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Some Other Man's Road

by: donkeytale

Sat Jan 23, 2010 at 13:32:24 PM EST


Otvos is just another narrow-minded adherent following some other man's road to nowhere. In this, he is no different from any one of billions of unenlightened souls, including you and me.

Like me and you, he confuses plastic phenomena such as "religion", "science" and "atheism" with the inherent nature that exists behind his eyes. "Atheistic" illusions are to be valued as much and as little as "religious" and "scientific" illusions and we would do well to properly regard Otvos, as all "atheists," with a deeply felt caring and concern for his well-being, for his illusions are also our own, no more and no less. His concepts and his terminology may utilize different symbolism but his reality is the same.

Bet on it.

Buddha's non-plastic view of reality encompasses, assimilates and makes perfectly logical sense, in fact makes observably scientific sense, out of the man-made terms and concepts known as "religion," "science" and "atheism."

Buddha's path is right here and now for all of us to realize but requires us to get beyond our learned blindness and stop following some other man's road to nowhere.

"Atheists" often express their pain and suffering through petulant, angry ridicule. In doing so, "atheists" are merely expressing revulsion of their own non-substantiality.  The atheist lashes out vainly in the attempt to exorcise the chimeras of his reflected fear. "Religion" to this narrow level of conscience consists solely of supernatural beings, totems, symbols, myths and fairy tales, and it is the desire of the atheist to destroy these self-induced outre conceptions like children throwing tantrums and toys at the very God who gifted them, at the bemused and indulgent parent who knows better, at themselves.  

Otvos, like the rest of us who are condemned to imperfect awareness by evolutionary processes beyond our comprehension, can't get past his pathos, his vanity, his unsatisfied hunger and his pain to the reality which exists behind his eyes.

As has been pointed out, all things appear and disappear because of a series of causes and conditions. Nothing ever exists entirely alone; everything exists only in relation to everything else. By the same reasoning, enlightenment cannot exist apart from ignorance, nor ignorance apart from enlightenment. Since things do not differ in their essential nature, there can be no duality.

People habitually think of themselves as being connected with birth and death, but in reality there are no such conceptions. When people are able to realize this truth, they have realized the non-duality of birth and death.

--Bukkyo Dendo Kyokai

KILL THE BUDDHA!

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"The Preceding Message Was Brought To you Courtesy of Frau Tale" (5.00 / 1)
[:o)




True. And not true.... (5.00 / 1)
Heedlessly mindful:

A man, who is free from heedlessness and is heedless no more, purifies himself and shines in this world like the moon which is freed from a cloud.

A personal favorite:

Blind is this world. Few are those who clearly see. As birds escape from a net, few go to a blissful state.

and just one more, apropos of Nothing:

There is no evil that cannot be done by the liar, who has transgressed the one law (of truthfulness) and who is indifferent to a world beyond.


and is truth found by stasis or search? (4.00 / 1)


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For me, Buddhism isn't about "I'm a Buddhist" (4.00 / 1)
Buddhism at its best, imho, seemed simply to be devolving into what Thomas Paine was reaching for in the first three or four quotes below.  

My country is the world, and my religion is to do good.

I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.

Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man.

It is an affront to treat falsehood with complaisance.

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.

There are matters in the Bible, said to be done by the express commandment of God, that are shocking to humanity and to every idea we have of moral justice.

Is it not a species of blasphemy to call the New Testament revealed religion, when we see in it such contradictions and absurdities.

It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving, it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quo...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


So what yur sayin is, for you, being a "Buddhist" means you are a "Googlist".... (0.00 / 0)
These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot  whiteyspherean will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated.

--Thomas Paine, The Crisis



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It is an affront to treat falsehood with complaisance. (0.00 / 0)


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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I'm being assaulted by the undefined. Ooooh. Teh paine! (2.00 / 1)
WTF is plastic and non-plastic. You're making shit up.

Sorry I'm getting to you. A little Vuduism goes a long way.


Yur being examined not assaulted, except by yur own ridiculous vanity, O great Teacher. Thanks for proving my thesis. (3.00 / 1)
plas·tic (plstk)
adj.
1. Capable of being shaped or formed: plastic material such as clay. See Synonyms at malleable.
2. Relating to or dealing with shaping or modeling: the plastic art of sculpture.
3. Having the qualities of sculpture; well-formed: "the astonishing plastic beauty of the chorus girls" (Frank Harris).
4. Giving form or shape to a substance: the plastic forces that create and wear down a mountain range.
5. Easily influenced; impressionable.
6. Made of a plastic or plastics: a plastic garden hose.
7. Physics Capable of undergoing continuous deformation without rupture or relaxation.
8. Biology Capable of building tissue; formative.
9. Marked by artificiality or superficiality; synthetic: a plastic world of fad, hype, and sensation.
10. Informal Of or obtained by means of credit cards:

Didnt scientists invent plastic? And you don't even know what it is?

[:o)
 


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Googlism assaults OO. OO waits. (2.00 / 1)
My point proved. None of your definitions fits that hole you left in your sentence with the word "plastic."

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Nonsense. Explain what you mean by that hole I left in my sentence. I've explained what I meant (4.00 / 1)
I've explained it elsewhere, too. Oblique criticism is nonsense.

"Religion" "Science" and "Atheism" are shaped, molded, impressionable concepts twisted this way and that, made to be whatever the mind wants them to be, useable for many purposes, good and evil. They are all pure products of the mind. They are not "reality" but only an attempt at symbolic presentation.

Like money as a representation of "value."

They are all illusion.


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Well, gee, what happens when the word "illusion" is plastic then, O guru? (5.00 / 2)
Mate, mate.

(I don't know how many times I've been down this road with wannabe Buddhists. If it's all illusion, then so is illusion illusionary. cf Bertrand Russell on self-referential statements.)


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Well, there you have it, (3.00 / 1)
Mr. O. I mean that seriously.

Might Bertrand Russell have been a Buddhist?

I mean, really....


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Yes, I imagine a Buddha statue with an incredible tracery of math symbols overhead. (4.00 / 1)

What were those, New Yorker cartoons like that?

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Yes. A++ for the "Teh Great Teacher" (5.00 / 1)
Otvos makes an intelligent statement, and it doesnt matter that he "believes" he is making a n entirely different point relating to his "superior" intellect.

If it's all illusion, then so is illusion illusionary.

RIOTOUS!

SAINTS WIN!!!


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