Obama runs Syria war out of Incirlik air base in Turkey

by: fairleft

Thu Aug 02, 2012 at 11:46:41 AM EST

The Syria headline today is Kofi Annan resigns as Special Envoy to Syria. But I think yesterday's headline was much more enlightening: Obama authorized secret support for Syrian rebels. If you have even minimal understanding of real world power politics, you can learn exactly what imperialism looks like from that mainstream media source. The key information begins in paragraphs six and seven:

Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.

The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear.

I'd guess "a long time ago" and "anything goes," based on the U.S. imperial track record. But the key paragraphs are nine to eleven:

A U.S. government source acknowledged that under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.

Last week, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military and communications support to Assad's opponents.

This "nerve center" is in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.

"Turkey and its allies" means Turkey and the two Gulf dictatorships, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Knowing the real relationship between the U.S. and those powers, translate "the United States was collaborating with" into "the United States was commanding." And confirm that by noting the 'secret' base is essentially at a longstanding U.S. military and intelligence base.

fairleft :: Obama runs Syria war out of Incirlik air base in Turkey
Which leads to the following headline from Lebanon, NOT something allowed into the U.S. mainstream: Damascus says U.S., Turkey, Israel, Gulf states directing 'terrorists' in Syria. Obviously true, but misleading if it directs us away from the fact that the boss of bosses is the U.S. and its puppets and underlings better not forget that.

Which takes us to the next true headline, also, of course, not allowed into the U.S. mainstream: No happy outcome in Syria as conflict turns into proxy war, which begins:

Regional powers are pouring in money and guns, jihadists are joining rebels battling to overthrow Bashar al-Assad, while his own well-armed but hard-pressed forces are fighting back ruthlessly with combat aircraft and artillery.

Gruesome scenes of slaughtered civilians or executed rebel fighters provide daily snapshots of the worsening conflict in Syria. Video -- Syrian rebels execute pro-Assad militiamen in Aleppo -- apparently showing rebels gunning down Assad militiamen in cold blood suggests the insurgents are capable of brutality to match their enemies.

Brought to you by the Nobel Peace Prize winner himself.
Finally, to really get at what is going on inside Syria, I strongly recommend the short article Syria & blanket thinkers. I agree with all four of his main points, but will blockquote just one of them:

It is correct to deny the broad label of 'sectarian gangs' to describe armed opposition groups operating in Syria. Nevertheless, evidence exists that these groups are not uniform and there is no united leadership or central command. A sectarian dynamic exists in the current conflict and some of these groups have been galvanised by anti-Shi'a hatred preached by Saudi aligned Salafi preachers (Sheikh 'Adnan al-'Arour being one prominent example). Human Rights Watch and United Nations reports agree on violence committed by some opposition armed groups (Human Rights Watch makes salient the sectarian dimension of some of these abuses).

The kidnapping of Iranian engineers and Lebanese pilgrims, for example, are examples of this sectarian dimension. Leading Syrian opposition figures (e.g. Burhan Ghalioun and Haitham al-Maleh) justified the kidnapping of Lebanese civilians, perpetuating the narrative of leading Hezbollah officers being captured. Further, documents and news are frequently fabricated from an array of opposition factions (armed and civilian) to establish, on sectarian terms, the armed presence of thousands of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, Sadr Brigades and Hezbollah fighters (a propaganda industry in coordination with the different Saudi monarchy owned media stations). It is not coincidental that this orchestrated scheme of fabrication is largely run on sectarian lines. In other words, it is not only the regime and its backers that may operate along communal lines but also opposition groups.

Also, specific wordings and ideas from anti-Shi'a Salafi polemics and tracts, initially mass distributed during the Iran/Iraq war (e.g. the book 'The Magians (Zoroastrians) turn has come'), has now become common currency across some opposition factions (it is common to find, in this discourse of derision, talk of the dangers of the Shi'ite esoterics [in this context meaning a communal trait of treachery], the Zoroastrian Twelver Shi'ite rejectionists, the expansionist conspiracies of the Safavids etc.). Popular Facebook pages, such as Shaam News Network and the Syrian Revolution, regularly repeat terms initially concocted by Wahabi preachers (whether Saudi aligned or not), though it is not clear if they realise the theological background of the terms used (these terms are used within a Salafi discourse to excommunicate Twelver Shi'ism from Islam and treat their beliefs and practices as both pagan and idolatrous. This de-humanising language is also used to establish communal traits of treachery and expansionist visions as part of this supposed belief system).

So, do we accept that our country, the U.S., is the critical actor in this tragedy? Do we understand that if the U.S. told its forces to accept and respect a ceasefire -- i.e., to do the opposite of what the rebels did when there was a ceasefire in May -- that that would of course stop the killing and be the key contribution toward a negotiated settlement of this part civil war part foreign intervention?

To most Syrians, I think, this war has lost any point aside from sectarian score settling. Let's pressure our government to stop the killing. It has the power, and therefore so do the citizens of the U.S. Or do we?

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Topless activism against the Olympics and Sharia law
August 1, 2012 at 8:29 pm Maryam Namazie

As you know, we've been involved in some protests against the International Olympics Committee's violation of its principles of gender equality and neutrality with regards Islamic states, veiling and inequality.

Tomorrow, FEMEN is organising another related event, which is demanding that the International Olympics Committee condemn violence against women via Islamist states. Femen demands that those states that apply Sharia law be shut out of the Olympic games, because of the inhumanity of Sharia laws, which are in total contradiction with Olympic principles.

With the support of the IOC, these Islamist governments are using their participation of women in the Olympic games to hide thousands of victims and dead.

FEMEN's action will take place tomorrow at 11am. The meeting point for the media is 10.45am in front of the London House, near Tower Bridge.

