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CODE PINK TURNS PRO WAR

by: Stu Piddy

Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 18:55:42 PM EDT


The anti-war group Code Pink, which rose to prominence with high-profile protests against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars over the past seven years, is softening its stance against the war in Afghanistan over concerns that a troop withdrawal could harm women's rights in the country.

"We would leave with the same parameters of an exit strategy but we might perhaps be more flexible about a timeline," Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin told the Christian Science Monitor. "That's where we have opened ourselves ... to some other possibilities. We have been feeling a sense of fear of the people of the return of the Taliban. So many people are saying that, 'If the US troops left the country, would collapse. We'd go into civil war.' A palpable sense of fear that is making us start to reconsider that."

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/re...

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Code Pink is about to say (it's already made up it's mind, it's just trying to soften any resistance by mentioning that it's "thinking" about changing it's stance)  that America needs to stay in Afghanistan to protect the Women there from the Taliban who the Americans brought to power in the first place.

So Code Pink thinks American soldiers and policy are  trying to help the women there, as if that has anything at all to do with why America is in Afghanistan, preparing to Attack Pakistan cities and maybe even Iran.

Code Dumb might be a better name, or Code Clown.

And people wonder why, I, for one am always attacking "liberals"...it's because they aren't liberals they are conservatives.

Code Pink is clearly Pro War, I think that's conservative.

I think that's fascistic.

If America would just leave the rest of the world alone, it would be a better place. If America hadn't gotten involved in Afghanistan when it was very secular, there wouldn't have been a 911 and Code Pink wouldn't have to worry about the Taliban who use a lot of American supplied weapons to kill Americans with.  

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CODE PINK TURNS PRO WAR | 45 comments
Sexist, girls only antiwar clubs don't make antiwar (0.00 / 0)
their number one priority. Code Pink had a corrupted soul from the start. Similarly with any exclusionist ethnic or gender-based 'antiwar' groups. The "we're special" aspect is the priority, not the antiwar-ness.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
no peace, no pussy (0.00 / 0)

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More on the side Code Pink backs (0.00 / 0)
This year the Afghanistan legislature passed a law that requires Shi'ite women to get permission from their husbands to go to school, visit a doctor, to work, and to do other ordinary activities. President Karzai, who was originally hand-picked by the United States, signed the legislation to advance his election chances within Shi'a areas. Government corruption is so extensive that even the U.S. State Department has condemned it. The recent "democratic" elections are still being contested because of massive fraud. War and drug lords are part of the government. One of Karzai's vice-presidential running mates, Mohammad Qasim Fahim, is a notorious human rights abuser. In many areas such as poverty rates, life expectancy, unemployment, child mortality, life expectancy, and lack of human rights, Afghanistan is near the worst in the world. Afghanistan is number one in opium production which funds most of the various Afghan factions in the ongoing war there.

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

Dumb. Thoroughly American. (0.00 / 0)

Fuck (3.00 / 3)
Even as an anti-feminist who thinks their organisation is needlessly antagonistic and sexist to men i think they've done a good job on the anti-war front.

This excuse is weird.

Yes the mainstream feminist groups have gone down this road long ago but RAWA has always opposed the US occupation and wants America out.  Also pre-invasion women were saying that the Taliban were an improvement over what had been before as they were big on security (as right wing nuts tend to be).

So on a factual basis the "protect the women" thing is a lie.  Not only were women better off with the Taliban than the US fundies being their lord protectors -- something almost all established feminists seem to want oddly -- a big patriarchal right-wing fundie knight in shining armor -- but the Taliban were better than the warlords that the US left in charge of Afghanistan following the last incident where the US stuck their noses in.

So i assume the miserable bitches at NOW and Feminist majority got to the Code Pink gals.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Their "We (heart) Obama" undergarments are showing. (0.00 / 0)
Either "Now that Dems have the missiles, war is cool" or "Fuck peace, Obama is dreamy."

