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Harvest U Some Eric Dolphy

by: fairleft

Wed Aug 05, 2009 at 13:50:23 PM EST


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Go ahead. Call me reactionary. I happen to object to the musical nonsense being peddled in the name of Jazz by John Coltrane and his acolyte Eric Dolphy.

A Down Beat Magazine jazz critic in 1961, from Eric Dolphy, by Vladimir Simosko & Barry Tepperman

As I go on harvesting the presumably not-long-for-harvesting musical riches on youtube, I advise you all to do the same, except that you shouldn't cuz it's wrong. And, don't forget the pinnacle of jazz trippiness, Eric Dolphy, in your forays.


Eric Dolphy - You Don't Know What Love Is, from 'Last Date', 1964.

fairleft :: Harvest U Some Eric Dolphy

Eric Dolphy solo at 0'44''
The Charles Mingus Sextet, 1964:
Charles Mingus, Double Bass
Eric Dolphy Bass Clarinet
Dannie Richmond Drum
Clifford Jordan Tenor Sax
Jackie Byard Piano
Johnny Coles Trumpet


Eric Dolphy solo, bass clarinet, 1961.


John Coltrane Quartet with Eric Dolphy, Dolphy flute solo begins at 4'08''

This last recording (not the best sound quality) displays how different Dolphy was from even Coltrane, who jazz critics by 1961 had mainly  come to accept and honor. Dolphy was a 'new thing' (not sure if that was the same as 'free jazz' yet in 1961) player, and it was controversial when Coltrane incorporated him into his band and adopted some/much of his musical approach. A Down Beat Magazine (the jazz bible of the day) critic wrote:

Go ahead. Call me reactionary. I happen to object to the musical nonsense being peddled in the name of Jazz by John Coltrane and his acolyte Eric Dolphy.

From Eric Dolphy, by Vladimir Simosko & Barry Tepperman. There is also this, from an old Down Beat, filling in the controversy further, I suppose Jazz's last living controversy:

John Coltrane and Eric Dolphy Answer The Jazz Critics
Down Beat Magazine
4/12/1962

But Coltrane, an inquisitive-minded, probing musician, seemingly has left architecture for less concrete, more abstract means of expression. This third and present Coltrane has encountered an ever-growing block of criticism, much of it marked by a holy-war fervor.

Criticism of Coltrane III is almost always tied in with Coltrane's cohort Eric Dolphy, a member of that group of musicians who play what has been dubbed the "new thing."

Dolphy's playing has been praised and damned since his national-jazz-scene arrival about two years ago. Last summer Dolphy joined Coltrane's group for a tour. It was on this tour that Coltrane and Dolphy came under the withering fire of Down Beat associate editor John Tynan, the first critic to take a strong-and public-stand against what Coltrane and Dolphy were playing.

In the Nov. 23, 1961, Down Beat, Tynan wrote, "At Hollywood's Renaissance club recently, I listened to a horrifying demonstration of what appears to be a growing anti-jazz trend exemplified by those foremost proponents [Coltrane and Dolphy] of what is termed avant garde music.

"I heard a good rhythm section ... go to waste behind the nihilistic exercises of the two horns. ... Coltrane and Dolphy seem intent on deliberately destroying [swing]. ... They seem bent on pursuing an anarchistic course in their music that can but be termed anti-jazz."

The anti-jazz term was picked up by Leonard Feather and used as a basis for critical essays of Coltrane, Dolphy, Ornette Coleman and the "new Thing" in general in Down Beat and Show.

The reaction from readers to both Tynan's and Feather's remarks was immediate, heated, and about evenly divided.

Finally, here are Dolphy's parents in 1975 talking about his practice regimen and so on: Eric Dolphy, History. It's a hard road to jazz mastery of multiple instruments. Anyway, listen up, his like has not come our way again. A pity he died in June 1964, just after his 36th birthday.

Finally II, here's something else I wrote a couple days ago about him, but now it seems overly harsh:

Eric Dolphy was a nut

Early death is unjust, but for Dolphy particularly so.

