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{UPDATED Twice} Hal Turner, Sean Hannity, the White-o-sphere, Concern Trolls, and the FBI

by: socrates

Sun May 31, 2009 at 18:39:55 PM EDT


{UPDATE: The trolls can't deal with being
exposed as right woos left infiltrators and
useful idiots, so they are spamming my
diaries, busting out margins, and doing all
they can to ruin this forum after doing the
same to FSZ. They are also practising tag
abuse. Thus, I am going through this diary
and making it readable.

{2nd Update: The tag abuse continues. The
troll spam continues. This forum is now
officially dead. Mission accomplished for the
sick fuckers from FSZ.

I had a nice diary ready to go.
But now the message I am receiving
is "java.sql.SQLException: Incorrect
string value: 'xEFxBFxBDs s...' for
column 'extendedText' at row 1." I usupect
the people are so terrified about the truth
coming out, that they can't afford to even
let me post diaries.

The page uploads fine for preview, but when
I attempt save so it is published, it's a no go.

The new entry can be found here:

Michael Rivero Exposed As A Right Woos Left Jew Hater

Hal Turner, Sean Hannity, the
White-o-sphere, Concern Trolls, and
the FBI

They aren't satisfied with just driving
me off of FSZ. They troll me all over this
joint too. They spam. A few of them like
DeeDogg, Mattes, and Blues are just coming
up with crap that is totally wrong. Lauren S
and her buddy JSR are loving it here. Their
FSZ is so slow and boring, of course they
fear that this place will do better than
theirs. They have a fake facade to upheld,
as if they matter. They figure if their place
is destined to rot, so shall the Laura's Place.

I checked out Donkeytale's crosspost on
Willis Carto over at MLW, and it got twisted
into being about an irrelevant right woos
left useful idiot named LastHorseMan. Why
are these "progressive" forums full of people
with or feigning cognitive dissonance? The
story is right woos left. And all around
these mental midgets who emerged from the
Daily Kos as fake opposition have freaked
out, because a nobody from Massachusetts
has called all their bluffs. That swopping
sweat isw not very becoming.

socrates :: {UPDATED Twice} Hal Turner, Sean Hannity, the White-o-sphere, Concern Trolls, and the FBI
Hal Turner

DaveFromQueens had a diary concerning Hal
Turner's relationship to Sean Hannity.
If Dave had survived, I wonder
how he would feel about the possibility of
Michael Fingerit being friends with Sean.
I mean, just go back into the DKos archives,
or take my word for it, Dave showed up on Fingerit's
radar for banishment, when he
had ratcheted up his activism against
Hannity and a numbnut named Mark Levin.

Ha, while trying to track down that link, I
found another DFQ DKos entry concerning
Hannity and Turner.

Did Sean Hannity Have Sex With Hal Turner?

And another:

Nazi Hal Turner Acknowledges Friendship With Hannity

The following story on Hal Turner linking him
to the FBI seems legit. It also makes one
wonder what other right woos left internet
nutjobs may be in bed with the FBI {internet cointelpro?}.
Mike Rivero? Alex Jones? There
are a lot of frothers on the net
confusing hate speech and the politics of fear
for patriotism and good American values.
They appear on the surface as truthseekers
and activitsts. But after a bit of research,
one can figure out their true objectives.

This Hal Turner story reminds me very much of
what went on with Rivero's fascist WRH "Unofficial" forum. Modern day
cointelpro does indeed appear to be operating
on these forums. Maybe MajorFlaw also has a
direct contact?

Someone covered this story quite well over
at DailyCIAKos.

Hannity's Neo-Nazi Buddy, FBI front?

Here is the reported email exchange between Rivero's and
Sean Hannity's buddy, Hal Turner, and his FBI "Cointelpro" handlers.


Is Sean Hannity on the same FBI contact list
as Turner?

It appears that back in 2001, both of these
slobs were in on a same but, but, but Clinton story.

link


"Eleven days ago, this web site ran the story
but no other media outlet took up the cause."

This is not true. I heard this very story originally on
Sean Hannity's radio show, about
2 weeks ago, I believe. Presumably this
was the day the story "broke", and I
haven't listened to Sean since then, so I
don't know if any follow-up was
done.

Mike Rivero and Hal Turner are good cop, bad
cop and seemingly on the same payroll. Who put
Hal Turner on the map? That would be Sean
Hannity of Fox-News.

There's plenty of good info at the following url.

http://onepeoplesproject.com

One People's Project:

If there is anyone who seemingly
hates us more than any chump we post here it
is this guy. Hal Turner ran for the
Republican nomination for Congress in 2000 in
the 13th District in an attempt to
unseat incumbent Bob Melendez. He was also
the Campaign Chair for Murray Sabrin when he
ran for NJ Governor in 1997. If Sabrin won
his current bid for Senator, he said he wanted
to pass the torch to him. Some of us were not
too keen on that because we had flagged him as
a racist trying to slip into the mainstream.
We were right......

