

RIOTOUS!

This, fakelefties, is what yur dissent from the Demotardic Party buys you: an even deeper hole in which to bury even more worthless BS.

Money walks and bullshit talks.

Where are the real populists now? The notion of right-wing "populism" is suddenly fashionable following last Tuesday's special election in Massachusetts, when even stiff millionaire suit Mitt Romney could be heard braying about the "royalists" who rule Washington. But all such fakery was exposed today by an event of far greater moment. The Supreme Court's narrow, poorly argued and highly political decision in the Citizens United case -- which removes century-old restrictions on corporate influence-buying -- is the culmination of a Republican dream. From this moment forward, what the original American populists once called "the money power" will be enabled to overwhelm all other forces in American democracy using sheer wealth -- and that includes every "tea party" activist with a dissenting opinion about bank bailouts, executive abuses or crooked contracting.

Since you have no movement of yur own FakeLefties, why not sign on with the Tea Party and make yur dissatisfaction heard where it actually will matter!!!!

You can pretend the "tea" is some other green herb that is currently illegal...

yeah, thats the ticket!
donkeytale :: Are the Teabaggers Real or are they Memorex?
Under the old dispensation, which prohibited direct corporate expenditures on elections for nearly a century, Exxon Mobil could spend only what its political action committee raised from executives and employees. In 2008, said Waldman, that was roughly $1 million. Under the new order, the world's biggest oil company can spend as much as its management cares to siphon from its earnings -- which in 2008 amounted to $45 billion.

While most of the anger stoked against the Obama administration by the tea party groups is currently focused on healthcare reform, the original irritant was the spectacle of hundreds of billions of dollars poured into the Big Banks, the crooked insurance behemoth AIG, the reckless traders at Goldman Sachs, and all the abuses that attended those bailouts.

According to Judson Phillips, the Tennessee lawyer who organized the upcoming tea party convention, many of the movement's rank-and-file "believe that Congress pays far too much attention to Wall Street and not enough attention to Main Street."  Dale Robertson, the founder of TeaParty.org, reacting directly to the Citizens United decision, told blogger Joy Reid that it is a constitutional travesty: "It just allows them to feed the machine. Corporations are not like people. Corporations exist forever, people don't. Our founding fathers never wanted them; these behemoth organizations that never die, so they can collect an insurmountable amount of profit. It puts the people at a tremendous disadvantage."

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Or is it "Money talks and bullshit walks?" (0.00 / 0)
[:o)

This is a serious propsal, BTW.

The fakeleft have discarded the Demotards. Actually, I understand why in a nihilistic sense. Yu dont have the numbers or the ballz to take over the donkey Party, so why not join up and numbers to the people who do have the ballz to take over the elephantine Party?

WTF the difference which party? There are only two....and turning the teabaggs slightly left mite be enuff to keep yu out of residency in the Prison Industrial Complex in a few years when the Baggers take over....altho history not on yur side there....see Germany, Nazi; R, USS; Iran, Islamic Revolutionary, for further dtales.

Or you can keeeep dreaminng that Naderian Revolution will someday come to fruition!!!???!!!

RIOTOUS!

'donkeytale tells left to join tea partiers' (4.00 / 2)
Diary summary.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
DIdnt realize it needed a summary, but thanks failreft...here some more thots for you: (0.00 / 0)
The GOP is being transformed by the TeaBaggers, which is a rightwing populist movement. They are channeling their anger at the PTB into politics. While I dont agree with their politics, I do believe their methods are legit, at least to date.

What will make them or break them is their acceptance of corporate money in the system and whether or should I say how easily they will be bought off by power and money which follows success as sure as night follows day.

As for "leftist populism", where is it? I see only a Fakeleft populism which actually aligns with the Teabaggers in many crucial areas (though, of course not all areas): anti- immigrant nativism, anti- establishment Demotards, anti- corporations, anti- affirmative action and so on.

That is why I proposed the fakeleft joining with the Teabag Party to effect real change on the ground. The FakeLeft agrees with much of the Teabag platform and revolt against the status quo is revolt against undeniably the status quo. The SCOTUS decision seems to be a potential common rallying ground for a coalition.