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
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Peace (4.00 / 1)
I don't know what it was like under the Taliban...but there was peace...in most of the country...a peace is worth more than anything. People can live an breathe, babies can be raised no matter how restrictive the government. And peace ( (meaning the lack of OUTSIDE INVADERS) breeds more peace and eventually a relaxation of restrictions.

Internal peace is something else....

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Of course even if we take their excuses at face value (4.00 / 1)
and accept that women would be better off if the US stayed it is a calculation that it is better to kill off men so that women can be protected better.

It's also saying that Code Pink and the US have the right to decide the future of Afghanistan for good or ill.  That is fundamentally a principle in conflict with any anti-war sentiment I would think.

Code Pink are now in a bind saying troop levels should not be increased but also saying the war should go on.  Does that make sense on any basis?  If you're going to fight at least fight well.

It seems that the problem stems from Code Pink accepting the Afghan government's "official women" as representative of women in Afghanistan.  Of course its comical to think anyone would take the word of a man to be representative of all men in a country but somehow if you have a pussy that works.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/...

When Medea Benjamin stood up in a Kabul meeting hall this weekend to ask Masooda Jalal if she would prefer more international troops or more development funds, the cofounder of US antiwar group Code Pink was hoping her fellow activist would support her call for US troop withdrawal.

She was disappointed.

Ms. Jalhal, the former Afghan minister of women, bluntly told her both were needed.

So why are Code Pink giving the US puppet women a tongue bath and ignoring RAWA?  There's no mention of any of this on the CodePink site btw.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Code Pink wants the Rapist to Stay inside her (4.00 / 2)
What's happening is that Ms Jalhal is part of the wealthy classes. The Taliban...I assume are much more associated with the majoirity of the population which is not wealthy. Just as Chavez is, As Zelaya in Honduras is to some extent, as Castro is etc.

These people who represent the people are not capitalists.

The assumption of course is you need educated (wealthy) people to "rule" over the less educated.

That is WRONG. It is the "educated and wealthy" who are the problem. They are the ones who invaded Iraq....MISTAKENLY...based on their "INTELLIGENCE"...their wealth and education.

So Code Pink is really Code Red. Code War.

They are disgusting. They don't understand much.

Geez....all you have to do is pull out of these countries....it will be better for America and better for those countries.

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Their old petition unambiguously calls for immediate withdrawal (3.50 / 2)
http://salsa.democracyinaction...

"Now is the time for an exit strategy to end these wars."

"If we do not decide to disengage at once, ...."

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Would constituter a 180 turn around since this article (3.00 / 1)
http://www.alternet.org/story/...

The Military Hides Under the Skirts of Women to Justify War in Afghanistan

The Pentagon portrays Afghanistan as a moral battle to "protect" its women. Afghan women tell another story: more war equals suffering.

Jodie Evans is a co-founder of Codepink: Women For Peace.

Linked to from CodePink site and dated May 21, 2009.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Note CSM article says (0.00 / 0)
"say Ms. Benjamin and fellow cofounder Jodie Evans"

so this is not a split between the two

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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sent them an email asking for confirmation (4.00 / 4)
Medea Benjamin / Christian Science Monitor article

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/...

The CSM is quoting Medea Benjamin (and also references Jodie Evans) as going soft on the Afghan war on the basis of the on-going war apparently being good for women.  This seems to be a complete reversal from the position of the article by Jodie Evans about five months ago:

http://www.alternet.org/story/...

Is this article by the CSM truthful?
In general does CodePink subscribe to the idea that some war is good or that wars that protect women while continuing to kill men in large numbers are acceptable presumably on the basis that women's lives are worth so much more than men's lives?

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

July 8th on CodePink site RAWA article hosted (0.00 / 0)
http://codepink4peace.org/blog...

intro blurb by CodePink:

....and Mariam Rawi, a member of the Revolutionary Association of Women of Afghanistan working under a pseudonym, write this insightful critique of The Feminist Majority's support of the U.S. war in Afghanistan as well as the argument that war there is necessary to "rescue" Afghan people, especially Afghan women


"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.
Only other RAWA tag - this one from the Afghan tour mentioned in the CSM article (0.00 / 0)
http://codepink4peace.org/blog...