Hal Turner appears to be a modern day cointelpro punk.

The Nation
Hannity's Soul-Mate of Hate
by Max Blumenthal
June 3, 2005


This year a man named Hal Turner sat before
his computer at his suburban home in North
Bergen, New Jersey, posting bomb-making
tips on his website, hailing the firebombing
of an apartment containing "Savage Negroes"
and calling for the murder of immigrants.
"When enough illegal aliens get killed they
will stop coming to the country!" Turner wrote.

Turner was once a prominent activist
in New Jersey's Republican Party. To
area conservatives, he was best known by
his moniker for call-ins to the Sean
Hannity Show
, "Hal from North Bergen."
For years, Hannity offered his top-rated
radio show as a regular forum for
Turner's occasionally racist, always
over-the-top rants. Hannity also chatted with
him off-air, allegedly offering encouragement
to Turner as he struggled to overcome a
cocaine habit and homosexual leanings. Turner
has boasted that Hannity once invited Turner
and his son on to the set of Fox News's
[i]Hannity and Colmes[i]. Today, Turner lurks
on the fringes of the far right,
spouting hate-laced tirades on his webcast
radio show. Hannity, meanwhile, remains mum
about his former alliance with the
neo-Nazi, homing in instead on the supposed
racism of black and Latino Democrats.....

Looking at the link above from the
Blumenthal excerpt, how is Hal Turner not
some form of "Cointelpro?" Could Hal Turner
be "Ender" from Rivero's WhatReallyHappened
forum {not to be confused for the Ender
from DKos}? There's really no need to refer
to it as the "Unofficial" forum. They archive Rivero's letters.
Rivero prominently linked to that shitrag of
a forum. That place is part and parcel of
the infiltration of the internet by paid hacks
and shills. Hal Turner could definitely have
been "Ender."

They are probably all on the same payroll,
one which saturates the net with lies and provocations.

Sherman Austin got busted for something he
never did, but this pond scum named Hal
Turner could post shit like this and never
get arrested?

Both Hal Turner and Ender from Rivero's forum
are two peas in a pod. Good thing may41970
copied and pasted that original agent
provocateur crap from Ender, before it
got scrubbed. May41970 had called Ender out
for sounding like Cointelpro. Now it turns
out another hatemonger, Sean Hannity's buddy,
was informing for the FBI. Here's aan excerpt
from a newspaper piece on Hal Turner, a real
life "Ender."

Times Herald-Record
White power rally leader was FBI snitch: law center
By Paul Brooks
January 17, 2008


Hal Turner stalked in front of Kingston
High School with his neo-Nazi supporters in
2005, tossing white-power taunts at counter-demonstrators.

That was just part of his legacy. He
railed against President Bush and Jews, too.
He handed out the private addresses of New
Jersey Supreme Court justices.

But some government agencies are OK if you
work for them - and Turner apparently did.

He was an FBI informant, according to the
Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that
monitors hate groups and extremists.

According to the center, hackers confronted
Turner on his Web site Jan. 1 and told him
they had broken into Turner's computer server.

What they found were e-mails between Turner and
an FBI agent who was apparently Turner's
handler. The unidentified hackers posted a
July 7 e-mail to the agent. In it, Turner gave
the agent a message from someone threatening
to kill Sen. Russ Feingold, Democrat of
Wisconsin, the center said in a story on its
Web site, splcenter.org.

"Once again," Turner wrote to the agent,
"my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out
a possible crazy."

When the e-mails hit a neo-Nazi Web site,
Turner shut down his own Web site. "I
hereby separate from the "pro-White" movement.
I will no longer involve myself in any aspect
of it," Turner said.

Yesterday, Turner said the only thing he can
say about the FBI allegation is "no comment."
The FBI hasn't commented, either.

The center's Mark Potok didn't object to the
FBI's use of informants in general. "There is
no question these are groups in many, many
cases that really do need infiltrating, but
... this goes way over the line. It is like a
game of Russian roulette and we are the bait."

Kingston Mayor Jim Sottile was dumbfounded by
the revelation of Turner's FBI informant
status. "You can't make this stuff up," the
mayor said.

Maybe Turner was acting all the time,
Sottile said. "But it wasn't an act when he
had this whole community in an uproar and cost
us $80,000."

