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This essay will be about exposing some disinfo punks who pose as progressives. I am telling you all right here right now the truth about Larisa Alexandrovna, Brett Kimberlin, Brad Friedman, Cliff Arnebeck will someday become common knowledge in the zeitgeist. Once you see how blatantly full of it they are, you will realise that it's time to seek out real stories. We cannot necessarily count on the Justice Dept., the FBI, and other authorities to do the right thing. Maybe they will someday get off their asses and help save the planet. Until then, it's up to we the people to take back the zeigeist!
This domain was dedicated to David Weintraub, as I have written at the top of the webpage. The insidious astroturfers he took on were a "shadow government" running the Daily Kos with the full support of Markos Moulitsas Zuniga and his top administrators. Dave proved it. He found their secret website, where insidious, anti-democratic cretins decided which posts would be hidden and who would be banned. One of the chief ways Brad Friedman and Larisa Alexandrovna have gotten away with their disinfo is because they are protected by the Democratic Underground and Daily Kos, arguably two of the biggest "progressive" blogs of the last decade.
The head of the "shadow powers" at Daily Kos has been attorney Michael Fingerit. His username was MajorFlaw. He and his lackeys referred to them as the ugogs, the usual gang of grown-ups. MajorFlaw decided to target Dave after he had mince meat out of Sean Hannity and Mark Levin. MajorFlaw is what is referred to as a freeper troll. Let me show you how he operated through the Connell story. You will see how he multi-tasked and could easily play both sides of an issue in an effort to maintain an enigmatic status quo.
Someone put up a tinfoil diary which gave the Connell threatened by Rove hoax a positive slant. There was the predictable response.
Now check out how another funny picture is followed by MajorFlaw joining in on the well-deserved ridicule. I mean, you can check out that diary and see that in addition to the person selling the Connell hoax, he was insinuating GW Bush being behind Hinckley shooting at Reagan.
It is said that the best disinfo contains 80% truth or whatnot. I mean, who truly believes there are aliens? Or that the "Joos" control the world and did 9/11? I think there might be a yeti. I definitely believe that Danny Casolaro was onto something big and got murdered for it. I think things like the Connell hoax might not just be for grifting. I do believe there is disinfo deliberately placed in society and subsequently on the internet. Some of it is psychological operations. Some of it is the work of political operatives. I believe crazy stuff like with Michael Connell is put out there to be a limited hangout for the real stuff. It creates a tinfoil by association feel to the Danny Casolaro's of the world. Or even if it's grifting, then it is useful idiot material, as it is serving the psy-op return I just described. Look up limited hangout in the dictionary. Think about what is meant by tinfoil by association. These are not crazy ideas I am presenting.
Now let's see how Fingerit acted completely different on a separate thread pertaining to the same topic. You will see how he was running interference for easily proven disinfo provided by Alexandrovna.
Is Brett Kimberlin Really an Exonerated, Ex-Political Prisoner?
I wrote that diary. I went to DKos with an open mind after not only being banned from Democratic Underground. I had a 100 post and 5,000 view thread erased from a section where threads are lucky to get 10 posts and 200 views. The thing was still growing. You see good people, I am one of the top amateur, internet cybersleuths to hit the blogosphere the last several years. Freelance journalist Joe Lauria told Mark Singer that I had become a player as Prepostericity. DU should learn the old adage that the cover up can be worse than the crime. The reason I have plodded on as a trollbuster is because ultimately my opponents aren't too bright. Sure, they can force me to go the pockets of awareness route, but that is the only edge they have over me.
You can see in the body of the text that I dealt with the Michael Connell hoax. It is clear as day that Larisa Alexandrovna, Brad Friedman, Brett Kimberlin, and Cliff Arnebeck are up to their necks with credibility issues. Further down the thread, Larisa and MajorFlaw insinuated that I am Anonymous Army or someone else who haunted Andy Stephenson in his last days. I never heard of that disinfo blogger until after he died. You'll see later on how the sock puppet accusation is a common disinfo technique used by Larisa. She wants the readers to think any solid questions about her "reporting" are absurd and must therefore come from one stalker troll.
Now let's take a close look at why without a shadow of a doubt we can say that Larisa Alexandrovna is disinformation. Check out the part where I wrote about her claiming Michael Connell as her source. When I try to go to that link, it is coming up blank. The rest of her website is working. It's as if she has deleted her article titled, "One of my sources died in a plane crash last night." Here, let me blockquote what I copied and pasted from her website. It's that important.
I don't usually reveal sources, but I think this is incredibly important.....he had information that he was ready to share....
I have been to Mr. Connell's home. Mr. Connell has confided that he was being threatened, something that his attorneys also told the judge in the Ohio election fraud case. When I met with Heather, his wife, I did so carefully because of the threats he was getting.
I left a note for her in her mailbox and asked her to meet me in a local park near their home....
We'll leave her lying about the mailbox to the side. Just soak in what she said above. We're about to take a field trip to a Democratic Underground thread.
