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Volcker Up! Geithner Down! Bernanke Out?

by: donkeytale

Fri Jan 22, 2010 at 17:44:26 PM EST


The Massachusetts special election has electrified the moribund Demotards in more ways than one.

Too bad, eh "lefties," that the impetus for this sudden windshift blew in entirely from the "centrist" "independents" who elected a right-tilting Republikkkan in the so-called liberal bastion of the US of A-Holes?

I know, I know......Failreft, of course, predicted this outcome....man, that guy is the fucking Nostradamus of the Whiteysphere.

So, who you taking anyway, dude? Aints (-3.5) vs Viqueens and Dolts (-7.5) vs. (Bennie and the) Jets? Spill it.... I need the dinero, bad, to cover my losses on the Haiti earthquake. Forever the bleeding heart MSM-believing optimist, I took the under....

Brown, by virtue of his nifty work from the freethrow line has instantly become the defacto front runner for the Republikkkan Presiditzial nomination in 2012. The nomination is now his to loooose. Bet on it.

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Today, Senators Boxer and Feingold called for the dumping of Bernanke as Fed Reserve Chief, stating that he represented the failed policies of the past. Bernie Sanders has also objected from the left, along with Merkley of Oregon, who joined with several right wing Senators of the R'ist-persuausion to put the confirmation in doubt.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01...

Wall Street, which dislikes uncertainty more than it favors the policies of either political machine, has watched the Dow drop like a rock since Tuesday, which not coincidentally, was also the day the World Ended for demotardic dreams of national healthcare.

donkeytale :: Volcker Up! Geithner Down! Bernanke Out?
Wall Street is onto something here, because the Demotards are suddenly awake and reacting, twitching all over like electro-shocked cadavers, showing some signs of something resembling life, motivated no doubt by the clearly populist tinge which led the "more-liberal-than-average" Taxachusettians to reject a lousy [female] candidate possessing every conceivable built in pre-electoral advantage known to (wo)man for a more charismatic [male] candidate who appeared to be goodlooking as well as glib, but hardly anybody can say for sure.

State Senate to White House with a brief stopover on Capitol Hill?

If any of this sounds familiar, think back to the last time a lousy [female] candidate for an important office came into a race loaded with all the advantages and proceeded to get "unexpectantly" trounced.....what is it about all these lousy [female] candidates, anyway? You just had one in upstate NY drop out of a race for a congressional seat that was held by her party since approximately the same time Caesar got et by two bruties, or wtf.

Anyway, enuff of the female candidate bashing, yr obdient servant never stoops that low. Thats Byron's job. Even the scintillating Claire McCaskill from the Probama camp is not out in favor of Bernanke's re-selection. She's having second thots. And so is Harriet Reid, for that matter. Women. Jeesh....

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Geithner is down and almost out, too, his big-easy-on the big banks theory replaced by Paul Volcker's big-bang-on the big banks theory.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

What Volcker wants is for the big banks either to act like safe, boring commercial banks in order to remain protected by the Fed or, if they choose to act like investment banks they looose all Fed backstopping when their gambling ways lead them into bankruptcy.

Et tu, Mssrs. Glass and Steigal?

Presidit Obama, all of a suddenly, has decided to announce his support of Volcker's policy three days after last Tuesdaze wake up call, even though his policy switch to tougher banking regulations ha sbeen in the works since December.

Why not fire Geithner too, Mr. Presidit? This would make a nice matching set of sacrificial economists alongside the dumping of Bernanke.

I think Mr. Volcker would fit rather well in either chair.

Plus, he'd make a good pivotman for the WH 2 on 2 half court team....a lumbering George Mikan-type giant, but he can set a thundring pick, no doubt.

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And in closing, healthcare reform is dead. Presidit Obama speaks about salvaging the pieces of the legislation that garner broad bisexual support. Uhhh, which pieces are those, Sir?

The semi-colons or the Pyrrhiods?

Maybe we can pass a bill to subsidize coffins for the hundreds of thousands without health insurance who will die bankrupt in the years to come for lack of health insurance.

This special election has positively been the best thing to happen to US politics since gay Republikkkans turned an underage page in 2006 and lost their dicks in the airport mens' room keyhole.

I feel so invigorated I might need to splash cold water on mine.

Tentpole!

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It sez here....Jets vs Vikes in teh Super Bowl....with the miraculous (3.00 / 1)
BrINT Farve throwing the game looosing pick in overtime.

J.E.T.S.



I predicted that you would back my prediction, Super....take that, Failreft! (4.00 / 1)
[:o)

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those Jets are scrappy (3.00 / 1)
I'm not a fan. But despite conventional thinking that the Colts are just too powerful on offense, that scrappy Jet defense is going to put the hurt on Indy where it matters most. Their passing game.