Join FEMEN if you can tomorrow. We have to do all we can whilst attention is on the Olympics to show our opposition to Islamism and our support of women's rights and equality.

For more information, contact: / 0033662839340 or 0033663187245.

fairloon makes no sense (4.00 / 1)
Only thing we can be sure of is he would have been either a Stalinist or boot licking Nazi. All he does is pee propaganda. Dude's as irrelevant as Keith Moon Noom. Two sides of the same bullshit. Two jackasses no one reads.

Everyone's reading Socrates, cuz of insightful comments like the one above. (0.00 / 0)

Or maybe not.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Maybe not that (0.00 / 0)
But it's the only reason anyone would be reading one of your stupid diaries. Oh yes, a mea culpa. There is the possibility you might have ended up a hare krishna. You're transparent. Busted lying on the tens of thousands schtick. Noomie showing you were pro-Assad. Donkeytale crushing your pea-sized brain in regards to right wing alignment with immigration and Huey Long. Your worst was when you promoted the Iranian theocracy. Kind of showed your Jeff Rense right woos left bullshite then and there. Maybe change your username and try to make sense next time. It's over, son. You're a joke and caricature of a white supremacist neo-Stalinist. Who'd a thunk that was possible someone could be both pro-cracker and pro-Stalin? Oh yeah, no one would.

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How come myFDL welcomes me and rejects donk as a right-wing nutjob? (2.00 / 1)

Could it be you're barking up the rong right roos reft tree? I mean, it is right wing what the U.S. is telling its puppets to do to Syria, right? You know, imperialism, big country bombing, killing, and starving a small country into changing its ruler to one the U.S. and Israel like better? That sound kind of e-v-i-l to you?

But no, you love 'tale, don't you? Letting your feelings get in the way of dispassionate assessment of the evidence again.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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I just wasted time skimming through some of your FDL junk (0.00 / 0)
I see mostly people calling you out for being an idiot. You're lucky Hamster passed that rule saying people can't question your motives. It might be for the best. While you reek of being paid to post, you might just be a recovered hard drug addict.

I also saw you made multiple entries exposing you're a racist. But those who have been at Pffugee for a while already knew that. Son, it's over. You kissed Ahmedjadoofus whoever's butt too much a year or two ago lining you up with the Rense-Rivero-Stormfront crowd. I guess this is what crystal meth or crack does to a mind. Which one was it?

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Haha @fairloon (0.00 / 0)
You lambasted someone for channelling donkeytale. He wasn't even on the thread. In another someone had the same question that Vox Humana had, as in wtf are you rambling about? Meanwhile a dish named Margaret has you 100% pegged.

In response to fairleft @ 31

Suggesting that I am a media dupe is specious, ad hominem and in no way addresses the fact that you apparently have a personal vendetta against MSNBC, (which I never watch btw), and that you continually call out MSNBC and it's always because some conservative figure is being treated unfairly in your mind. If other people are blind enough to believe that you are either "fair" or "left", then that's their problem. I suffer no such delusions. I know what you are and why you are here and know what? I'm going to keep pointing it out. So by all means, keep posting your outrage at everybody that the tea party movement and Rush Limbaugh claim are "liberal".


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Lets be honest "Fair" "Left". I know that is increasingly difficult for you these days (5.00 / 1)
When you say "My FDL" you are really meaning a few, approx 5-6 users. These users are naturally siding with you because you are mirroring their own assumptive mischaracterisations, possibly because you are badly in need of support for your own assumptive mischaracterisations.

My goal in posting at FDL is not now nor has it ever been, as on any blog I posted, an attempt to gain adherents. My goal is now and has always been an effort to provide viewpoints, information and opinions while questioning and debunking assumptive mischaracterisations put forth either through ignorance or bad faith, or both.

In that, I am considered a contrarian, a troll. I wear that moniker proudly, just as you wear your propagandist label proudly. Unfortunately, your propaganda consistently favours the opposite of that which you claim to promote: you favour right wing neoliberal, imperialist authoritarianism, time after time, as long as you perceived (often incorrectly) that such is in opposition to the US and Israel.

This is your defining motivation, whether you admit it or even realise it, which I don't believe you honestly do.

I have always claimed that your motivation is ignorance, and a desperate need to belong to a support group.

As such, you are a classic example of a "useful idiot" for rightwing authoritarianism, including the advancement of the GOP, racism, anti-immigration and the salvation of neoliberal capitalism.


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Greatest. Post. Ever. (0.00 / 0)
+1 This above ^^ I wish to be your adherent. I am not worthy. I am not worthy. There I said it. You said it when you said it. He is so anti-Israel, that everything he blogs must conform to that propaganda. It's not good enough for failreft to simply come up with good sources and intellectually push for Palestinian human rights. He has seen the enemy, and it is himself. He is a modification of doublespeak. He pimps himself out as being leftist but indeed he is on the right side of nearly every issue. Right as in not correct or wong. Failreft is from the wong wing.

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I dont know dude (4.00 / 1)
I'm really kicking it over at FDL today.