That of course would take energy and courage. I'm still thinking it through....I've had this coalition in mind since the 2008 Ron Paul phenomenon, which appealed to a fairly large cross-section of the whiteysphere, even tho Paul is in fact an old skkkool conservative. The anti-war.com site is another paleo conservative site which is on the blogroll here, too. Pat Buchanan finds common ground here as well.

And of course, Failreft is the veritable poster boy for fakeleft populism, so clearly defined by his regurgitation of the "tax the rich" schemes of Huey Long.

Interesting. I think we are seeing the full effect of "right woos left" internet message control, or if you will, an uncoupling of the remaining few white working class left from traditional leftism. Hence, the term "fakeleft."

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So you're pro-establishment Demotards? (4.00 / 2)
You're liking President Do-Nothing during 10% unemployment?

What are you for? Something practical, I'd bet not. And that's not a criticism, it's simply a fact that there's little to nothing good going on in American politics right now, and little to nothing to be 'for'. Most true leftists are raising their babies or dogs and ignoring politics as best they can except when it bites them directly in the ass. Which it is doing more and more these days, so I hope more people begin to resist, but I don't see it happening either. People are extremely confused as to what to do, for one thing (which I try to rectify, but my blogging doesn't reach enought people). And when people figure out how radical common sense should make them, they're scared since those ideas are outside the corporate media circle of normalcy.

What do you suggest an authentic leftist is?

What do suggest he/she do in the present corporate-money controlled political and media system?

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

[ Parent ]
I already suggested it.....d'uh! Get the net! (0.00 / 0)
Organize and take over the party...theres little to nothing going on in American politics right now? Are you willfully blind or just stupid?

This truly, truly cracks me up. Most true leftists are cocooning, is what yur  RIOTOUS! You mean then there are no true leftists. Thanks for finally confirming the point I've been making for years....there are no true leftists, then, if thats the case.

But, dude. People are resisting. They happen to be from the right, is all. The teabags claim to be those people. They are running against the Republikkkan establishment too. Putting up primary candidates all over the cuntry.

I'm suggesting that the concept of "authentic left" is irrelevant.  

Looose yur false sense of identity as a "leftist" is what I'm suggesting. You are lost in the labelling, which doesnt fit well with yur stated political philosophy. Over and over you espouse a pastiche of populist views more aligned with the paleoconservatives like Paul, Buchanan, Anti-War.com, or post-ideological paranoid theorists like Alex Jones and Lyndon LaRouche.

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I agree, take over the party (0.00 / 0)
So, I assume, you were a big supporter of Kucinich's presidential campaign? Or, let's see, he's not left he's fake left? Is he a post-ideological paranoid theorist? Or, what was his problem, other than the haircut by cereal bowl?

But let's be depressingly realistic, Kucinich's campaign funding was dwarfed by the corporate-money candidates and gathered like mebbe 5% support among Democrats who voted.

That being so, the good move is to pretend the corporate-serving candidates actually serve the people? Cuz that's what fake left still supporting Obama at this one-year anniversary looks like.  

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Yur just making my point for me with Kucinich. (0.00 / 0)
Kucinich gained no support. I'd say he's "left", altho he could also be considered an "establishment Demotard", especially since he endorsed and campaigned for Obama and he's been in office forever.

So then he's either fakeLeft or Left. Whatever. The labels are not relevant. The point you make is my point: Kucinich has no support. The NeoLeft has no support, no prospects, cant stand on its own.

Join the Teabags and gain relevance!

Stop following the delsusional roads to nowhere named Kucinich, McKinney, Nader.

My thesis is that you take over either party, it doesnt matter which one since "they are both the same". Obushma.

This, according to the NeoLeft's own defining principles.

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So you're sincerely saying 'donkeytale tells left to join tea partiers' (0.00 / 0)
I thought that was a joke. If it was a joke, what do you seriously suggest?

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
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Read what I'm saying. Read what you are saying. Think deeply. (0.00 / 0)
You are saying the "left" in a vain attempt to se;f-identify with something yur not. I'm saying the "NeoLeft" which is an all-white group that espouses many paranoid rightwing views in its mixture of discontent with both political parties and resentment of elites more closely resembles the Teabags then then it does the "traditional left" which we both know hardly exists, except within the establishment Demotards and includes "coloured groups" with whom you don't interact.

The "NeoLeft" say the Republikkkans are no different than the Demotards. Obama = Bush. Obushma. Do you really mean this or are you joking?