I had found that article from a blog
called PhillyBits. The blogger there has access to who is
visiting his place. He posted that the
blogpost titled "Famed Racist Hal Turner:
FBI Snitch?" got a visit from the Department
of Justice. This reminds me of who paid a visit
to Progressive Gold after an article
was written on Bob Parsons of GoDaddy. They had
a guest from the Office of the Secretary
of Commerce. [/wow]


P.S. - Maybe it means something, maybe it
doesn't. But somebody at the US Dept. of
Justice is looking up the Hal Turner story
too. Curiosity? Damage control? Who knows...


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I'm hopping over and (2.50 / 2)
telling the shoe you wriggled out of the drawer again right now!!!

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

[ Parent ]
You already brought the nuts, (2.50 / 2)
so I'm bringing the...

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Why are you showing support for Sean Hannity and Hal Turner? (1.00 / 4)
Are you Michael Fingerit? That's his m.o..

I think this person should be banned. This is a form of spam. I think there should at least be a rule against this busting out of the margins.

These fockers can't win fair and square, so they cheat.

http://davefromqueens2.blogspo...
http://allaircraftarenotinvolv...


[ Parent ]
The whole drawer pitched in (3.00 / 3)
to hire a bag of athletic sock mercenaries to hunt you down. You may have escaped for now, but they'll catch up to you eventually, the dresser isn't that big. Remember when you tried to hide behind the lingerie? The garter belts busted your ass!  

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

[ Parent ]
Does socrates have lacy undies? Thongs? (2.67 / 3)
Tell me he isn't a jockey brief man. It would be such disappointment.

[ Parent ]
Fur, mostly (3.00 / 3)
fur baby suits, with easy diaper access.

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

[ Parent ]
You're such a principled advocate of free speech (2.00 / 3)


[ Parent ]
Fuck off (3.00 / 3)
take your blogmaid crap back to the ironically named "FSZ"

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

[ Parent ]
Hahahahaaaaa (1.00 / 2)
Yes, sir, I'll get right on that!

take your blogmaid crap back to the ironically named "FSZ"

Yet another hypocrite of the highest order.

Your principles called and said that they haven't seen you in 20 years.


[ Parent ]
What principle would that be asswipe? (3.00 / 3)
I don't recall ever saying people had a right to try and sabotage other peoples' political speech.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

[ Parent ]
Sabotage? (2.00 / 3)
LMFAO damn grow a fucking spine, kid.  Posting "zzzzzzz" is sabotaging someone's free speech?  How fucking absurd can you get....wait...don't answer that, we already know.

Using your metrics, you're currently sabotaging my free speech.  Jesus, just saying that makes my spine feel like jello.  


[ Parent ]
I agree (2.50 / 2)
this sort of crap should be stamped out.  It's a deliberate sabotage of the board.

"Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it", Helen Keller, communist.

[ Parent ]
Ah yet another principled advocate of free speech! (2.50 / 2)
Bitched nonstop about Jack banning and deleting and now you call for the same thing to be done.

You two are hypocrisy defined.


[ Parent ]
I am so glad you agree with me! (2.50 / 2)
Did you manage to wriggle off of the master's arm for a moment to speak your own mind for once? Good for you! Keep up the good fight! True lefty and peacnik socks unite!

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

[ Parent ]
You need an editor (2.00 / 3)
And this should be in small doses or chapters. Too unorganized to properly understand what you want to convey. That's what brings the idiots out to persecute you.

or maybe just realize that all of this was reported over a year ago (2.50 / 2)
[ Parent ]
We tried to edit by consensus once (3.25 / 4)
but he got in the center, played crack the whip, and half the socks in the drawer ended up in the IDU (Intensive Darn Unit).

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

[ Parent ]
Did you read this before or after the margins got busted out? (2.00 / 2)
Abbeysbooks, with all due respect,
your post reads like an undergrad
complaining in an advanced seminar,
that the dialogue is unorganised and
incoherent.

What you are saying is not the reason
why I get trolled. I expect better than
you than to miss context in such a woeful
manner. You portray yourself as one of
DFQ's biggest supporters, and you have been.
Yet, you have no comments on Sean Hannity's
buddy Hal Turner turning up to be an FBI
informant?

Right woos left only works, because good people
like yourself don't understand it, and how much
it has contaminated "progressive" boards.

http://davefromqueens2.blogspo...
http://allaircraftarenotinvolv...


[ Parent ]
Jam her back on your hand quick, (3.00 / 3)
she seems to be going too far off message.
Next thing you know, she'll be the one in charge,
and you'll be stuck playing second fiddle.

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

[ Parent ]
This story is over a year old (2.50 / 2)
Who friggin cares.

[ Parent ]
There is NOTHING to prove Mike Rivero and Hal Turner are (1.00 / 1)
on the same side. He is just here to smear Mike Rivero.

http://www.progressiveindepend...


[ Parent ]
He doesn't really support a single charge against Rivero in the diary (2.50 / 2)


[ Parent ]
But of course you have to read the mess of a diary to figure (3.00 / 3)
that out!