Check this out

14 Responses to Syrian Revolution: Facts on the Ground

donkeytale August 5th, 2012 at 9:44 am 1
The Syrian revolutionary process has since the beginning been met by circumspection by some on the left and even led some to separate it from the other uprising in the region, accusing it of being a conspiracy of Western imperialist and reactionary regional countries such as Saudi Arabia. This trend has unfortunately continued, despite the criminal actions of the regime. Others have limited their position to the refusal of any foreign military intervention, on which we agree, but refused to bring full support to the revolution, on which we disagree. Opposition to foreign military intervention in Syria is not enough. Such a position is meaningless if not accompanied by clear and strong support for the Syrian people's movement.
These positions all show a lack of analysis and understanding, firstly, of the policies and the nature of the regime and, secondly, of the dynamics of the uprising.

markfromireland August 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am 2
You're going to get into trouble with the editor/moderator here for going way past what's considered "fair use" guidelines. Those guidelines and rules are in place to protect FDL from legal action by copyright holders.
That's generally considered to be about 3 paragraphs. Whereas you've copied and pasted rather more than that. See:
My FDL | About Us
- Do not violate any copyright laws - This means do not reprint articles in whole from other websites or news sources, unless you are the author. If you are quoting an article, only use a maximum of two or three paragraphs. At the moment please do not use AP sources AT ALL. For more information about what is acceptable use of copyright material, please read more here.
- Avoid single-sentence diary posts; use a micro-blogging site instead. Posts should be a minimum of 100 words and 2-3 paragraphs, composed with some consideration given to a thesis, analysis or commentary, and a summary. Exceptions to this are posts with art or video embedded; these kinds of posts should contain an explanation of the content at a minimum, with additional analysis and commentary preferred.
You might like to note that in the USA there is a concerted campaign by the right wing to shut down "progressive" sites using the intellectual property laws.

donkeytale August 5th, 2012 at 10:47 am 3
In response to markfromireland  2
Really? Even when:
Editorial Policy
International Viewpoint is published under the responsibility of the Bureau of the Fourth International. Signed articles do not necessarily reflect editorial policy. Articles can be reprinted with acknowledgement, and a live link if possible.
Based on your trolling me in previous diaries I posted, I might consider what you're doing here an attempt to shut me the form of concern trolling.
I'm still open to discussing the contents of my diaries with you any time you like. I find your remarks generally intelligent....when made in good faith.
I do appreciate your use of quotation marks around the word progressive when referring to FDL.

donkeytale August 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am 4
Oh, I see MFI's "concern" did indeed bring out the editor.
May I now get a ruling based on the fact that International Viewpoint doesn't subject its articles to "Fair Use" guidelines, as evidenced by their Editorial Policy which I posted in comment 3 above?
Thank you for the clarification.

dakine01 August 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am 5
In response to donkeytale  3
I do appreciate your use of quotation marks around the word progressive when referring to FDL.
Interesting use of mockery of FDL even though it is providing you the forum to do so.
FWIW, my understanding of FDL policy is to err on the side of caution by following the FDL rules rather than accepting the statements provided by others. The MyFDL editor did in fact fix your link to be live so that the information can be read as a total article.

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Dude claims to be a lawyer (0.00 / 0)
While the fricken link says copy and paste it all to your heart's content. Wendy Davis seems to be a sweetie asking for nuance, though I admit to not following FDL. If I had to bet, that website rakes it in. Uhm, just hope those blokes exposing you as astroturf don't stumble across my historic troll masterpiece highlighting the probability you work for the DLC. Probability is a tricky business. Fatterico claims Brynaert was probably the SWATter. Others claim it's probable Frey is a douchebag liar. Somehow the odds are not adding up to 100%. But yes, the main point is to strive to be entertaining. For that alone, you have been an excellent blogger. Carry on, son.

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donkeytale August 5th, 2012 at 11:18 am 6
In response to dakine01  5
I strive to be interesting, so I take that as a compliment.
Further bolstered by your statement that FDL "errs on the side of caution". Yes, a very "progressive" stance.
And, by the way, what FDL does is make money from providing a forum, is that correct? In return, at least some of my articles have been widely linked through the internet, which I understand is my small part to help improve the rankings, which in turn increases FDL's visibility and income.
Your statement "made by others" was in fact the Editorial Policy of International Viewpoint, so in fact your refusal to allow the posting of the article in its entirety is simply a form of censorship.
Duly noted.
Along with MFI's role in thread policing....

dakine01 August 5th, 2012 at 11:28 am 7
In response to donkeytale  6
I think Jane would contest the idea of FDL as making money from providing the forum. Any funds that come in through donations, membership, and advertising is promptly eaten up by the cost of servers, technology upgrades, and general Admin support.
But if you do find the actions of MyFDL editors and such so very onerous, you can always move along to either found your own blog or find somewhere that may be more hospitable to you

markfromireland August 5th, 2012 at 11:41 am 9
In response to dakine01  5
Yes, and rightly so. The original posting by donkeytale contained far too much copied and pasted material and still fails to fall within the fair use guidelines as there is neither commentary nor analysis of the quoted material.
The fact that "international viewpoint" apparently allow full copy and paste with attribution is irrelevant as the writer's failure to provide commentary or analyis (and FDL's failure to enforce it's own rules) could and would be cited by an attorney as evidence of a pattern of unacceptable activity in any IP action aimed at harassing or shutting down MyFDL or FDL itself.
That's why MyFDL's very liberal and relaxed rules are there.

markfromireland August 5th, 2012 at 11:57 am 11
In response to donkeytale  3
Nonsense, disagreement expressed in the form of mockery of a posting that well and truly deserved to be mocked does not constitute trolling. 'Nor as you have falsely alleged have I tried to "shut you down".
You might like to note that your immediate resort to accusations of bad faith and censorship says many things about you and the standards of the intellectual and political milieu in which you normally operate - none of them good.

donkeytale August 5th, 2012 at 3:42 pm 12
In response to markfromireland  9
No copyright laws were broken, counselour, as you would have known if you had first done some basic research instead of making an ASS (out of) u mption.
If no copyright laws were broken, then the fair use rule is not applicable, counselour. No wonder you feel the need to offer extenuating alibis after the fact to the moderator.
And suck up to him shamelessly at the same time.
And take note also, Judge Dakine. You're forgiven your cautious "err".
Next time you want to play "Blog Cop", Officer Mark from Ireland, at least try to get your facts straight before em BARE ASSING yourself again.

donkeytale August 5th, 2012 at 3:51 pm 13
In response to markfromireland  11
You a lawyer?
Hopefully, not malpracticing anymore, if this thread is any evidence of your "abilities."

donkeytale August 5th, 2012 at 3:58 pm 14
In response to dakine01  7
Jane can contest the idea any time she wants.
Tell her to bring the income statement and the balance sheet. I'll be more than happy to apologize after she proves how little she benefits from this blog and the bloggers (including you).
Unlike Atty Mark from Ireland, however, I need facts.
I'm sure she is doing FDL purely as a mission of mercy for a benighted blogosphere solely out of the goodness of her heart.