Larisa versus troubleinwinter
I'm gonna copy and paste their dialogue. It's that important in proving that Larisa Alexandrovna is either a disinformation writer or a mentally unstable hack who writes misinformation. She has had every opportunity to correct blatant untruths. The sequence grew off of a post by another person.
#10 MasonJar (Response to Original message): According to stories about the time (pre and post the airplane death)... Connell was getting ready to testify as to the illegitimate activies, which he had been a part of because at the time he had thought it his moral duty (Bush being such a Christian, as apparently are Connell and his wife.) However, by the time of his death he was going to blow the whistle (I guess he finally recognized the lack of Christian virtues in the Bushista) and was warned more than once against flying his plane. In fact if I remember accurately, Connell actually postponed one or two flights he had planned. This was murder pure and simple.
#47 Larisa (response to #10): not so... He was not warned to avoid flying and he did not postpone 2 flights as a result. He abandoned 1 flight because he experienced engine problems. I confirmed that with his wife before he died many months later. There was no other confirmed aborted flight and there were no canceled flights. There was never a threat on his person that I am aware of. The threat is - as I understand it - more like using the DOJ to go after him. That is not only plausible, I think it is probably likely. Just fyi
#106 troubleinwinter (response to #47): But Lala, unrepentant convicted serial bomber Brett Kimberlin submitted a sworn statement that he'd received information that Connell had his life threatened.
What do you mean, "There was never a threat on his person"? Your "friend", serial bomber, Brett Kimberlin's sworn statement of having received and transmitted the threat is attached to a court document submitted to the court by Arnebeck, and you know it.
I thought you were on top of this?
Did Kimberlin lie about the threat, as you seem to imply?
Did Kimberlin, a convicted perjurer, submit a perjured statement to the court? Did Arnebeck know that Kimberlin was a convicted perjurer and serial bomber when he submitted the statement to the court?
Please explain.
#108 Larisa (response to #106): wait... is that 2 or 3 degrees of separation? because if i meet someone a few times in the course of my work and that person years later makes a statement, i am clearly required to support what they and explain it to others... that about right? perhaps you can tell us why you are obsessed with this man? that i find really interesting. you go from Daily Kos to DU and all you do is talk about this guy. i am curious, why?
#112 troubleinwinter (response to #108): OK, lala. Let's for now pretend that you did not vouch for him and claim him a friend. Do you claim to have been following the case and are unaware of Kimberlin's affidavit about the threats against Connell submitted to the court?
Larisa, I thought you were an "investigative journalist"... I have never posted on Kos in my life. 'All I do is talk about this guy'? My four and a half years and nine thousand posts on DU are about this freak? Why make up this silly junk? Why don't you simply address the questions posed about the subject at hand instead of diverting?
You claim you were unaware of any threats, have claimed Kimberlin as a personal friend, are supposedly an investigative journalist on this story. Did Arnebeck know Kimberlin was a convicted perjuror a the time K's statement was submitted to the court? Did Arnebeck know that K was a convicted serial bomber? You are today, despite Kimberlin's sworn statement, unaware of Kimberlin's allegations of threats against Connell?
Could we please talk about the people involved in the case, rather than imaginings about me?
I find Kimberlin's claims and involvement in the case interesting. Why don't you?
#114 Larisa (response to #112): so you won't answer the question? as for talking about the people involved in the case, you don't seem interested, save for one person who you are obsessed with but won't explain why. i have no imagining about you. you make yourself perfectly clear. your imaginings about others, however, are fascinating. truly, i am very curious. and stop calling me Lala as though we had mutual respect and affection for one another. you are a person interested in something, but whatever it is, it has nothing to do with the truth. of that i have no doubt.
have a good night in K land.
#116 troubleinwinter (response to #114): Have you LOOKED- "There was never a threat on his person that I am aware of."
You are claiming that you are entirely unaware of Kimberlin's sworn declaration submitted to the court by Arnebeck???!! Wherein Kimberlin swore to have recieved information about threats against Connell??!!
How can this be?
I find the knowlege of such threat by Kimberlin to be of extreme interest. You do not (or are unaware of it). Arnebeck also found it of interest enough to submit a sworn declaration to the court.
You are more interested in me than the case and subject that you are supposedly reporting about.
Would you very much mind looking into the sworn declaration of Brett Kimberlin submitted to the court by Cliff Arnebeck relating to the receipt of information about threats against Connell?
Or would you prefer to talk about me?
#127 Name removed (response to #116): Deleted message... Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
Guess who has a screenshot? Yes, I am good at this. Thank you very much (kissing my own hand)
#134 troubleinwinter (response to #114): beyond your diversion asserting that I am "obsessed" with your proclaimed vouching for the unrepentant convicted serial bomber, I will try to answer what I think is your question:
(Larisa)"...is that 2 or 3 degrees of separation? because if i meet someone a few times in the course of my work and that person years later makes a statement, i am clearly required to support what they and explain it to others... that about right?
Well, here are your own words:
"but I know Brett"
"Anyway, I know him. I vouch for him."
"I said, I vouch for him, take it or leave it."
"I said, I vouch for him"
Taken from this very worthwhile thread: Uh-oh... THIS GUY!!!?