Mostly a personal bio of a woman.  Doesn't mention political Q of withdrawal.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Sex offender law bans man from going to church (0.00 / 0)
http://jonathanturley.org/2009...

Any church...?


he tried to attend church because he is not allowed to be present on any property where children are present, such as in the school's daycare center. It is only the latest in a series of cases that pit the freedom of religion against sex offender laws.

Note btw the linked to case of the teenage boy who is on a sex offender list for having consensual sex with another teenager (a girl - obviously she's not on any list of course).

Now in Saudi Arabia we'd be hearing about how sexist that sort of case was because the woman AND THE man were being arrested.  But in the US only the man is in trouble (well, boy really, he was 16, she was 13 but pretending to be 16).

His parents copped a plea for him without realising it mean he'd be fucked for life as a sex offender and now they can't find anywhere to live I assume.

Tent cities: first they came for the sex offenders (all men) and I didn't say anything.  Now its good for everyone.  That tends to be another recurring theme with these attacks on men btw.  Try out some outrageous shit on only men and then if nobody complains start to enlarge on that.

Hopefully the nutcase right will take this on now its stopping some attempted rapist going to fundie church (as opposed to an innocent boy just living and attending school).

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Eveer the modern man Turley sees no sexism (0.00 / 0)
The mother of the "sex offender" writes:

I am amazed at the blatant ignorance of these laws by so many folks and hope those who read this will educate themselves further to realize the registry is full of teen consensual sex relations (Romeo/Juliet) and men who took a pee in the woods etc.

Thing in common?  Always men.

Turley writes:

What is troubling in these cases is that two teens have consensual sex and one if pronounced the victim and the other a rapist by prosecutors. There must be a better way in dealing with the problem of teen sex other than turning one teen into a felon.

As if the designated criminal was the result of a coin flip or something.  It's always the boy that becomes the child sex offender and/or rapist and this is 100% a result of feminist changes to the law and how it is prosecuted.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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RAWA Speaking Tour on now (0.00 / 0)
http://www.afghanwomensmission...

Wonder what Zoya will have to say about Code Pink? Somebody should go to the one tomorrow and ask.

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What a bloody joke Code Pink is (4.00 / 2)
Code Pink now suddenly pro-occupation in Afghanistan
posted at 7:06 pm on October 7, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Weasel Zippers, an Obama accomplishment that SNL forgot: He can make "principled" anti-war activists roll over like the good little puppies they are. If the rumors are true about Biden spearheading a movement inside the administration to scale back in Afghanistan, then we've actually reached the point where Code Pink is more hawkish than the vice president of the United States.

http://hotair.com/archives/200...

Code Pink reveals what it was deep down all along, a Democratic Party front organization. 'Righteous' antiwar anger against Republicans only. Especially doing this now, when RAWA is touring the country right at the 8-year anniversary of the invasion and occupation, just before antiwar demonstrations October 16-17.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

Same source: the one CSM article (4.00 / 1)
To be honest I have a hard time believing its true.  I'd probably be even more skeptical if it were not for the sexism.  But once you allow the nose of prejudices under the tent as it were....

But it's just SUCH a 180.  You don't even have to go back 5 months.  Three would do.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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this is all very disappointing (4.00 / 1)
i guess then that code pink would support war on any country where women don't have the same rights as men? that would be lots of countries. including some of our "friends".

The defectors have started an underground railroad to smuggle other rebels out of hostile territory
That would be ever country in the world (4.00 / 1)
I am sure as good feminists they would not admit to any country having equality.  As I say above the facts are quite wrong (the US doesn't help women in Afghanistan; the Taliban did) but even if they were true, what right does CodePink have to judge whose life is worth something and whose isn't?