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Fairloon's getting his material from (0.00 / 0)

That one was via The Progressive Right Woos Left Progressive Radio Network.

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Al-Akhbar a great source for not-permitted-in-the-empire Syria points of view! (0.00 / 0)

1. Good to see support for and reporting about the peaceful (and anti-imperialist) anti-Assad activists in Syria: Activists in Syria: Muffled by Violence

2. Good to see insight into the cluelessness, oddness and weaknesses of a wealthy son of a dictator who's become one himself: The Eccentricities of Bashar al-Assad (by the nearly always awesome As'ad AbuKhalil)

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

Iranian snipers in Syria (4.00 / 1)
Syrian regime 'importing snipers' for protests

SYRIA is deploying large numbers of Hezbollah and Iranian snipers as "military consultants" to murder anti-regime protesters, a senior government defector has told The Times.

The salaries of the marksmen are paid through a slush fund replenished with US dollars flown in from Iran, according to Mahmoud Haj Hamad, who was the treasury's top auditor at the Defence Ministry until he fled Syria last month.

The same fund is used to pay the Shabiha, the gangs of thugs who have joined the state security services in torturing and killing protesters.

Mr Hamad, appalled at the destruction of cities by the armed forces, fled Syria with his family last month. His account is the first by a senior insider to confirm the presence of foreign forces in Syria to help to prop up the regime.

Even as the government was blaming the uprising on plots by its Arab neighbours and "foreign elements", it was turning to its regional allies to help to suppress the protests.

"The Syrian intelligence weren't qualified, they didn't have decent snipers or equipment," he said in an interview. "They needed qualified snipers from Hezbollah and Iran."

Both have tight military ties with the regime of President Assad, a member of the Alawite sect, a sub-group of the Shia branch of Islam.

Mr Hamad said: "At the beginning there were hundreds, then when things started to get worse they started to bring in more outsiders. The numbers were huge - in the thousands."

The foreign reinforcements are prized by the regime for their street-fighting abilities, having crushed dissent in Iran and Lebanon.

Mr Hamad said that he could see the men living in compounds around his office on the 12th floor of a Ministry of Defence building in the Damascus neighborhood of Kafar Souseh, a facility shared by military intelligence.

what a coincidence (0.00 / 0)
BEIRUT-Heavy explosions shook the Syrian capital Saturday and helicopters circled overhead as rebels appeared to be renewing their offensive in the city, witnesses and activists said.


Separately, Iranian state television reported gunmen snatched a bus filled with 48 Iranian pilgrims from a Damascus suburb Saturday as they headed to visit a shrine holy to Shiites.

The abduction was the largest single kidnapping of Iranians in Syria, where several smaller groups of Iranians have been snatched in recent months. It came as regime forces were pounding the neighborhood of Tadamon, on the southern outskirts of the Damascus, trying to uproot one of the last rebel-held areas in the city.

The pilgrims had just left their hotel on Saturday and were headed by bus to the Sayeda Zeinab mosque, a holy shrine for Shiite Muslims in a suburb south of the capital, when they were taken, Iran's Arabic language, state-owned TV station Al-Alam said, citing an official at the Iranian embassy in Damascus.

Iran's English-language state station, Press TV, blamed "terrorists" for the abduction, echoing language used by the Syrian regime (and fairfraud) to describe the rebels it has been battling for the past 17 months in an uprising that has claimed 19,000 lives.

Mainly Shiite Iran is a close ally to the Syrian regime, which is dominated by the Alawites, an offshoot of Shiite Islam. Iranians have been targeted several times by gunmen from the Sunni-dominated opposition.

sure right

Iranian pilgrims, what a crock! Undoubtedly, this was a busload of snipers sent by Iran's imperialist gov't to Syria.


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no surprise (5.00 / 1)

FSA: Iranian kidnapped in Syria are Revolutionary Guards

Al-Arabiya TV aired footage on Sunday of the "Free Syrian Army" abduction of 48 Iranians in Damascus in which an FSA officer charges the hostages of being elite Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

FSA captured 48 of the shabiha (militiamen) of Iran who were on a reconnaissance mission in Damascus, said a man dressed as an officer of the Free Syrian Army, in the video screened by the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya TV

"During the investigation, we found that some of them were officers in the Revolutionary Guards, he said, showing documents taken from one of the men, who appeared in the background.

Iranian state TV reported yesterday that gunmen kidnapped 48 Iranian pilgrims visiting a holy site revered by Shiites in a suburb of the Syrian capital, Damascus.

What kind of pilgrim go to Syria specially in and around Damascus where the government forces are indiscriminately bombing with Aircraft and artillery at the same time the Sunni resistance are trying to fight back. This is a war zone and these supposed pilgrim are going there to worship!

Down with Iranian imperialism!


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of Iranian imperialists

oh yeah, the religiosity, peaceful nature and divine holiness are pouring out of these dour looking rev guard aholes..

fairgoneoffthedeepend: "They're pilgrims eye says!"