Not that I think he would've played jazz out of the inevitable and honorable death struggle it was progressing into in the early 60s.

No, the injustice should've been corrected simply because he was so trippy, outside, and subversive of all that's right and true in jazz horn playing. Death ain't no way to say thank you to a guy with this much cognitive dissonance cool, there is no god?

Props to John Coltrane and everyone else for their loving support of the man's deconstructive and progressive disrespect of what was still settled in their craft.

A wonder (NOT) why Dolphy is dismissed or disappeared in Winton Marsalis's tired, narrow-minded-to-the-point-of-lying no-outsiders-respected 'history' of jazz.

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Wow that bass clarinet piece is crazy (0.00 / 0)


Why ain't that instrument more popular? (4.00 / 1)
It sounds great, much better than the regular clarinet (if comparing instruments makes any sense).

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Maybe there IS hope for music's future (4.00 / 1)
I also love the contrabass clarinet, my old music teacher had one. When you try to play it, if in fact you can produce a sound, it feels like you're this close to having a brain aneurysm or stroke. But maybe it was just me. Regular clarinets sort of do this to me too.

The bass and contrabass flute make some crazy sounds too, I've actually made some good sound with the bass flute - never even seen a contrabass. Looks ridiculous!

I watched a really awful movie the other day, just for the contrabass sax in the score(Last Man Standing).

The only thing I don't really care for is the bass oboe - too farty.


[ Parent ]
Maybe try this recorder (4.00 / 3)


For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

[ Parent ]
hana lee is a doll (0.00 / 0)
Cool how she apparently didn't change that expression while all around her the grown ups were ecstatically happy and excited:

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For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


2nd of the irregularly 'annual' love letters to A Gilroy series (0.00 / 0)
Wherezat irregular trombone player at?!

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

Bolton is right about Korean "hostages" (0.00 / 0)
At least he is right if you first accept the total bullship framing that nation state of Korea is a "terrorist group" and that the criminals who were tried in a court of law and convicted (and who are known to be guilty) were "hostages".

Of course this puts Dems in a bind.  Their behaviour doesn't fit their framing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

John Bolton, the neo-conservative whom the Senate refused to confirm as George W. Bush's Ambassador to the United Nations, dismissed President Clinton's mission as a "knee-jerk impulse for negotiations above all." "Despite decades of bipartisan U.S. rhetoric about not negotiating with terrorists for the release of hostages," Bolton wrote, "it seems that the Obama administration not only chose to negotiate, but to send a former president to do so."

Bolton is wrong.

Bolton is right.

Right if you accept the corporate spin of "terrorists" and "hostages".  Of course terrorists don't usually hold "hostages" for terms assigned by courts of law but that just shows how

crazy
and unpredictable those North Koreans are, right?

So the Democrat narrative agrees with Bolton about it being a hostage situation but then has to disagree with the perfectly logical conclusion: don't negotiate with terrorists or you'll just encourage more hostage taking.

Caught in their own pathetic propaganda lie the Dems can't come clean and say, "Oh of course the Koreans won't do anything.  These women were criminals legitimately caught in the act!"

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.


They were criminals by any nation's laws (4.00 / 1)
Crossing an international border without the permission of the nation you are entering. Open and shut case anywhere, but I admit I don't know all the details. Maybe they did have permission?

Non issue, non-story anyway. The big issues of the day are Obama trying to sell the insurance companies' dream health care plan, and all good liberal lions supporting or ignoring the onslaught in Afghanistan.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


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I think it's an illustrative story (4.00 / 1)
of how completely deceitful the US media is.  And in fact the whiteysphere too.  No major blogs are doing anything but parroting the corporate media.  The framing is followed completely.

It may seem to go without saying for me and you but most new sources in the West lie about most things.  Including the pwoggiesphere.  Lying is built in.  The assumption should be that they're lying.  Always.  About everything.

As you say -- wtf?  Why bother to lie about this story anyway?  of course it is Korea and so no matter how pathetic every opportunity to run them down with patriotic bullshit must be seized.