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.
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The interview seems to have took place in Afghanistan (5.00 / 1)
By an Indian woman who's in Kabul.  Here's her blog (no mention of the CSMonitor / CodePink piece)

http://www.aunohita.blogspot.com/

I wonder if they got out of Kabul much.  In the old days the criticism (from eg "Third World Traveler") was that most journalists would fly into Peshawar (in Pakistan), bus up to Kabul taking in Jalalabad maybe on route and see nothing of the rest of the country.  Since Kabul is entirely unrepresentative of the rest of the country they all wrote crap.

It's the most Westernised, most anti-Taliban city.

In one of the interviews CodePink had with a women's group someone told them the people rejected the taliban -- whata  joke!  And in another the woman leading the group asked them NOT to hand out a petition asking the US to not increase troop levels.


"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

This blog post by Medea seems close (4.00 / 1)
http://codepink4peace.org/blog...

It's hard to believe the access and diversity of meetings that our 9-person delegation has had in the past few days! ...we've had unbelievable access to high level officials. We've met the Minister of Communications, the Minister of Agriculture, the Minister of Urban Development, the Deputy Minister of Transportation, the Deputy Minister of Defense, the Deputy Minister of Finance and the former Minister of Mines...

I dunno.  Is that a GOOD thing?

We've learned about the need to not only train Afghan soldiers and police, but pay them a living wage (their $200 salaries can't cover the basics for a family). We discussed the pros and cons of U.S. troops, and to our surprise, found very few people who would like the troops out now. Most say that the country would collapse into civil war or be taken over by the Taliban if the US troops were to leave

Well fucking DUH.  Consider the source.

Now she also says they visited,

heads of women's organizations and women who are learning new skills from literacy to business classes. We were briefed by UN reps and international NGOs. We met with local groups researching conflict zones and participation in elections. We visited internal refugees living in makeshift tents, doctors in a maternity hospital, recovering drug addicts at their rehab center, artisans in their studios and businessmen in their sumptuous homes. We've interviewed journalists and been interview by journalists.

But still all in Kabul would be my guess.

The statement above is as close as I could find but also see the comments.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Actual gallop poll on whether Afghans think more troops a good idea (0.00 / 0)
Well see the wording for yourself: note that the poll results vary a great deal by region and ethnicity.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123...

Not that I'd trust any US based poll in Afghanistan as far as I could spit it.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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They were in Kabul only (4.00 / 1)
Benjamin: Well actually, there were many different opinions in Afghanistan and unfortunately because of the security situation we were very limited in who we talked to. We didn't get out to the countryside, we didn't talk to people who had been the targets of U.S. bombing, we didn't talk to people who lived under Taliban control. We, in a week, got to talk to an amazing variety of people, but they were all working inside Kabul, many of them coming from outside Kabul.

http://original.antiwar.com/sc...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

Their 'real' position not distorted by CSM (0.00 / 0)
Medea Benjamin:

And we certainly did hear some people say that they felt if the U.S. pulled out right now there would be a collapse and the Taliban might take over, there might be a civil war. But we also heard a lot of people say they didn't want more troops to be sent in and they wanted the U.S. to have a responsible exit strategy that included the training of Afghan troops, included being part of promoting a real reconciliation process and included economic development; that the United States shouldn't be allowed to just walk away from the problem. So that's really our position.


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep
yes that's shit (0.00 / 0)
What a fuck of her anti-war supporters.

The antiwar.com guy doesn't seem much better with his Rwanda and Vietnam analogies.  They both sound like a coupe of gung-ho "humanitarian" interventionists.

I love the way Medea Benjamin compares the pro-war position NOT to a pull out but to a mere absence of increased troops (her position).  As if the pull out position no longer exists.  "I can't be pro-war because I am against the extra 40,000 troops" seems to be her "defence".

Pathetic.

She's pro-Afghan war now and passing herself off as anti-war just on the basis of not supporting an escalation.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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Great comment (4.00 / 1)
Well we can't just leave because all of our quislings will be slaughtered, you know?