And then yeah, Favre throws the traditional pick in OT.

Fuck the Saints. The Minny D is gonna be munching on Brees' kneecaps and ankles all night. I predict...Shockey acts like an ass :o)

"May we live long and die out"


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Agree. This smells like an upset if the Jets get a few breaks like against SD (0.00 / 0)
and a few INTs. They need to pound the ball on the ground against the Colts D and keep Manning off the field.

[ESPN jock schtick alert]

The Saints/Vikes could really go either way. I'm actually a liflong packers fan so naturally hate Minny but my dad got a bet down on Favre?minny winning teh SB at 10/1 (he turned out to be more of a Farve fan than a Pack fan in his 80s, go figure) so I'm rooting for him more than I am for the Queens.

Both teams have a history of playoff choking. Home field could be huge tho in the Superdome. That place will be LOUD.

Man, I would really luv to be in the Qtr Saturday night....now that will be some excellent NFL action....too bad my playing daze are over...had to hang em up...too much brain damage suffered over the course of a long career of many wins and losses...about .500 overall

[:o)


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Hahahahahahahaha... (4.67 / 3)
...that was a pleasure to read.

The voters merely punished the party with the power to fuck up their lives.  It's not 3-D chess.  Utterly predictable outcome except to the smartest guy in the universe too busy writing Nobel acceptance speeches and kissing Snowe and LIEberman's asses.  He might be bright, but I think it's simply the sun reflecting off those HUGE tin ears of his.  Now it seems those ears of his are picking up HBO.  The People to Barack...do you read us, Barack?

Every poll I've seen shows overwhelming public support for a public option...even polls taken in the summer when the teabag / town hall crazies were dominating the news cycles and the White House was out to lunch.  

60 votes blah, blah, blah...
Joe LIEberman, blah, blah, blah...
Obstructionist Republicans, blah, blah, blah...

The election was never about Coakley or Brown.  It was a referendum on President Capitulate, America's first deaf president.


I see Barack diving under that huge Presidential desk (4.00 / 2)
There's no solution from his perspective: you either have to go against your campaign donors (can't do that) or go against your base (that ain't working either).

There's plenty of room under there, probly room for Nancy and Harry too.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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So, Failreft, AKA the "smartest guy in the Universe" is now writing Nobel acceptance speeches for a living? Good for him...bout time he escaped cubical droneworld..... (4.00 / 2)
That election was totally and completely blown (pun intended) at the local level, dude. That chick made only 19 public appearances, dissed Fenway and Curt Schilling and is boring and fugly, to boot. Sorry. But women are held to a different standard...they can be dumb as long as they are not boring and fugly. If boring and fugly, ambition and drive are required. And you have to know Red Sox baseball, at least superficially, in order to get elected dogcatcher anywhere in New England.

The election clearly appears to be a centrist caper, not a lefty caper, in any event. The left still will not get fed, so dont get too excited here.

But keep believing the Nader Revolution is wright around the corner, 4ky.....the good news for you is there were no exit polls so its open season on two bit theorizing [projection alert]...but if anything, I think yur wright on the election was about tossing out whichever bums were in charge. Wasnt ideologically motivated at all. More of change coming from the center, post ideologically motivated, if anything.

Poisonally, I think people were more disgusted by the backroom Medicaid deal that was given to Nebraska to secure the 60th vote, myslef...

The Massachusettsians already have their own public option, I believe. So coverage wasnt really the issue at all for them.

But this is in no way a defense of Obama, who will learn from this debacle and turn populist with an independent centrist twinge.

Unless you think Volcker is a leftist?

Reality here tho is that Coakley choked on it, dude....Just like Hilliary choked on it before her.

Women, at least of the boomer generation, don't seem to possess the necessities for the big time.



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It's like the voters of Massachusetts... (4.00 / 3)
...were punishing the Ghost of Teddy for having supported Obama in the first place (Uh, which Democratic candidate won the Mass primary? -- the one with the boobs, right? -- just sayin'.)

It seems that the good people of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts are a lot less sentimental about ownership of a political seat than Chris Matthews and the rest of the purveyors of the conventional wisdom seem to think they are (or should be.)  


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one pair of boring boobs beat one boring boob in the primary. So what? The boob who lost was TO THE LEFT of the pair of boobs who lost Tuesday....d'uh (2.00 / 1)
This election result wasnt anything resembling a victory for anything resembling a leftist. Which less and less you guys resemble every day.

Mike Capuano was his name and here are his endorsements.

http://mikecapuano.com/pages/e...

Solidly left. Won 28% of the primary vote. To the centrist candidate who gout trounced by the Republikkkan. So tell me again Failreft, how is this election encouraging for the left?