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15 Egyptian guards killed (0.00 / 0)
EL-ARISH, Egypt (AP) - Masked gunmen killed 15 Egyptian guards Sunday at a security checkpoint along the border with Gaza and Israel, attacking with automatic rifles and weapons mounted on their vehicles, security and health officials said.

Egypt blamed Islamist militants from Gaza and Egypt's troubled Sinai desert.

The Israeli military said the attack was part of a plot to abduct an Israeli soldier, and two vehicles commandeered by the attackers crashed into Israel, where one blew up.

In a statement, Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Israel's military and the internal security agency "thwarted an attack that could have injured many. The militants' attack methods again raise the need for determined Egyptian action to enforce security and prevent terror in the Sinai."

The attack took place around sunset in the Egyptian border town Rafah, when the troops were having the traditional meal at the end of the daily fast during the holy month of Ramadan.

Egyptian state TV said the attack on the checkpoint was carried out by Islamist militants. It quoted a security official who said 13 troops were killed in the attack coordinated between Palestinians who entered Egypt from Gaza and Egyptians in Sinai.

Emergency services official Ahmed el-Ansari later told Egypt's news agency that 15 were killed in the attack. He said seven were wounded by gunfire.

State TV said Egypt's President Mohammed Morsi called for an emergency meeting with the military following the attack.

It was one of the bloodiest attacks in Sinai in years, underlining the growing lawlessness of the Egyptian territory, where security forces have become targets of militants, some loosely linked with al-Qaida.

Israeli military spokeswoman Lt. Col. Avital Leibovich said one vehicle exploded, and Israeli aircraft struck the second one, killing an unspecified number of militants trying to escape. Israeli government spokesman Ofir Gendelman said seven militants were killed, four on the Israeli side and three in Egypt.

She said Israeli soldiers were combing the area for other militants who might still be on the Israeli side of the border. The military instructed Israeli civilians to stay inside their homes.

An Egyptian military official said Egyptian troops were pursuing the militants who returned to Egypt. He said the attackers used three vehicles.

A former Egyptian intelligence officer close to the military, Sameh Seif el-Yazel, told state TV the attack began at another checkpoint inside Rafah, where the militants took the armored vehicles and headed toward the border checkpoint. He said the militants in the seized car drove about 25 meters into Israel before Israeli troops attacked them. Some fled back into Egypt, he said.

Egyptian officials have been warning of a deteriorating security situation in Sinai, where militants have taken advantage of a security vacuum in the area following the uprising that toppled longtime President Hosni Mubarak last year.

The security official said the attack set off clashes with the gunmen.

The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to reporters.

In a statement posted on the website of Gaza's Hamas leaders, Hamas says it "condemns the ugly crime committed today against the Egyptian soldiers, and send its condolences to the families of the victims, to Egypt's president and to his government." Hamas did not fix blame for the attack.


Hamas did not fix blame for the attack, but Hamas knows who carried out the attack. They came from Gaza.


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In a tense scene, hundreds of Egyptians gathered at Al-Rashdan Mosque in Cairo's Nasr City district around midday on Tuesday to attend the funeral service held for the 16 Egyptian guards killed at the Egypt-Gaza border on Sunday.

Security forces were heavily deployed around the mosque, and several of the surrounding streets were blocked off.

Getting close to the mosque, Ahram Online found families of the killed soldiers, as well as some public figures, mourners and many angry protesters.

The group was split between those who had made it inside the mosque to pray for the killed soldiers and the rest who waited outside in anger, chanting almost without pause, and at times fighting with each other.

Protesters mainly chanted against President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, describing them as "betrayers of the country" and claiming that the Brotherhood collaborated with Hamas, which they accuse of involvement in the killing of Egyptian soldiers.

Down with the rule of the Supreme Guide of the Brotherhood" and "The Brotherhood are agents and betrayers" were among the slogans that were chanted.

The infuriated protesters also kicked out any citizen whom they suspected to be a member of the Islamist group. Most bearded men were labelled as members of the Brotherhood and were forced to leave.

The angry crowds did not physically assault any of them, but on several occasions they pushed them away. "You kill the person, then walk in his funeral," many protesters shouted, while forcing the suspected members of the Brotherhood to leave.

Most of the protesters interviewed by Ahram Online at the scene expressed support for former presidential candidate and Mubarak-era prime minister Ahmed Shafiq, and Tawfiq Okasha, a controversial media figure, as well as the military council.

No one in Egypt wants him [Morsi]; many of those who voted for him, did it for money," said Soad Hassan, 58.

Inside the mosque the atmosphere was also electric. Hisham Qandil, Morsi's newly-appointed prime minister, was present at the prayers and was physically assaulted by protesters. Several protesters threw their shoes at Qandil when he was inside the mosque.

Other public figures also attended the prayers, including former presidential candidate Abdel-Moneim Abul-Fotouh, the Al-Azhar Grand Imam, former prime ministers Kamal El-Ganzouri and Essam Sharaf, and MP in the now-dissolved parliament, Mohamed Abu Hamed.

Protesters not only condemned the Brotherhood, but also many of them begged army officials as they passed by to end what they called "the rule of Morsi."

"Isn't this enough of the Brotherhood's rule? We want you back," repeated one of the protesters as an army officer left the mosque. The army officer stopped, looked the man in the eyes and asked him to bear with them, explaining that they are with the people.

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Instead of being united and raise above our differences , the funeral turned in to a political statement against the Muslim brotherhood and the democratically elected president Morsi throughout the funeral by Okasha , Abu Hamed and Bakry supporters from the Pro-SCAF and Pro-Mubarak using the army and the martyrs.


The absence of President Morsi, the supreme commander of armed forces from the funeral of his officers and soldiers , the biggest sin he has ever committed in his month and couple of weeks rule. There is no good or enough justification for this horrible sin when it comes to his image in the eyes of the public.