A ring of honesty.  Of course it happens anyway unless you take your quislings with you.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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Well fuck fuck fuckity fuck (0.00 / 0)
I sure as fuck don't take any pleasure in this downfall like the retards on the right will but fucking hell what the fuck is up with her?  And is this just a personal view or what?

What a betrayal of everything she's ostensibly fought for for years now.

This just doesn't make any sense to me.  It's not the first time she's been to Afghanistan (she went around 2001 I think).  She's more than familiar with the counter arguments having herself made the often enough.

I guess the Pentagon won't be hiding behind women's skirts any more because they'll be hiding behind CodePink's skirts now.

This makes no sense at all.

Is she so sad that she lets her opinions be dictated by some corporate whores in Kabul?  America's quislings with a cunt tell her they're afraid of a US pull-out and she does a 180?

Makes no sense.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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I think there's a serious mental block regarding Afghanistan for many people (4.00 / 1)
I think most of these nouveau-activist dems were politically and historically illiterate before 911. So Afghanistan remains a just war. Because they still don't understand why we went in the first place. Now they KNOW Iraq was bad...but only because there were already seeds of public doubt sprouting. Most people are slow growers.
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Actually it probably goes deeper than that (4.00 / 1)
Her going to Afghanistan in the first place probably gave a false sense of finally communicating with the Other. She let her guard down and believed every thing she was shown. That sort of uncritical emotional behavior is also very typical here, even for so-called anti-war activists.
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i think somebody probably (4.00 / 1)
just wrote them a huge check.  

The defectors have started an underground railroad to smuggle other rebels out of hostile territory
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Well that too. (4.00 / 1)

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What Makes the Left so RIGHT? It's money (0.00 / 0)
Huge Checks are a big part of what makes the Left so RIGHT.

From Daily Kos to Code Pink to Narco News to some of the largest liberal voices....it's the money that funds and supports them....(sometimes CIA money as they have a long history of funding leftist causes for a number of perverse reasons, including controlling the content and drawing in people who they can set up, spy on and then Discredit)

Daily Kos has a lot of CIA people posting there..there a ton of them.

http://www.dailykos.com/user/u...

How did Daily Kos suddenly become so popular...it happened overnite during the time Markos was "interviewing" with the CIA.....

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not exactly sure (0.00 / 0)
i had a low user number there and i found it by way of the dean for america blog. dfa was a good blog (content wise) but the interface was poor. many people migrated to kos from dfa but that would only explain the first 10k accounts or so.

The defectors have started an underground railroad to smuggle other rebels out of hostile territory
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Feminists (and therefore me too) were all over Afghanistan in 2000 (0.00 / 0)
That's how I happen to know a lot about pre-2001 Taliban / Afghanistan.  So they should have known better.  CodePink especially have been critical of FMF and NOW for their warwhoring ways.  They know about RAWA and their opposition to the occupation too.

You can't explain this as ignorance.  I thought maybe she'd said some unfortunate things while over there through an interpreter but the antiwar.com interview confirms it all (while she says the CSM article was misleading; but honestly I don't see it as such).

Looking at comments at their site (not in reaction) the humanitarian intervention meme will go down sweet enough with many.

When we (codepink) have a war its a good one, of course.  With fluffy bunnies and a rainbow pony.  the libertarian at antiwar.com joins with the humanitarian gestapo but adds a libertarian shrug of "what ya gonna do -- the govmint runs the real war, so no pony".

Both presume America has the right to run Afghans lives and killing them by the thousands is (to quote bitch Albright) "worth it".