You and 4ky are cheering the sinking of the Liberal Titanic simply because you are stuck in steerage but yur just so damn glad the swells on the topdeck are going to drown, too...

RIOTOUS!  


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Fantasy fake leftist, compare Capuano & Coakley positions (4.00 / 1)
side by side and tell us one was meaningfully to the left of the other. I.e., and as usual, put up or shut up with this bullshit.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Working Class Spoke. Will Obama Listen? (4.50 / 2)
My prediction: no. What's yours?

The Working Class Has Spoken. Will Democrats Listen?
by Tula Connell, Jan 21, 2010

Massachusetts voters sent a strong signal to Washington lawmakers Tuesday that they want results-and aren't seeing any. Not on health care reform, not on job creation and not on fixing the nation's economy.

Voters also sent another powerful message for Democrats: Ignore the working class at your peril. . . .

These results puts a lie to the corporate media spin that Democrats have gone "too far" in pushing a reform agenda.
Nor was the election result about health care reform. Brown actually lost among the 59 percent of voters who picked health care as one of their top two voting issues (50 percent for Coakley and 46 percent for Brown). Voters for Brown (55 percent ) were less likely to cite health care as a top issue than were voters for Coakley (66 percent).

The election also should be a wake-up call for those in Washington who support taxing working families' health care. Voters who thought their health care would be taxed voted by 64 percent for Brown, while those who did not think their health care would be taxed voted by 54 percent to 40 percent for Coakley.

Our polling results show the election was not an endorsement of a Republican agenda or a call to abandon health care reform. Voters strongly disapprove of the job being done by congressional Republicans (26 percent approve and 58 percent disapprove), a much lower rating than they give to congressional Democrats (37 percent approve and 51 percent disapprove).

Other polls show the need for Democrats in Congress to take immediate action to create jobs, reform health care, stop catering to Wall Street and address the needs of America's working class. As John Judis wrote, the election showed Democrats have lost ground primarily among white working and middle-class voters and senior citizens.

The Suffolk University poll in Massachusetts...singled out two white working-class towns, Gardner and Fitchburg, as bellwethers. Obama won Gardner, where Democrats hold a 3-1 registrations edge, by 59 percent to 31 percent in 2008. Brown won it by 56 percent to 42 percent. Obama won Fitchburg, with a similar Democratic edge, by 60 percent to 38 percent in 2008. Brown won it by 59 percent to 40 percent. That suggests a fairly dramatic shift among white working-class voters.

Summarizing the findings from election night polling conducted by Research 2000 Massachusetts Poll, MoveOn.org said the results show voters worry that Democrats in power "have not done enough to combat the policies of the Bush era."

http://blog.aflcio.org/2010/01...

Unfortunately, I see it as N'Orleans-Indy Superbowl. Would LUV to see Vikes win, and I'm tired of Indy, but, no . . .

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


Will donkeytale listen? (3.67 / 3)
These poll results fly in the face of his diary and comments:

Too bad, ey "lefties," that the impetus for this sudden windshift blew in entirely from the "centrist" "independents" who elected a right-tilting Republikkkan in the so-called liberal bastion of the US of A-Holes?

The election clearly appears to be a centrist caper, not a lefty caper, in any event.

No, all wrong, look at the poll results, i.e. the facts.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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You right about anything? Ha ha, you are of the right, thats for sure.... (0.00 / 0)
The candidate of the left, Mike Capuano, received 28% of the vote in the Demotardic primary. 28% of a Dems only contest. Maybe the Mass liberals arent trending as liberal as you and the also defeated AFLCIO wish to fantasize.

Here are Capuano's endorsements:

http://mikecapuano.com/pages/e...

AFLCIO endorsements, Teamster endorsements, pwoggie endorsements, all.

28% of the vote in the primary. Got smoked by Coak, dude.  Where are all those leftists in Mass again?

RIOTOUS!


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I listen to people who know and accept truth...that wouldnt be you FakeLeft (0.00 / 0)
I lived among the white working class in Mass for years dude. They tend to be conservative Dems, lotsa ethnic Roman Catholics, very racist. Not liberal at all. The AFLCIO nor the left didnt deliver shit in this election, starting with the primary. They/you have an endless need for scapegoats to cover their/yur own ineffectuality.

Here is Capuano's bio:

http://mikecapuano.com/pages/bio

he is a liberal pwog just like you. Wonder why he couldnt get out of the starting gate in the primary vs. Coakley if Mass is so liberal?

Was Coakley's primary win a vote against Obama too?

Yur simply narrowminded, unknowingly all-linking non thinking.  

Thanks for showing it all over again.


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More complete voter poll results here: (0.00 / 0)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Implications:

The polls suggest major disappointment with "the way Washington works"

yet more than 60% of total voters approve of Obama.