He is weakening himself by his decision.He is losing the public as well  Already now people are saying that he was afraid to go for fear to be attacked by his opponents despite he is the president who got the presidential guards in his side. I believe he should have gone because those big mouths would dare to throw him with shoes like the prime minister in the end of the day , he should have gone because if he were attacked the Egyptians who look high to the position of the president as the symbol of Egypt will not accept this. Now he is losing more support , more sympathy from the people. He is insisting to show himself as a weak president who does not even fight to get more powers.


The absence of the Muslim brotherhood and Freedom and Justice Party in the funeral was noticeable. They should have been there to prove that they are part of the society , to defend themselves against the growing accusations that as Islamists they are responsible for the attack.

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free pussy riot (4.00 / 1)
Jailed feminist punk rockers Pussy Riot compared themselves to persecuted Soviet-era writers Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Joseph Brodsky on the final day of their trial in Moscow today. Their verdict is set for next Friday, August 17th.

"I, like Solzhenitsyn, believe that words will crush concrete," said Pussy Riot's Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, standing in front of a slit in the glass and metal cage where the band's three members have been held throughout their trial. "We sit in a cage, but we didn't lose. And the dissidents didn't lose. Disappearing in psychiatric wards and jails, they convicted the regime."

"At Brodsky's trial, his poems were also dubbed 'so-called poems' and weren't read - just like the witnesses just watched our video on the Internet," added another band member, Maria Alyokhina. "I am not afraid of you. You can take away my 'so-called' freedom, but you can never take my inner freedom."

The room exploded in applause after each of their speeches.


The eight-day trial - conducted in the same Moscow courtroom where jailed oil tycoon and Putin opponent Mikhail Khodorkovsky was tried in 2005 - is widely seen as a political show trial meant to warn Russia's opposition against challenging Putin's authority.

Defense lawyers expect a guilty verdict for Pussy Riot. While prosecutors have requested three years in prison for each band member - less than the maximum seven years - the defense is hoping for a more lenient punishment. They have announced plans for a world-wide rally to support Pussy Riot on the day of the verdict.

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I don't usually read your posts (4.00 / 1)
I tend to only check out anything new from my handler, donkeytale. Touche Mr. Bond grabbing the attention of my little head with free pussy.  

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raw n violent video images reporter James Foley collected in Aleppo.


Assad is one bloodthirsty monster, fully supported in this revolting bloody horror by the Iranian regime and Hezbollah.


wait..... (0.00 / 0)
eye thought Iran's nuclear program is strictly peaceful. fairoffthedeepend, how do you respond to this Hezbollah ahole?


yes, this racist, genocidal Hezbollah ahole wants to finish off the zionist enterprise Jewish state. Note he contradicts himself tho.

On the one hand he claims it will create a balance of terror, true Iran is a terror sponsoring state (another admission) but in reality Israel's nukes create a balance all their own given Israel's surrounded by 300 million Arabs and a lunatic iranian regime. On the udder hand he claims it will finish off the Jewish state. So where's the balance genius?

hmmm, Oh I get it, this guy Nazi fuck, eye tells ya, heez killin' me!

Once a "balance of terror" is accomplished, meaning iran gets nuclear weapons Syria, Hezfuckwads, Hamas, Iran and the aholes now in the Sinai can launch and unending missile and terror campaign on the tiny Jewish state, protected by iran's nuclear umbrella. So by attaining nuclear weapons iran sees an endgame wrt Israel's existance.

at least this twisted fuck is honest. hey uber leftist anti_Jew loons, step up and admit you endorse this guy's vision.

Boot, also note the typical inversion tactic on display. Contrary to his propaganda, it's the Arabs who have launched countless aggressions against the Jewish state.

So fairoffthedeepend, please explain why this racist, genocidal Hez ahole is talking about an iranian nuclear weapon when you have continually claimed that all Ajad and company have ever wanted is peaceful nuclear energy.

thx in advance.


The New York Times, yet again, justifies war crimes by the Free Syrian Army (0.00 / 0)

The New York Times, yet again, justifies war crimes by the Free Syrian Army

"The shabiha's behavior, some activists said, contributes to the kind of rage that led rebels to summarily execute several people suspected of being shabiha members in a video from Aleppo that emerged last week."  And the article does not mention something that many Syrians talk about: that many of the crimes reported in the article are perpetrated by the Free Syrian Army gangs themselves.  

PS I expect the Times to start publishing such sentences soon: "And activists added that beheadings and chopping off limbs is a natural and logical and understandable reaction to the crimes of the Asad regime."  Can you imagine if they ever used that language to justify Arab violence against Israelis???

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

"Qatar offered Syrian ambassador $5.8 million for defection" (0.00 / 0)

Qatar offered Syrian ambassador $5.8mn for defection - report
Published: 11 August, 2012, 16:06

Qatar's ambassador in Mauritania allegedly offered his Syrian counterpart an advance payment of US$1 million and a monthly salary of $20,000 over 20 years, trying to convince the diplomat to defect and voice support for the opposition.

Hamad Seed Albni was also offered a permanent residence in the Qatari capital Doha, but refused the proposition, claims Lebanese-based Al-Manar TV. The diplomat reportedly called the offer a "blatant interference" in Syria's affairs and warned not to come up with such initiatives anymore.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

Jewish refugees (0.00 / 0)
It is about fuckin' time this massive Arab crime against Jews gets some play....

Last week, several Point of No Return readers pointed out Lara Friedman's piece in the Daily Beast entitled 'Exploiting Jews from Arab Countries'. Here at last is a rebuttal by Lyn Julius, accusing Friedman of denigrating the rights of Jewish refugees, cross posted from the Daily Beast and Point of No Return.