Looking out across the pwoggiesphere just about nobody has any skepticism as a reaction to a corporate led "news" system that routinely lies its ass off.

These people are mentally like little children.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.


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Rachel Maddow for example (0.00 / 0)
Lies, lies, lies.

Does she know she's lying?  Is she simply a moron who knows nothing?  Is she an innocent naif who credulously swallows every official storyline?  Or like Olberman does she know about the stuff but bends the truth in her mind because, you know, what's good for GE is good for holding that job?

Jon Stewart lies lies lies.

Does he know better?  Does he feel he can't afford to tell the truth as he did almost about Hiroshima, but then had to apologise for spreading doubt that it wasn't maybe a heroic act to drop a nuke on a city full of civilians when the war was already over?

People still trust.

Again and again people trust to this sort of crap.  I guess they have to feel a part of something.  They have to feel on a side.  They have to join up and the "good cop" democrats and the "lefty" news shows are the best they can get so they trust them.  No not just trust them but breathlessly praise and laud them as heroes bucking against corporate censorship, telling truth to power.

The fuck they are.

I saw one commentator at Hullabaloo say that maybe the two women deserved to be locked up for breaking the law?  He was attacked of course.  Some said he reminded them of banned users (me and one other).  A warning.  Huffington post?  Not a one.  The truth is strictly off-limits.  The pwoggiesphere has become the corporate media.  It's almost completely corrupt now.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.


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Never before has right-wing framing/lying been so automatic in the 'left' (0.00 / 0)
I mean in the whineysphere. Just another big change brought on by the man of change, Obama.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Not only that (0.00 / 0)
it's not just a border crossing.  the US and Korea remain at war.  And it's not just a dead letter.  Every week or so gunshots are exchanged still.  The US is actively prosecuting acts of war and provocations.  And these women just happened to be very close to a former US vice president (Gore).

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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wrong border dipstick (0.00 / 0)
NK and China are not at war...  geez talk about disinfo.

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You must practise to be as dumb as you are (0.00 / 0)
fuck off troll

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

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so when exactly was the last time (0.00 / 0)
gunfire across the Chinese/NK border was noted?  You do realize this is the border the women in question crossed illegally?

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"No wonder the government didn't want us to see it. I think they didn't want Americans to see themselves in that picture. It's one thing to know about that and another thing to see it." (4.00 / 1)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Not Guantanamo / Abu Ghraib torture, but film taken of the aftermath of the Hiroshima nuclear bombing and kept hidden as "top secret" for decades by the US military.

Still, the question of precisely why the footage remained secret for so long lingered. Here McGovern added his considerable voice. "The main reason it was classified was because of the horror, the devastation," he said. "The medical effects were pretty gory. The attitude was: do not show any medical effects. Don't make people sick."

But who was behind this? "I always had the sense," McGovern answered, "that people in the AEC were sorry they had dropped the bomb. The Air Force -- it was also sorry. I was told by people in the Pentagon that they didn't want those images out because they showed effects on man, woman and child."



"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

Most Americans believe the bombing was justified (0.00 / 0)
because they are lied to even to this day.  Sixty four years and it's still a major lie of the establishment.  What else about the history of world war 2 is a pack of lies?

If this is the tip of the iceberg... this that we know they have lied to us about.... how much more do we NOT know about?

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.


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but you'll believe any old trip the Castros peddle (0.00 / 0)
When you figure out all power centers work to keep the power intact you won't be such a comic book character.

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Chris Bowers -- archetypal idiot pwoggie? (0.00 / 0)
Of course I couldn't criticise anything Chris Bowers says at Open Left because they ban lefties.

What on earth is this motherfucking bullshit????

http://www.openleft.com/diary/...

Congress Rarely Passes Unpopular Laws

Holy shit what a dumbass.  What a grad A1 moron this guy is.  What apathetic apologist for the status quo really.  Oh mi god this is a sad day for even the pathetically sad pwoggiesphere.

Isn't it enough to make you vomit?  Where the fuck is any genuine liberal sentiment on any of these boards?



"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.


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