Congress, as usual, is seen as the culprit. Both congressional caucuses disapproved by large majorities of voters.

Oddly, congressional gridlock potential is enhanced with Brown's election representing the 41st Republikkkan Senate vote. Republikkkans not punished for obstructionism altho voters want them to work with Demotards and vice versa.

A plurality was displeased with the Federal health reform bill and its costs. Nothing in the poll suggests the majority of voters favor a public option or a stronger govt role in healthcare. Brown campaigned on less taxes and less spending in the healthcare reform bill.

White blue collar voters trended away from Demotards, but leaned to the populist right, not left.

Failreft, Supersoling and 4kdtongue drew erroneous conclusions from the vote based on their bias, as usual.



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I read the election differently....its bogus to compare mcCain v Obama 2008 and (0.00 / 0)
Coakley v Brown 2010 as Brown v Obama. Like comparing home run records from different eras at triple A vs. Big Leagues.

Doesnt work that way. Clearly, Coakley was a bad candidate. A very bad candidate, and a female much like Hiliary (irony inetnded). Not a retail politician of any ability at all, while Brown appears to be quite good at that level. I'd like to see Brown elevated to run against Obama in 2012. Then we could compare. And Brown really has as good a chance as anybody on the R side. They have no one else at the moment. Pyrrhiod. Romney cant get out of the primaries and Palin cant get out of herslef. Huckabee? Dead as those cops in washington his pardon helped kill...

Obviously, there was a throw the bums out feel to the election, but there was a lot more involved, too.

The AFLCIO is not going to give you anything like objective analysis but I'll accept that the working class is hurting and voted against the incumbent party candidate, because they had no real reason to do so, given a candidate who didnt even campaign...and doesnt appeal to working class truck drivin macho values at all.

However, it goes without saying that Republikkkans clearly wont provide the working class anything except more of the same assfucking they've been sticking up the working class heinie since Reagan. So, yeah, sure: Demotards ignore the working class at their peril but the working class also vote Repubilkkkan at their own peril.

The white working class are trending to the right. Yawn. This is not news. See Mussolinis Italy, Hitlers Germany, Reagans US, and post-Reagans US.  


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Obama's switch to favoring health benefits tax instead of tax on the rich (0.00 / 0)
apparently was a very big deal. This was a hard times election, and hitting hard up people up for even more taxes is a candidacy and party killer. Yeah, Coakley was not a great candidate, but that image crap matters a lot more when times are good, and they're not.

Anyway, I more or less agree with this union guy:

Hey, Democrats, Remember Us?
by Jeff Crosby, Jan 22, 2010

"Jeff, you guys at the Union Hall aren't listening to us! You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. We're fighting the benefits tax, and now you're telling us to vote for someone who will tax our benefits! The guys here are voting for Scotty Brown."

That was just one of the calls and e-mails that I received during the week before the Senate vote in Massachusetts. An AFSCME delegate to our labor council calculated the impact of the Obama tax on union plans and e-mailed us all to "Vote Brown!"

For a year and a half, we campaigned against the tax on our health care benefits. We trudged through neighboring New Hampshire with fliers explaining that Sen. John McCain wanted to fund health care expansion by a benefits tax.

Conservative members of my local Executive Board were adamant in saying the outcome of our health care campaign would be a tax on working people to extend coverage to poor people. Recognizing a classic Republican "wedge issue," we argued that those without insurance include our own children. We could win a plan to tax the wealthiest and cut into the blood money of the health care profiteers.

Ultimately, we were wrong. In the last week of the Coakley campaign, the papers were full of the story: "Obama Supports "Cadillac Tax."  Sen. John Kerry cited an MIT economist who said the tax would increase wages for grateful working stiffs. I can usually figure out which chalkboard equation the classical economists are fondling: Absent merely life itself, they present a circular logic that proves itself. But the MIT argument escaped me.

We fought back hard. Coakley opposed the tax, but everyone figured she'd vote for it. The exemptions and improvements negotiated by AFL-CIO President Trumka and others were heroic-and they helped. We heard the outcome of the negotiations Thursday night. My local had a flier in the shop Friday afternoon, the last workday before the Tuesday election because of the King Holiday. Hardcore union activists gritted their teeth and hit the phones for 1,500 labor council calls.

Too late. Coakley won Lynn and Boston, but lost the union vote by 3 percent. . . .

The tax wasn't the only issue that demobilized Democratic support. A shrinking health care plan, Obama's support for charter schools, the Afghanistan escalation, the Honduras coup, massive E-Verify firings of undocumented workers, the disappearance of the Employee Free Choice Act, criticisms from the black caucus for ignoring economic issues-all contributed. An angry black minister in Boston's Mattapan neighborhood told Coakley campaigners: "We don't know who she is. She never came here." The weak stimulus was defended by the Goldman Sachs economic advisers who helped design the financialization fraud that brought us to the brink of a depression. How long can you live off the Lily Ledbetter Bill and the appointment of Labor Secretary Solis?