Do you really mean that affirmative action = racism, that healthcare reform robs medicare, that illegal immigrants should be arrested and deported, that police surveillance and police forces should be increased in the coloured neighborhoods?

Were you really glad that the Republikkkans won the 41st seat in Mass using white working class resentment to move the federal govt to the right?

If so, and you are not joking, then the "NeoLeft" has plenty of common ground for coalition with teh TeaBags. Your message is largely theirs, with a few mushy peacenikkk sentiments as the only real differences. Teabag populism is  based on white working class and middle class resentment with the PTB.

Isnt that yur schtick too, except that its found an audience and a movement on the right?

You just admitted that the traditional Demotardic left, as represented by Dennis Kucinich, is moribund and ineffectual.

You want change or don't you? The NeoLeft could emulate the Teabag movement and organize from the ground up but that seems about as farfetched as Kucinich winning the Demotardic nomination. The numbers aren't there, regardless of what excuses you manufacture. Its the corpy media, its Obama, its the blue dogs, blah blah blah. You are too busy cocooning and ignoring politics, or wtf the excuse du jour is today. Exactly. Yur not a leftist, what I'm sayin.

Its really really more real to say that the "neoLeft" isnt really into leftism at all, but only practicing online griping amongst yurselves in an ever shrinking polarized group frenzy of blogging and deluding yurselves into thinking this alone matters?

While the teabags steal the white working class right out from under you in RL?

You are really the one who is joking.

Kidding yurslef.

 

[ Parent ]
Rightist fake populism is very well-funded and mainstream media-ed (4.00 / 1)
Real populism won't be well-funded and won't be seen much if at all on the mainstream media. That's how it works. Kucinich is an imperfect representation of left populism, but I supported him more than any other Democrat. What happened? He was severely underfunded and was treated like an insubordinate elf by the mainstream media.

And, about this bullshit:

Do you really mean that affirmative action = racism, that healthcare reform robs medicare, that illegal immigrants should be arrested and deported, that police surveillance and police forces should be increased in the coloured neighborhoods?

Were you really glad that the Republikkkans won the 41st seat in Mass using white working class resentment to move the federal govt to the right?

No, no, no, no, and no. Read what I write, not socrates' paranoid interpretation.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

[ Parent ]
Huey Long and Father Coughlin whipped up populism from the mainstream...one as a Gov/Senator and the other as a TALK RADIO HOST. (0.00 / 0)
The populist urge is not fake. Now, maybe the people who are taking advantage of it are fake, but so what? Long was a fake. He rode the people's despair to success but didnt create a lasting movement of any sort. Just a cult of personbality around him, that died with him. Hillary reached for it in teh primaries and almost got nominated with it. McCain brought in Palin who is head to toe populist in rhetoric and image. Populism is little more than rhetorical smoke/mirrors from which a new elite arises or an old elite resuscitates itself. Bet on it.

I hate seeing Obama lean this way but it appears inevitable. The system is the problem. The Filibuster has been perverted into Minority stops Majority. Pyrrhiod. Course, it cuts both ways. Undo it now and the Rs will have their way someday again too...

Populism is the foundation for many forms of racism/fascism too. The Nazis used populism. The KKK was a populist movement. The "little guy" always means the little white guy or the "good German", not the little black guy or the little jewish guy. Those are used as scapegoats, AKA "elites". You even use the term "black elites" in yur anti-affirmative action schtick.

Just. Like. A. Republikkkan.

The real point is that if the teabag populist schtick works electorally in 2010 and the right takes ever more power what difference will our quibbling over its authenicity make? Zero.

Kucinich is not a populist, dude. He's a liberal wonk who appeals to other educated liberal elites. Pyrrhiod...thats the secret to his lack of success, just like Nader. Hate to break it to you, but educated liberal know-it-alls like us are pretty far down the charts in terms of actual numbers....thats the issue, here, the lack of appeal of liberals or leftists or wtf, to the white working class and semi-educated white middle class who form the populist base. That base tends to like ickup drivin white guyz just like them.

True Populism bubbles up and makes its leaders not vice versa. The top down model is really the fake model. Its pretty clear that the Teabags have formed a movement thats working at bottom up. Yur casting about for a head, a Kucinich but the body is already gone elsewhere...