For Lara Friedman, a lobbyist for Americans for Peace Now, the sun was not shining last week. Jews from Arab countries are being cynically exploited, she claimed on Open Zion, by a two-pronged drive that seeks to abolish the hereditary status of Palestinian refugees, while pushing for the rights of Jews from Arab Countries. A Congressional Bill, coupled with an Israeli diplomatic initiative, will, she fears, pit the refugees against each other.

Jewish refugees from Arab countries do indeed outnumber Palestinian refugees- by 850,000 to 750,000. According to economist Sidney Zabludoff, Jews lost 50 percent more in assets. Two sets of refugees were created after 1948-one by violence and persecution, the other by war. Jewish refugees were absorbed in Israel and the West; the Palestinians were left to fester in camps.

But the new initiatives do not, as Friedman alleges, set new terms for the peace agenda: they mean to correct a historic distortion.

Friedman's main argument echoes the radical Marxist professor Yehuda Shenhav: after conceding that Jews from Arab countries have legitimate rights, she proceeds to question if Jews were 'refugees' at all-a 'degrading' term. Although Yisrael Yeshayahu and Shlomo Hillel, who arrived before Israel was born, are on record as saying they came as Zionists, they are exceptional. Jews fled because certain push factors made life hell after 1948 - murderous riots, anti-Jewish incitement, arrests, executions.

For ethnocentric reasons, Israel discouraged the Jews from seeing themselves as refugees, but as immigrants returning to their ancestral homeland. Bizarrely, Friedman seems to believe that unless Jews want to return to their countries of birth, they cannot be real refugees: "They are either refugees, or they are new immigrants-they can't be both."

I say they can be both. Were they dispossessed, their ancient, pre-Islamic communities destroyed, their families dismembered-of their own free will? Did Jews choose to spend up to 13 years in tents or huts(ma'abarot) with inadequate sanitation and food?

What would Friedman say about the 200,000 Jews who did not flee to Israel, but found refuge in the West? Read this refugee's comment to Friedman's piece:

"Less than one month after the Six Day War...We left with one suitcase each. Leaving everything behind was the least of our concerns, although we had lived well in Casablanca, Morocco. Our primary concern was to get on that plane bound for Paris because staying in our country meant risking our lives. In Paris, we had to live in a dingy, one-bedroom apartment with no bathroom, no hot water, and lots of rats."

Undeniably, Jews arrived as refugees. But they ceased being refugees once they were given citizens' rights in their new countries. It is the Palestinians, consigned to squalid camps as political pawns, who have been cynically exploited, denied a 'right of resettlement' in their host countries and fed the delusion of return. A humanitarian solution would demand for them full citizenship, property ownership rights and jobs in Arab countries.

Here's another Friedman fallacy: Palestinians are not responsible for what happened to Jewish refugees. Yet the two issues are linked. The Palestinian leadership pushed for the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Arab countries, while driving the Arab League into the 1948 war against Israel.

The pro-Nazi Palestinian leader, Haj Amin al-Husseini, instigated the Farhud pogrom against the Jews of Iraq in 1941. He sought Nazi license to exterminate Jews in Arab countries as well as Palestine " in the same way as the problem was resolved in the Axis Countries."Before the mass Palestinian exodus, the Arab League hatched a postwar, coordinated Nuremberg-style plan to persecute their Jewish citizens as enemy aliens.

The expulsion of Jews from Arab states and Arab genocidal intentions against the fledgling State of Israel were essentially two sides of the same coin.

An involuntary exchange of populations took place. Jews may yearn for the countries of their birth, but as long as these remain hostile and dangerous, return is inconceivable. And if one set of refugees cannot return, neither should the other. But both sets of refugees should be able to claim to compensation-the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs has proposed an international fund.

Unless the claims of both sets of refugees are dealt with equally, a final peace settlement will not be based on truth.

By what right can Lara Friedman denigrate the rights of half the Jewish population of Israel, who descend from refugees of Arab and Muslim lands? What is truly degrading is her denial of Jewish refugee rights and belittling of Jewish suffering. Justice for Jewish refugees is an unresolved human rights issue with no statute of limitations. Its pursuit is more, not less, likely to achieve reconciliation between the two peoples.

goddamn fuckin' right

and of curse, Jews are indigenous to Palestine, having lived there for thousands of years, unlike the white devil genocidal interlopers here on Native American land.

Eye'm talkin' to yu.



mubros go for broke (0.00 / 0)
with egypt reeling from the recent Sinai attack by islamists which killed 16 soldiers, Morsi has decided it's an advantageous time to try to consolidate his and the mubros power.

President Mohamed Morsi's decision on Sunday to retire top army leaders was taken in consultation with Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, newly appointed Deputy Defence Minister General Mohamed El-Assar told Reuters on Sunday.

"The decision was based on consultations with the field marshal and the rest of the military council," General El-Assar, who had been in charge of the military's armaments division under Tantawi, said.

In a surprise decision on Sunday afternoon, Morsi retired Tantawi, Egypt's long-serving minister of defence and commander-in-chief of the Egyptian Armed Forces. He also retired Army Chief-of-Staff Sami Anan.

The army officer in charge of media relations for Egypt's Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), however, said he was unaware of any statements issued by El-Assar.

"The SCAF has not made any official statements," said Hany Badran, a major in the Egyptian Army's morale department. "And I don't know about any statements made by El-Assar."

Essam El-Erian, vice president of the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party (FJP), for his part, made some statements following Morsi's decisions suggesting the move could run up against opposition in the coming period.

El-Erian praised the decisions via Twitter, saying they had served to "thwart the plans of the counter-revolution and expose the third party, which wants to obstruct the path of Egypt's democratic transition."