You apparently are close enough to "vouch" for him several times, but are unaware of his sworn declaration about threats against Connell, submitted to court by Arnebeck, a story you have been reporting on?!!!???
Golly gee! Maybe you should CALL Kimberlin (since you know him) and ASK him about the threats against Connell that he claimed under penalty of perjury to have been told of?
(As for the silliness about my calling you "lala", as do many others, some call me "trouble", for short. So what? I guess if you find this particularly interesting, which I do not, you would maybe wish to explain why you frequently address people as "hon". I think it's purely yet another diversion to avoid discussing the subject at hand.)
#157 olegramps (response to #114): Why don't you address what he has claimed?
#179 Larisa (response to #157): i have... the first 200 times he has claimed it... no joke, ask anyone who has followed this. he has no interest in the truth or facts. whatever his motive, and I think I know what it is, it is entirely personal and underhanded.
k?
#210 troubleinwinter (response to #47): Larisa, which way to you want it? What you said in December, or what you say now? Larisa in December:
Sat, 2008-12-20
By Larisa Alexandrovna
I have been to Mr. Connell's home. Mr. Connell has confided that he was being threatened, something that his attorneys also told the judge in the Ohio election fraud case. When I met with Heather, his wife, I did so carefully because of the threats he was getting.
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Not warned to avoid flying? Velvet Revolution claims that his life was in jeopardy in JULY, Arnebeck sought protective custody, and VR warned a close associate of Connell's not to fly. You have been unaware of all this???!!!
FROM VELVET REVOLUTION:
A tipster close to the McCain campaign disclosed to VR (Kimberlin) in July that Mr. Connell's life was in jeopardy and that Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife, Heather. VR's attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, notified the United States Attorney General , Ohio law enforcement and the federal court about these threats and insisted that Mr. Connell be placed in protective custody. VR also told a close associate of Mr. Connell's not to fly his plane because of another tip that the plane might be sabotaged.
A sworn declaration by Brett Kimberlin about having recieved a tip about the threats was submitted to the court (taken from court documents):
MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF PLAINTIFFS' MOTION FOR EXPEDITED
HEARING AND MEMORANDUM IN OPPOSITION TO NONPARTY MICHAEL CONNELL'S MOTION TO QUASH
On July 19, 2008, two days after this news conference that was widely disseminated within the blogosphere, an anonymous tipster, describing himself as beingwithin the McCain Presidential campaign, reported that Rove had threatened Michael Connell for the apparent purpose of intimidating him from giving truthful testimony against Karl Rove. See Declaration of Brett Kimberlin, Exhibit B, ΒΆ 3.
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When the tipster told them that Connell was being threatened by Rove, Arnebeck attempted to get federal protection for him. But none was provided. However, a federal judge allowed Arnebeck to depose Connell the day before the 2008 election. Connell's lawyers asked that all conversations relative to alleged intimidation by Rove be sealed by the court, a request the judge granted. The transcript of that deposition has not yet been made available, but Arnebeck discussed the meeting in detail for Scene. link
Larisa now:
He was not warned to avoid flying
There was never a threat on his person that I am aware of
Then Larisa, you seem utterly, completely unware of the subject you write about, or you are calling Kimberlin a liar (well, he IS a convicted perjuror). It doesn't explain how you knew something in December and un-know it now.
I rest my case, your Honour.
The Michael Connell threatened by Karl Rove story is what is referred to as a hoax. Just look at all the lies put out by Larisa Alexandrovna. Michael Connell never received any threats. He heard of them, but that's because VR's attorney Arnebeck and Kimberlin planted the idea into the public sphere. The FBI should investigate the Velvet Revolution! They should investigate Larisa Alexandrovna too! Go after Brad Friedman for questions while you're at it. Wtf is going on here? It smells like fraud!!!
It's also the kind of crap that turns real stories into also looking like crud. Brad and Brett first entered the scene with their Clint Curtis hoax. They brought in the image of some dude named Raymond Lemme being killed. They brought in the idea that Clint Curtis' dog was shot. This should all be investigated for fraud! If they can't cough up proof, then prosecute them! Enough with this disinfo bullshit. This kind of crap makes the Danny Casolaro story seem similar. Is that what this kind of crap is for, to create limited hangouts? Or is it for grifting purposes and just so happens to fulfill a useful idiot capacity? Who threatened Karl Rove? Force the Velvet Revolution to cough up the source who says Karl Rove threatened Connell, or let's all just fricken ignore Velvet Revolution, BradBlog, Larisa, Arnebeck, and others, and ostracise them from the zeitgeist. This bullshite must come to an end. Shit or get off the pot. Come up with proof or stfu.
Here are a couple links for folks who are interested in getting started on figuring out Danny Casolaro's Octopus story. In my previous entry, I provided a couple links concerning the current event of Jimmy Hughes being arrested for the Cabazon Murders. That appears to have been the result of heroics performed by one of the victim's daughters. The first link below is from the wayback machine.
THE OCTOPUS FILE by Phil Linsalata Columbia Journalism Review (Linsalata is a reporter for the St. Louis Dispatch)
Danny Casolaro nationalcorruptionindex.org |