Yur denying that you called me racist for supporting affirmative action? You deny that you called for more police presence and surveillance cameras in teh ghetto? You deny that you want illegals fired from their jobs and deported? You deny that you backed the AHIP line 100% that HC reform = cuts in Medicare benefits?

Sersly?

[ Parent ]
Quotes from Huey Long speeches??? (3.00 / 2)
I'd love to read some of his reactionary shit so I can hate him like you and Socrates do. Don't forget the links.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
[ Parent ]
Don't you know? (3.00 / 1)
All the news that's fit to print about Huey Long(the irrelevant link to Father Coughlin is always slobbered out) is contained in 'All The King's Men'? You can read the book or just watch the film if that's easier.
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As usual, you have nothing (0.00 / 0)
Bye Loooser.

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No Long evidence ever? How 'bout you, Socrates?? (2.00 / 1)
I'm a scientific method person and will gratefully thank you for showing me that Huey Long is a terrible monster if you provide monstrous quotes from his speeches.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
[ Parent ]
Here's an admiring piece on Long that fits in quite well with you and Laura's love for the man: (5.00 / 1)
http://www.stormfront.org/foru...

Recognize yur take on several subjects in that piece, Lauara and Fail? You guys could get yur work published on that site, for sure.

RIOTOUS!

Long opened up New Orleans to the mob and he and his family were on the family payroll for decades. Here are some Long as mafia ennabler links out of hundreds available, but he only worked for the Mob on behalf of the little people, of course:

http://mafia.z04.org.ua/zPage_...

"Huey Long was the best friend the mob ever had"

RIOTOUS!

http://www.americanmafia.com/A...

http://history.latech.edu/publ...

Here's a wingnut fan of the "leftist" Long who also does a nice hatchet job on Obama very reminiscent of Failreft's own fine NeoLeftist work. And it includes a nice Long story in his own words! Failreft thinks the words count more than anything!

http://townhall.com/columnists...

Here's more "lies" about Long. Why, they claim he never helped the underclass at all, just used the poor to consolidate his own power. Huh? Not the "leftist" Kingfish beloved by the KKK????

http://www.jstor.org/pss/2166125

Here are still more lies spread about Huey, these debunking the urban myth that Long built LSU:

http://www.lsureveille.com/new...

Long even fired college journalists for criticising him. Turns out he only built the band and the football team...

RIOTOUS!  

[ Parent ]
So, (3.00 / 2)
you first searched for 'Huey Long' at Stormfront(cute tactic), then Googled 'Huey Long' 'mafia' and listed the first few links, etc etc...'according to All The King's Men yadda yadda yaddda'.

LOL Holmes...kick back, ey? Your Goggler is wearing out.

But assuming there's an actual message you're trying to send, were you saying there wasn't a thriving mafia presence in NOLA before Long? Riotous! And wow...coincidentally the southern mafia grew more successful during the depression. WOW imagine! New casinos were built! Mob dudes ate spaghetti! All on Long's watch.

The closest thing to any proof in your links are third-hand anonymous 'allegations' that Long did this or that with certain mob fellas. And really who cares. 'Respected' politicians nationwide reached extreme heights of friendliness with organized crime during the depression. So even if these rumors and allegations were true...

Why always so intent on proving the Hollywood version?  

[ Parent ]
Speaking of the Hollywood version (4.00 / 1)
why aren't any films ever made about the LA mafia(s)?
Ok maybe there's been two or tree.

Riotous.

[ Parent ]
Nicely done, as usual. Exposed yur own stupddity with one short q & a to yurslef (0.00 / 0)
You have nothing. Thanks for exposing it over and over again....Stormfront wants you! Yur level of intelligence
[ Parent ]
* projection alert * !!!! (0.00 / 0)

[ Parent ]
stealing my bits now! thanks for the kudos (0.00 / 0)
N/Time for loooosers
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Uhhh, because Failreft asked so I delivered. (0.00 / 0)
Plus, I love watching you piss all over yur white sheet.

You have nothing.

Thanks again for playing along at home. Milk and cookies for little Laura...  

[ Parent ]
This bitch is easier to swat than a fly (2.50 / 2)
 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...