The "Kumbaya" of the Democrats wins them nothing. Months of touchy-feely from Democratic Sen. Max Baucus compromised away most of the health care reform features we wanted. Yet Democrats received further attacks from Republicans for their "partisanship"-and not a single Republican vote. . . .

It's as though Obama advisers crafted a systematic plan to unravel the president's coalition. They succeeded.

There was no outpouring for a right-wing agenda in Massachusetts. Brown only received 50,000 votes more than McCain. But Coakley received 850,000 fewer votes than Obama. The Republican based remained energized. The Democratic base and independent supporters stayed home. . . .

Coakley spent time raising money from insurance lobbyists in Washington instead of campaigning in Mattapan because that's the way the system works. Obama listened to an MIT economist instead of us-about our own benefit plans-because that's often the way the Democratic Party works. Neo-liberalism reigns, money flows from and to those with power, and extremist free market ideas have permeated every corner of public life. Many national Democrats will conclude this election was lost because Democrats were-you guessed it-"too left." The AFL-CIO election night polling shows they are wrong.

Would an aggressive labor-populist campaign have won this election? I think so. Of course, it's hard to say. One thing is certain-you don't build the kind of country we want by putting lipstick on a pig or by reconciling the irreconcilable.

http://blog.aflcio.org/2010/01...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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The union deal to eliminate the tax for 8 yrs on union members and tax everyone non-union (0.00 / 0)
was a big deal, too. It cuts both ways.

Minority and youth voters who backed Obama stayed home in droves, unmoved apparently by a drab, middle aged white woman with zero retail political skills who relied entirely on ads, many of them negative and did hardly any public campaigning.

So, yeah, youve got a bad economy, you've gotta a bad politician, you gotta an outta touch political machine. You have a lot of factors, none positive for "liberals" or "traditional leftists".

You can believe all the woulda coulda shoulda from the AFL-CIO but I'd take that with a large dose of salt. This is after the fact spinning, butt covering. If anyone has egg on their face here along with the Senate Demotards its the AFL-CIO. They backed Capuano and got badly clobbered in the opening round.

If this was a white working class revolt then what does that say about AFL-CIO clout? The white working class is supposedly their constituency.

THEY cut a backroom deal for their members just as much as Nelson cut a backroom deal for Nebraska and Landrieu cut a back room deal for Louisiana.

 


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Massachusetts AFL-CIO didn't support any candidate in the primary (0.00 / 0)

http://www.massaflcio.org/prin...

It wasn't about personality or gender either, clueless.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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Looks like it liked Coakley & Capuano about equally, (0.00 / 0)
and had serious misgivings about the other two guys, who finished third and fourth in the primary:

Each of these candidates claimed steadfastly to be a committed friend to the Labor Movement. Both Congressman Capuano and Attorney General Coakley have proven such during their time holding public office, and have pledged to be with labor on each of its major issues - most notably the Employee Free Choice Act and labor's key principals for health care reform. Khazei and Pagliuca both support both measures and seemed generally very supportive of labor's issues, however Khazei went out of his way to denounce expanded gaming and expressed a desire to tax "luxury" health insurance plans, and Pagliuca expressed concern over the card-check portion of the Employee Free Choice Act.


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Now we're going in circles....look at this link [again]. I posted it above (0.00 / 0)
either Capuano lied or he was heavily endorsed by the largest AFL-CIO member unions, Teachers union, Postal workers union, UAW, social activist groups (including black women for Obama), even teh Teamsters.

http://mikecapuano.com/pages/e...

You calling me clueless is funny, Failreft. Coming from you, thats a supreme compliment. Thank you.

You can make believe whatever little sliver of propaganda makes whatever argument you arent advancing: its all Obama's fault.

Interesting, the electorate is now more polarized on Obama than even they were on Clinton. Polarization is a boon for the right, dude. Bet on it. Overall, Obamas rating is similar to Reagans first yr and less than Bush.  

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125...

Reality: The Dem candidate sucked, the backroom Senate deals sucked, the economy sucks, the AFL-CIO sucked (didnt get out enuff vote), and yes, Obama's performance has sucked. He needed to take charge of the looosers in teh Senate and in teh Treasury Dept. These are his two biggest failings.  

The populist right has won for now, that much is clear. Healthcare reform is dead. Obama now going populist right in response. That sucks too. All in all, there is nothing here, not one single thing positive for leftists.

regardless of how you feel about Obama. NeoLeftists still have the whitey populist option, but thats already become a rightwing meme....