As with all his diaries. He links unrelated people in order to slander them. That is his "method".

Works well with lazy brains.

And he repeats the shit over and over again. Oh, yes he has a method. He is on a crusade. Israeli activist intel.

http://www.progressiveindepend...


[ Parent ]
But of course you have to read the mess of a diary to figure (3.00 / 3)
that out!

As with all his diaries. He links unrelated people in order to slander them. That is his "method".

Works well with lazy brains.

And he repeats the shit over and over again. Oh, yes he has a method. He is on a crusade. Israeli activist intel.

http://www.progressiveindepend...


[ Parent ]
Don't be ridiculous! (2.50 / 2)
He's here because his horde has been banned from every site he's ever been slightly interested in, beyond creating a kerfluffle between himself and himself. Bet on it.

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

[ Parent ]
Mike's thought for the day, doesn't sound like a facist. (2.50 / 2)
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."-- John Kenneth Galbraith, economist and author  

http://www.progressiveindepend...


[ Parent ]
Gawd, that IS socrates 11 posting that (3.50 / 8)
I thought it had to be one of the fakes at first and had to check.

So hey, 11, you're running real short of friends as it is.  Why not be nice to one of the few you've got left, not just here, but anywhere in the world?

Abbey's right that you need an editor and you know it.  You frequently admit that you overwrite and don't go back to revise for clarity and tighten up your work.  You enjoy spewing, so you just spew, but you've acknowledged that your lack of discipline costs you because others don't want to wade into your massive messes.

You also know the main reason you get hostile responses is that you're nasty to people to the point where they give up trying to tolerate you.  But if you posted better diaries and learned -- at age 42 -- to behave like a creature that was raised indoors, things would work out much better for you.

Seriously.

P.S.  Why does "all due respect" invariably signal that only disrespect will follow? It never plays out any other way.  Never. Abbey deserves better than that.


"I dont just discuss Meta, I create meta." - donkeytale


[ Parent ]
Well it doesn't help when he calls his critics "pig-fuckers". (4.00 / 2)
And if you do read through it, you realize the whole spiel is to discredit Mike Rivero.

There has been an orchestrated movement to shut down WhatReallyHappened for months. He is part of it. Linking Rivero with ring-winged nuts...and using numerous puppets.

I am curious how he found fsz.

http://www.progressiveindepend...


[ Parent ]
Yeah, that is interesting (4.00 / 1)
I assumed he followed DFQ there, but the more I read the more it seems he didn't know anything about Dave until after Dave died.  Is that correct?

"I dont just discuss Meta, I create meta." - donkeytale

[ Parent ]
Yes that is correct (0.00 / 0)
It's one of the more disgusting things Jeff Reynolds has done, come upon a guy who has just died and act as if he was one of his big supporters all along, then act as if he's doing all of this insane shit to carry on Dave's legacy.

Jeff is truly fucked up in the head.


[ Parent ]
And you were so supportive of Dave when he was alive, weren't you? (3.00 / 3)


[ Parent ]
I thought everyone knew that already? (4.00 / 2)
Classic power vacuum scenario.

History always gets rewritten.


[ Parent ]
Yeah, I'm just getting caught up on events (3.00 / 2)
Mostly I tried ignoring it all and then suddenly it was :::splat::: in my face.

"I dont just discuss Meta, I create meta." - donkeytale

[ Parent ]
He has all his stuff saved on wordpad (0.00 / 0)
and just copies and paste it over and over.  There is no writing to edit.

If you forbid filters, you get deedogg.

[ Parent ]
Hey fucker.... (4.00 / 2)
Outting an activist?

What were you thinking?!

"Oh, he doesn't know anybody where I live"

Dumbass.


Fuck.


[ Parent ]
UPDATE (3.25 / 4)
{UPDATE: The trolls can't deal with being
exposed as right woos left infiltrators and
useful idiots, so they are spamming my
diaries, busting out margins, and doing all
they can to ruin this forum after doing the
same to FSZ. They are also practising tag
abuse. Thus, I am going through this diary
and making it readable.}

You failed.

What were you (3.00 / 3)
posting on the internet in June 2006?
Shall we find out about May and July 2006 as well?
All the names and stories.
Yes, let's talk about that.
That is quite interesting.

sockalicious to the last drop of meta smoothie!

<font size="12"> HI JEFFY REYNOLDS!!!!!!! </font> (4.00 / 1)
PFF Killa Bees Swarm!

Oh man, hope you don't have anything you didn't want us to find out about you.

Man, wouldn't that suck?

And the lawwwwwd said "LET THERE BE GOOGLE!"

Fuck.


Epic subject line fail.... (4.00 / 1)
the preview button lies!

Fuck.

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