Of course to laurajohn, you are a clerk of Sunstein's sent to use cognitive infiltration to collect the bill. You are the pimp from Hollywood. And we know who controls the cinemas, the media, and ultimately the world. RUN FOR THE HILLS, IT'S THE JOOOS!!! Just ask Lyndon Larouche. He's their kind of lefty. Ok, I'm back to quitting this forum. And apologies to all tenth graders. The fake lefties at this website have the reasoning ability of 4th graders. They are loooosers, boring too.


http://davefromqueens2.blogspo...
http://allaircraftarenotinvolv...

[ Parent ]
You really are a strange little person (4.00 / 1)
Now bow to Willee Stark!
[ Parent ]
s/he's many strange (1.00 / 1)
little people. Actually, he's a punk. He's always been a punk, for the 4+ years I've known of him. Doesn't even have entertainment value anymore.

I think we need to aim higher :o)


"May we live long and die out"

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You've known me one year, douchebag (0.00 / 0)
You're fucking insane. You come across as if you might be schizophrenic. Whether it was drugs or alcohol or you were abused as a child or whatever, the bottom line is you turned out to be a stinking pile of bullshit. I'm not Shadowthief. That you believe I was shows how worthless everything you've ever written has been. The name Supergump describes you exactly.  

http://davefromqueens2.blogspo...
http://allaircraftarenotinvolv...
[ Parent ]
I may not know who you are (5.00 / 1)
but I know what love is...Jennaay :o)

"May we live long and die out"
[ Parent ]
I hate stealing from DonkeyTale (4.00 / 2)
I was thinking earlier today about how absolutely predictable and boring you've become. You need a new act. Don't you care about us here at all? We need a better pet monkey and you ain't it anymore.

Your "schtick" is so routine now that you can basically just slap a projection alert on every comment or essay you squeeze out anymore.

We had promise, you and me. You were going to teach me about Andy Stephenson and Brett Kimberlin (the speedway bomba!!) and I was going to be your grasshopper :o) Where did we go so wrong?



"May we live long and die out"

[ Parent ]
Everybody loves stealing from DonkeyTale (0.00 / 0)
Its the sincerest form of flattery.

Thanks, Super....

[ Parent ]
High School textbook history, as usual (2.00 / 1)
I thot you were stoned through school?

Or should we blame Google and Wiki. It's usually one or the other with you rightwingers.

[ Parent ]
As usual you have nothing. (0.00 / 0)
Bye Loooser.
[ Parent ]
PFF is a good site (4.00 / 2)
The blogs site is only as good as the person who runs it. You have a good site in my opinion Fairleft.

Sites like Daily Kos, My Left Wing, FSZ, Open Left are run by people who attract other people who are like them. And I think for the most part it's very bad.  

[ Parent ]
Those compliments are 100% re-directed to Laura (4.00 / 2)
I don't run the site or pay any of its bills, I only benefit from Laura's money and her 'freedom' hands-off approach, which encourages the cross-section of rightfully frustrated and pissed off opinion you hopefully find here.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
[ Parent ]
Right (4.00 / 1)
Right....Laura is a perfect site administrator...doesn't get involved in unnecessary stuff... terriffic.
[ Parent ]
Or maybe you prefer "nativist Left"? The "whiteyspheric Left?" "The fascist Left?" (0.00 / 0)
The "left" alone is a bit too all encompassing for this discusson, which is why I guess you needed to spin my words and meaning, as usual. Are you communicating to yur minions, or wtf?

"Don't listen to donkeytool...he's an insidious agent of the PTB meant to confuse and distract you from yur true mission, which is to waste yur life online while the rightwing consolidates power ever more rightward in real life."

RIOTOUS!

The "left" would include, y'know, people of colour, who don't buy into all of the rightwing concepts that you do...so, no I was pointedly urging yu and yur minions, all three of them, or wtf, to make yurselves relevant in RL.

[ Parent ]
Donkey (4.33 / 3)
I don't think Fairleft considers himself a "liberal".

Francis Holland would feel comfortable here, I think Donkey Tale. Nobody would bother him...except maybe you.

There's no question that there is no left in this country...that's old news...to some...Bill Mahr I heard is saying that and the legions of those who years ago were believers are now acting as though they knew all along.

Finally people are seeing Obama as a very conservative person....the problem is....I don't know what good it's going to do them, because they don't seem to "get it" anyway.