 


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And a similar list for coakley: (0.00 / 0)
http://www.marthacoakley.com/a...

The evidence is overwhelming: neither was 'the candidate of the left'.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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This is Coakleys list AFTER the primary...notice she even has CAPUANO's endorsement on her list, knucklehead (0.00 / 0)
Capuanos list was BEFORE the primary.  

Head to head the majority of union members endorsed him. Its illogical (which is why you make this argument) that he'd maintain endorsements after he was, uhhhm, beaten when he was no longer running.

After she won the primary and went into the general against Brown they switched to her. This is called politics dude.

Would like some cookies and milk with yur lesson today, too? I think Socrates gives u 2 much credit as a 12 yr old.

So now you are saying labor unions are not "the left"?

Who is the "left" then in yur opinion? And why arent they running and winning if the country is such fertile ground for leftism?


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And Martha Coakley expired pre-primary election page (0.00 / 0)
showed lots of endorsements from labor groups, just like Capuano's, which still exists. Here's one pre-primary labor endorsement of Coakley that by itself is a fifth of the total collected by Capuano:

SEIU State Council Represents 60,000 Members Across Massachusetts; Council declares that Coakley will be strongest advocate for Massachusetts' workforce in Washington

For Immediate Release: October 15, 2009



For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Rather than play this silly game of who had the most endorsements when (0.00 / 0)
especially since Capuano claimed more than all the others combined, why not address the pertinent questions, y'know, for once....stretch yur mind abit, it wont hurt, promise.

So now you are saying labor unions are not "the left"?

Who is the "left" then in yur opinion? And why arent they running and winning if the country is such fertile ground for leftism?



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You lied when you said Capuano was 'the candidate of the left' (2.00 / 1)
in order to make a bullshit 'voters don't like the left' point. All your follow-up comments have been obfuscation of your initial lie.

If I'm wrong, and you sincerely believe Capuano was to the left of Coakley, show evidence of that.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
More of yur typical evasion and misdirection, mudslinging instead of a reasoned response (0.00 / 0)
You do this because you have no reasoned response or you are too afraid to face the truth of the predicament the Left and the NeoLeft.

I repeat my questions:

So now you are saying labor unions are not "the left"?

Who is the "left" then in yur opinion? And why arent they running and winning if the country is such fertile ground for leftism?



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You lied, I exposed it, & now you're FAILING to change the subject (2.00 / 1)


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Taking the favourites of course...how very republikkkan of you... (0.00 / 0)
[:o)

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Donkeytale fantasizes, fairleft predicts. (4.00 / 1)
Unfortunately, I see it as N'Orleans-Indy Superbowl. Would LUV to see Vikes win, and I'm tired of Indy, but, no . . .

Sometimes you have to face hard truths, based on expert opinion, rather than get all fantasy fakeleft bullshitty.



For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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good call, Fairleft (4.00 / 1)
I honestly didn't see this outcome, and I (unfortunately sometimes) know a little about the NFL.

"May we live long and die out"

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Yes, picking the # 1 seeds at home straight up is always difficult....I suppose yur a lifelong Yankee fan too? (0.00 / 0)
as well as a rock ribbed Republikkkan....

[:o)

You have to pick 'em against the spread, dude. This ain't little league here. This RL. See the point spreads in the dairy above. Yu broke even. I dont charge vigourish...

OK. So who do you like Saints v Colts? Early line is Colts (-6). Over/under 56 1/2.

I gotta believe the over line is gonna move closer to 60. Conventional wisdom predicts a high scoring game.

I'm taking the Saints and the points, of course. Yes, a purely sentimental pick. And the over seems to be a lock.

So give me NO (+6) plus the over for a double play, Guido.


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Making correct predictions is leftist (0.00 / 0)
Making wrong predictions based on emotional allegiance is charming, but only in the very young. Don't mix up predicting with who you want to win. Reread my prediction and I made that distinction clear, but you failed to catch on.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Whatever. You broke even against the spread, just like me. (4.00 / 1)
And I know all that rubbish about not being sentimental. Thats my business life. This is playsure...so allow me to act like a pffoolish youngun over a childs game, OK

I'm not making a living at this.

My bet on teh Jets was based solely on a love for the steepest underdog. I also fell hard for the 1973(?) Mets who won the NL East at 82-80, then knocked off the extremely hated BIG RED MACHINE in the playoffs, a humumgous upset of historic proportions. The Mets were most certainly doomed to get thrashed by the threepeat 70s A's juggernaut but I backed them wholeheartedly anyway. And they went 7 games, if I remember. Seaver and Koosman. Ah, the agony of defeat....

My bet on the hated Vikings (I'm a lifelong Packers fan) was based solely on my dad's bet which was based solely on his sentimental attachment to ex-Packer BrINT Favre who shure enuff, threw another terrible playoff pick at the end of regulation when he only needed to gain 5-8 yards to get into position for a game winning FG.