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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But it is ignorance...and that is the core of it (4.00 / 1)
That there can be a just humanitarian intervention based on the supposed 'complaint' of the Afghani people. I don't get as nuts about feminism as you do, but in general I regard it as another deadly symptom of over-specialization in modern education. If the feminists weren't being used as propaganda bolsters, if they were actually being sent there for their expertise in world affairs...well, you get my point. They're about as qualified to comment on Afghanistan as a group of celebrity chefs. No 'group' of people with a theoretical  agenda should regard their participation in foreign affairs as impartial. That lie those types tell themselves always ends with their own hands bloodied whether or not History admits as much. Hello, bloody-handed Medea!

So another layer of this ignorance/lack of self-awareness is the simple obviousness that the feminists themselves were used to relay propaganda point #1. So this might be a case of saving face...since it's now obvious that they were part of the problem. Brutal-mindedness, anyway it's sliced.

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I'm not sure what you are saying (0.00 / 0)
CodePink has criticised other feminist groups for their pro-imperialist support of the occupation for the exact reasons she's now giving.  She's not saving face here but humiliatingly saying she has been wrong all these years (except she's not conceding she's changed positions that much and people haven't pressed her to explain how it could be viewed any other way).

It has been my view that gender issues are hard enough to analyse correctly for your own culture let alone running off to 3rd world countries and into past centuries to find victims.  Since I think feminists have to lie to get their case across these difficulties are an advantage ("Nobody knows anything about Afghanistan?  Cool, I can say anything I like about the place!") and too the feminist mythology requires ancient precedents of sexism to build on and some countries ahve a sort of medieval feel to them.  ("See this is how people used to live?  Women were always the victims of men!")  Therefore talking about stuff they don't understand is functional for feminists.

What did you mean by this,

I don't get as nuts about feminism as you do, but in general I regard it as another deadly symptom of over-specialization in modern education.


"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.
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Overspecialization? (4.00 / 1)
it's apparent across the board, from finance to psychology to upper-management types, who know nothing of their actual product. Modern 'experts' are only useful in a sterilized theoretical way. The military for instance. The State Dept is all too ready to rely on their advice...but it's always allowed to goes beyond strategy, or to be politicized - and they act surprised when it makes them look wishy-washy while the generals get elevated to hero-status. It's like asking a teenage fry-cook to produce a fast-food ad campaign just because he has first-hand knowledge of the product, and then having to fix all the mistakes he's bound to eventually make. So the entire process is stretched out, and more capital circulates despite the difficulty.

They're asking feminists to opine on 'womens' issues' of women half a world away, thinking their 'expertise' will be useful in our propaganda, because they are the experts after all. So policies end up being formed by specialized groups...which can turn into scapegoats for those really in control, if need be.

Anyway I am aware of the distinction between code pink and these other crusading feminists. I don't necessarily think there's criminal arm-twisting going on...I think medea et al may be weak-minded when it comes to attacking larger players...maybe slightly ignorant of 'Why We Fight', iow.

I think overspecialization, whether it's feminism, economics, or whatever always ends up facilitating blame deflection...whether this is by design or a natural result of capitalist heirarchals. Point is that it works, for those at the top of the food chain.

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new strategy (0.00 / 0)
Bowing to the reality that the Taliban is too ingrained in Afghanistan's culture to be entirely defeated, the administration is prepared, as it has been for some time, to accept some Taliban role in parts of Afghanistan, the official said. That could mean paving the way for Taliban members willing to renounce violence to participate in a central government - though there has been little receptiveness to this among the Taliban. It might even mean ceding some regions of the country to the Taliban.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...
wait, what?

The defectors have started an underground railroad to smuggle other rebels out of hostile territory
They know these carrots will not be eaten (0.00 / 0)
That's why they are sending over 40,000 more sticks.
[ Parent ]
somebody should tell code pink (4.00 / 1)
that the plan is for the taliban to stay either way.  

The defectors have started an underground railroad to smuggle other rebels out of hostile territory
[ Parent ]
What? No pony? (4.00 / 1)


"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.
[ Parent ]
oh (0.00 / 0)
did you tell them that? my reading comprehension skills are not that good today as i am distracted by baseball.

The defectors have started an underground railroad to smuggle other rebels out of hostile territory
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