THey are all wrapped up in :"personality"...I guess they will look for another personality....someone who inspire them rhetorically.

Obama is a bad guy. He's a killer with a smile, he's not honest in any way shape or form and doesn't respect the value of honesty....it really is what makes things work. You can't exist without it.

But the government is stealing from us all ...and thats the seamless Bush Obama presidency.

It can only go in the direction of a BIG EVENT. The BIG EVENT...will bring Americans together in mutual fear and insecurity.

It really won't be that BIG...but they will make it out to be and I think Obama has a really good chance at reelection after the BIG EVENT occurs.

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Your wrong Stu. Go back and check the record at MLW...I backed Francis 100% (0.00 / 0)
as I did DFQ, and do you, Byron, Socrates, Otvos, 4ky and Failreft too, wherever we all end up together. I totally believe in the original PFF concept and you know why? Because its interesting, expands the mind thru argumentation and disagreement and we provide our own "cognitive infiltration" free from Govt interference or admin interference. Plus it draws eyeballs, too. Trolls reule, dude. Bet on it.

Why I'm still here. And why I'm not at FSZ, altho MattyJack truly takes a "handsoff" editorial approach ala Peeder, unlike LauraJohn, who plays her little favouritism games to her own detriment, ala MSOC and MAMZ. But Mattyjack chilled the whackobs and the argumentation/disagreement along with the allimportant whackjobbiness, circled the wagons around the "regulars" who were in fact all noob ex-kos kops and proceeded to kill the dialogue and the PFF Vibe. Totally. Undeniably.

We should all be back together under one sky-God, is my opinion. We can call our Sky-God "Peeder," since he no longer exists, just like Jaweh. Peeder was jewish too.

You can see firsthand the udder sterility of Matty Jacks approach. No thread interaction whatsoever, but all in all better diairizing than here because he's unafraid to front page disagreeable out of step stuff, unlike LauraJohn here, who holds and carries grudges like any off the shelf dullard.

Or maybe its because there are only a few of us who can handle the torment of each other.

[:o)

Great dairy about Binladen's capture, BTW, Stu. Thats the kinda schtick of yurs that I enjoy immensely. Really like your stuff in that mode. Playful yet profound underlying meaning.

Here, I'm suggesting the disaffected with Obama/Demotards are really just another side of the teabag coin. And the numbers on the so-called left dwindle in time anyway. I wonder why that is? The media is controlled by the right, true enuff, but so in fact is the so-called alternative media.....money always controls, stu. This isnt new. The corporate media controlled during the 60s, during the 30s, during the 19th century. Bet on it.

SO lets say that self identified liberals are 21% of the electorate. Conservatives maybe 30%.

Teh unaligned middle is the rest. They went for Obama in 2008 and now seem to trend back to the right, but the right is changing, adapting its message. Its basically the same message as the whiteysphere! in all but a very few of the particulars.

You put a coalition together of disaffecteds, let the teabags run the races in the red states and the "neoLeft" run the races in the blue states and maybe we have something! Make for a helluva fun convention too.... The PFF Party!

I havent worked all this out yet, but if change is truly what you seek, and you dislike the Dems and the Repub PTB equally, and you cant get anything substantive organized fro the left, then why not a political coalition of disaffecteds from both ideologies?

Half a loaf is better than none, and in the system of things, you stand a much better chance inside a growing movement then you do standing outside looking in with no power at all.

Pisonally, I just think Failreft likes to hear himself whine and isnt ready to take responsibility and do something about it. Political doing is too messy. Mite get yur perfectly clean skivvies soiled in the process. Crystal clear ideology as we all know is whats truly important.

The ideological hurdle, the labels, are in fact whats standing in the way, IMHO. But fact remains, Teabag is a white movement. The working class white is disaffected. The Neoleft is a white movement. How about the "NeoLeft?"

would you all embrace that if I stopped calling you "fakeleft?"

Whatever, its the same thing at root, as is the Teabag. tangential differences only diff that I see.

 

[ Parent ]
Donkey (3.00 / 1)
Boy I don't notice Fairleft or Laura getting into people on a personal level...by that I mean personal having nothing to do with politics personal.

The last thing I personally am interested in is Meta. So' I'll stop.

[ Parent ]
Donkey's Tales... Campfear stories... (4.00 / 1)

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