In other statements, El-Erian called on FJP members to take to the streets to show solidarity with Morsi in an effort to "pre-empt any moves against his decisions," which, he said, represented "the second wave of the Egyptian people's revolution."

meanwhile nobody's heard from Tantawi yet but if the mubros are signalling that trouble is brewing it seems pretty clear that Tantawi and other military officials are none too pleased....

we shall see


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Like many of the twists and turns that have complicated Egypt's fraught transition to civilian, democratic rule, Sunday's announcement was mired in legal uncertainty-offering a potential opening for the courts to block the move. Mr. Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood backers have sparred with Egypt's judicial system, which is stocked with anti-Islamist judges appointed by Mr. Mubarak.

While Mr. Morsi was within his rights to sack Field Marshal Tantawi and his top officers, experts say he may have exceeded legal bounds when he canceled a so-called "supplemental constitutional declaration" that the military issued in late June.

That declaration allowed the armed forces to award themselves expansive authority, including the power to draft and pass legislation, veto decisions by a committee charged with drafting a new constitution and final say in waging war and decisions related to the military's budget.

The Supreme Constitutional Court has already ruled that the military's constitutional declaration is legal. Reversing the ban might put Mr. Morsi's presidency on yet another collision course with the court system.

"This is a civilian led putsch. It's extralegal," said Michael Hanna, an Egypt expert at the New York-based Century Foundation, a progressive think tank. "It requires for the supreme constitutional court to cease to be a binding force. I don't think there's any other way around it."

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mubros face legal challenge (0.00 / 0)
CAIRO (Reuters) - An Egyptian court is to hear the first legal challenge to a decree issued by Islamist President Mohamed Mursi that removed curbs on his powers imposed by the army.

The challenge was filed in Egypt's administrative court by Mohamed Salem, a lawyer who has already tried to have Mursi's children, two of whom hold Egyptian and U.S. passports, stripped of their Egyptian nationality.

"He (Mursi) wants to bring back the totalitarian regime and create a new dictator, but from the Brotherhood," Salem told Reuters on Tuesday. "He was sworn in based on the constitutional declaration."

The military leadership that took control of Egypt after the overthrow of autocratic leader Hosni Mubarak issued its constitutional declaration in June, before Mursi won the first presidential election since Mubarak's departure.

The declaration reined in the presidency's powers, including giving the army legislative power in the absence of parliament. The generals dissolved parliament on the basis of a court order.

Mursi's counter-decree, issued on Sunday, handed him as president the lawmaking powers taken by the army and, in principle, control over army affairs. He also stripped the military leadership of its right to choose a new body to rewrite the constitution if the existing constituent assembly fails in its task.

The courts have proved a crucial battleground in Egypt's transition to democracy and on several occasions have determined the path of political feuds between elected Islamists and the military, which ruled Egypt for 60 years.

Mursi was the Muslim Brotherhood's candidate for the presidential election.

More legal challenges to Mursi's latest decree could emerge. A member of the Supreme Constitutional Court has already questioned the legality of his decision. That court overruled an earlier bid by Mursi to reinstate the Islamist-led parliament.

Mursi announced his decision to scrap the constitutional declaration on Sunday and at the same time sent the most senior generals into retirement, replacing them with younger officers.

Islamists and even some of Mursi's liberal rivals praised the decision as a step towards pushing back the military and establishing civilian rule. But some critics accused him of trying to monopolize power.

A date for the court's first session has yet to be announced.

so there's a goode chance the court will rule that morsi's extra legal power grab is illegal. If that happens it remains to be seen whether morsi and the mubros will respect the court's decision, or steamroll over it.

Morsi took the oath of office before the Higher Constitutional Court (HCC) under the same very constitutional addendum he has now declared null and void, and thus the revocation of the annex contradicts with his pledge, opined judge Tahany El-Gebaly, current member of the HCC.

She told Ahram Online: "Morsi has sworn that he will respect the constitution and the law, and since Egypt has a temporary constitution issued on 30th March [part of it was voted for through a referendum and the rest introduced by the military council] he should have abided by them."

"A president does not have the power to abrogate a constitution, even a temporary one; Morsi should have remained committed to the Constitutional Declaration and to constitutional legitimacy."

Indeed, other legal experts echoed similar sentiments.

Essam El-Islamboli, a veteran cassation lawyer, stressed that: "Morsi does not have the authority to cancel the addendum to the Constitutional Declaration, because under that constitutional chart he took the oath as the new president.

"This Constitutional Declaration and its addendum were among the specialties of those in power [SCAF] before the inauguration of Morsi. Only interim authorities that come to power after uprisings have the right to cancel a constitution."


"After the 2011 Constitutional Declaration, the SCAF was granted what is called the revolutionary constitutional legitimacy and that is what enabled the body to make decisions during its interim tenure," Judge Mohamed Hamed El-Gamal explained to Ahram Online.

"Through that legitimacy, the SCAF dissolved the People's Assembly and that is why it introduced the constitutional addendum to assume legislative authorities, and that addendum stipulates the SCAF's powers cannot be touched.

"Only the SCAF is constitutional authorised to revoke the addendum because it is the body that has the revolutionary constitutional legitimacy; not the president, cabinet or parliament, if there is one. Thus, Morsi's decision is illegitimate, and also the following decisions that prompted reshuffles.

"Morsi is a president who was elected under a certain constitutional system; he cannot just turn against it."

of curse, the military seems none too concerned about any of it. Tantawi got some state medal, he's protected from any trials against him, he's got a pension, he's got a palatial estate, no doubt....the military has come to some arrangement with the mubros, so if the court rules against morsi, who will enforce the decision?

the street? it's possible but eye doubt it.

but who knows what double dealings lurk beneath the surface.....


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