F'ing coon-ass looooser...altho I kinda wouldve liked to see him nab SB before he retires....but the future belongs to Aaronn Rodgers, bet on it.

[:o)


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And of course, the 1969 Jets were the greatest upset of them all, still to this day (0.00 / 0)
Clay v Liston I and Ali v Foreman also pretty huge upsets....I was too young to bet that first fite but cleaned house (4-1 odds, huge in boxing) on the rope-a-dopa.

And that was definitely a political bet. Those were the daze when sports and politics truly meshed in the public mind....


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I'll tell you later about colts saints (0.00 / 0)
Definitely want the saints to win.

I'll listen and read the experts, my favorite is Hub Arkish (sp?), and mebbe tell you my prediction later.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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OK, but I want it against the spread, too. (0.00 / 0)


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That's fantastic nooze about Bernanke opposition! (5.00 / 1)
My blogging here is having some effect!! Wish you'd joined me in (or even commented on) my li'l anti-Bernanke crusade:

Only ONE Democrat (Merkley (D-OR)) Says No to Bernanke
by: fairleft
Wed Dec 16, 2009 at 16:43:27 PM EST

http://www.pffugeecamp.com/sho...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


Hide under the desk Obama, you can't really do anything (5.00 / 2)
or your corporate campaign money will dry up. Hope that ain't so, but here's a guy expressing the Democrats' dilemma exactly right:

Massachusetts again reminds us why the Democrats are such losers.

They are terminal schizophrenics, driven mad by the corporate dominance of American politics. They cannot govern and make significant change at the same time because the system is geared to make this impossible.

Somehow, this core problem must be fixed, or we are lost as a nation, and probably as a species.

The currently prescribed role of the Dems is to be the "Party of the People." But they can't attain or retain office without cash flow from the very corporations that are the people's worst enemy. . . .

Like Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter and Lyndon Johnson before him, Barack Obama has been astonishingly effective in one thing---alienating those who most avidly supported him. His number one enemy has been the base that put him in the White House.

http://www.counterpunch.org/wa...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


That Counter Punch article... (4.00 / 3)
...should be read in its entirety!

Thanks for the link.


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It's been interesting to read around (4.00 / 1)
the lefty (bwaaaa....hahahahahahahahah!!) bloggiespherical neighborhood. The diehards are manning the bailing buckets like maniacs as their members finally get around to waking up and joining the real world.

These guys mirror and parrot the excuses being floated by the democrats for why they've once again failed monumentally. Pointing blame in every direction except the one that counts, at that shiny new gunman in the Oval Office.

"May we live long and die out"


Capuano was the only true pwoggie in the race who got smoked by Coakley in (0.00 / 0)
the Demotardic primary by 47-28%. Damn those libertards really went out of their way to embarrass Obama here. Twice. RIOTOUS!

Yur sayin if the Libs hadnt forced Coakley to beat their best boy in the primary then Capuano would've easily won the general election against Brown? I think I'm the juan laffing now dude....but nice fantasy narrative, I'll give you that much.

And of course thas all "Shiney's'" fault....

RIOTOUS!



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Guess who had all the corpy money and who had none? (0.00 / 0)
No one denies that the left candidate with almost no money typically loses to the establishment-supported Dem candidate with tons of corporate money. Ignoring the critical role of money in the terminally (i.e., dead, get it?) corrupted political system is boring (but oh so indicative of y-a-w-n-n-n the standard CNN/mainstream point of view). You really really need to grock that article from counterpunch that I linked to above, just to raise your schtick out of the doldrums:

The currently prescribed role of the Dems is to be the "Party of the People." But they can't attain or retain office without cash flow from the very corporations that are the people's worst enemy. . . .

http://www.counterpunch.org/wa...


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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Was there a significant difference between Coakley & Capuano? (0.00 / 0)
Their political positions seemed similar, they're both  longtime meat and potatoes politicians. And they both accept plenty of corpy money. Anyway, I was right about Coakley collecting a lot more money than Capuano. . . .

As of Nov. 18, Coakley's campaign had raised nearly $4.2 million, followed by Khazei at $2.16 million, Capuano at $2.15 million, and Pagliuca at $546,000. Capuano transferred $1.2 million from his congressional campaign account into the Senate account.

http://www.boston.com/news/loc...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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Do you even take the time to comprehend what you link to before spouting yur nonsense? (0.00 / 0)
No of course, not, didnt even bother reading the headline apparently.

Coakley's cash came from women from all fifty states. 2/3 of it came from humans sans peckers. 10% thru EMILYS list alone. She had to go all over the cuntry and relied almost totally on gender identity for her cash, not corpys, which are notoriously pecker dominated, doncha know....

BTW, Scott Brown was said to gain $1.3 mill online from small donors in one day. In yur parlance, was this also corpy money?

http://www.wbur.org/2010/01/12...

I guess these are all "corpy" donations because this an example of stealing directly from the Obama playbook and use the internet for lotsa small donations which in yur mind add up to corpy donations? Novel concept, that, using the internet...for anything besides blathering...

Yeah they must be corpy donors, since pretty much everybody works for a corpy of one sort or another. Even u. SO when you give money its also a corpy donation by yur own definition.

And now, thanks to a SCOTUS majority built thru decades of Republikkkan presiditzial hegemony, corpys are now free to make direct contributions in future political campaigns!

Even more evidence of the mountainous hole youve dug for yurslef, Failreft. Rotsa Ruck, refty.

Better just join the teabaggers now dude. Stop pretending. They are taking over an entire party. .ha Ha

Intersting schtick in Salon. Are the Baggers real or are they Memorex? FakeLeft meet FakePopulist...

http://www.salon.com/news/opin...

RIOTOUS!  


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So your answer is "No, I was bullshitting about that." (0.00 / 0)
There was no significant difference between Capuano and Coakley. And Capuano getting far fewer votes than Coakley had nothing to do with your false 'point' that Capuano -- former nondescript mayor of boring suburb Somerville --  was the 'left' candidate. Very funny, now go back to that Suffolk poll I blockquoted and find yahself some truth.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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What then was the reason? (0.00 / 0)
If they were virtually identical politically, why did she win and he not?

I mentioned here last week that I knew little about Capuano but that what little I did know seemed to show him to the left of Coakley.

Obviously we understand how the party has an arm in all of these congressional elections. They're not breaking down the doors of anyone who is outside the rotted centrist mold they impose on their handpicked and funded candidates.

Not that any of this matters at this level. No one was going to beat the republican in this instance. Not because more republicans or "teabaggers" voted for him. Or because he is somehow going to listen to them. But because it's all about being sick of Obama and the democrats across the political spectrum.

The hilarious part is that any of these people who are supposedly sending a message, actually still believe that there are significant differences between the two parties. They get angry and fed up (can't blame them for that) and then "send a message" by removing one party for the other. Over and over and over, decade after decade. Seemingly still unaware that all they are doing is feeding into their own misery and demise.

"May we live long and die out"


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Blame Rahm he decides who runs (0.00 / 0)
Isn't Rahm Emmanuel credited with picking whose going to run against who....

I have heard that Rahm is in the dog house...or at least not visible and David Axelrod is taking over...he's actually more "liberal" than Rahm....Maybe Rahm backed Coakley...he's always backing pro Israeli candidates or at least the most conservative of candidates which resulted in most of the Democrats actually being Republicans and screwing Obama's health care bill which today I hear is being stripped even of the pre existing condition guarantee....you have to be under 19 to be elegible for pre existing conditions.

I mean it's insane...what the bill started out as and how it ended up,


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the doghouse (0.00 / 0)
if Rahm is in the doghouse it's because Obama's image is taking a hit. Not because they now have only 59 votes compared to 60. Yah, Rahm has a hand in who runs and wins in these races. It could very well be that this is like a double reverse and they actually were hoping or engineering for this outcome. This way they're sort of off the hook for beating down the bill even further. It makes as much sense as anything else.

What I heard yesterday or the day before (they all run together anymore) was that Obama was enlisting the help of one of the people who managed his campaign and his national image. Is that Axelrod? I thought it was another, different person. Doesn't matter. They're plug and play yes men. Anyway, this person was on board now to do damage control! Haha! Wtf? There's damage alright :o) Goddamned brain damage....

"May we live long and die out"


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I think its Plouffe who's taking over Stu and yur being disingenuous about the 59 votes Super (0.00 / 0)
59 cant get you anything passed when the other 41 or unanimously opposed. I say its unconstitutional. Unfortuantely, its also traditional but in teh old daze it was used much more sparingly as a way to extend debate not kill bill. Primarily, because then you really had to stand there and yap away endlessly in order filibuster. Today its pure sham and shame. Its fake filibustering.

The Senate reule is the main problem that most people really have with Congress, or its the main solution depending on who is in power or out, but the Republikkkans now hold the record for most filibusters set in the 2006-2008 session and they appear to be equal or topping it in the 2009-2010 session.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01...


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All four of the main candidates seemed boring, conventional and (0.00 / 0)
non-populist. I don't know the details, maybe you saw something I didn't. I agree that the conventional thinkers at Democratic Party Senate Campaign Committee (or wtf it's called) and in the White House consistently make anti-populist and business-friendly candidate choices. And those folks are hard to elect.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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