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The Troll Wars, Part IV [UPDATED!] [TWICE!!]

by: donkeytale

Fri Dec 30, 2011 at 10:42:38 AM EST


In Part III we learned that someone known anonymously online as "Aaron Worthing," a self-proclaimed lawyer, was planning to file a legal response to a motion made by Brett Kimberlin, who seeks to compel Worthing's testimony (and therefore, his outing) in Kimberlin's ongoing legal wrangle with the blogger known as "Socrates".

Kimberlin began filing motions within days after winning a default award of $100 and a permanent injunction against Socrates. In his latest filing, for which a hearing to "show cause" is scheduled in a Maryland state court on January 9, 2012, Kimberlin complains that Socrates has continued to defame and interfere against his "business relations" by posting comments about the case on blogs, including this one. Kimberlin has sought contempt sanctions as well as criminal charges be brought against Socrates.

Docket Date: 11/17/2011 Docket Number: 100
Docket Description: MOTION, CONTEMPT
Docket Type: Motion Filed By: Plaintiff Status: Open
Docket Text: PLAINTIFF'S SECOND MOTION TO FIND DEFENDANT "SOCRATES" IN COMTEMPT AND ATTACHMENTS, FILED. (ATTACHMENTS REMOVED AND PLACED IN THE EXHIBIT ROOM)

Docket Date: 11/21/2011 Docket Number: 101
Docket Description: LINE
Docket Type: Docket Filed By: Plaintiff
Docket Text: PLAINTIFF'S NOTICE OF APPLICATION TO MARYLAND STATE'S ATTORNEY FOR CRIMINAL CONTEMPT CHARGES AGAINST DEFENDANT "SOCRATES" AND ATTACHMENTS FILED. (L/P)

Docket Date: 12/09/2011 Docket Number: 102
Docket Description: ORDER, SHOW CAUSE/COURT
Docket Type: Docket Filed By: Court
Ruling Judge: RUPP, NELSON W JR
Docket Text: ORDER OF COURT (RUPP, J./WHITTIER, M.) TO SHOW CAUSE/COURT ON JANUARY 9, 2012 AT 10:00 A.M. FOR THIRTY (30) MINUTES, ENTERED. (COPIES MAILED)

Worthing does not wish to relinquish his anonymity for what he considers a "fishing expedition" by Kimberlin to out him. On his blog last week, he promised not only to reveal his heretofore presumed legal prowess to the world but also to present in his own response to Kimberlin's motion compelling reasons for the court to dismiss the permanent injunction against Socrates, since it is now in his best interests to do so on his own behalf.

Last night, Worthing posted his legal response:

http://allergic2bull.blogspot....  

donkeytale :: The Troll Wars, Part IV [UPDATED!] [TWICE!!]
Argument

This court should quash the Plaintiff's [Brett Kimberlin's] subpoenas, deny Plaintiff's motion to compel and grant Mr. Worthing a protective order primarily because of the Plaintiff's misconduct in this case generally, and specifically in seeking this discovery.  

First, the Plaintiff, a convicted perjurer has lied to this court in this case twice in the hearing of November 14, 2011, and misled this court on a third point.  Specifically he falsely stated that he was never returned to prison following a parole violation, that he was never a suspect in the murder of Julia Scyphers, and suggested that he had been secretly exonerated of one or more of the crimes he was convicted of.  In light of the Plaintiff's deception and this newly corrected understanding of the facts, the court should determine that the Plaintiff's reputation is so poor that it had not been harmed by the defendant.  

Second, in filing the motion to compel, the Plaintiff made four statements of fact that were either false or lacked any evidentiary support, and made two statements of fact that were so incomplete as to be misleading.  Further, there is powerful evidence that the Plaintiff seeks this information for an improper purpose, in violation of Maryland Rule §1-311.  

Finally, the Plaintiff has committed violations of Mr. Worthing's procedural rights..  Therefore this court should quash the subpoenas, deny the Plaintiff's motion to compel and even dismiss the injunction in its entirety, either because it was obtained under false pretenses or because the Plaintiff's hands are no longer clean.

Further the Plaintiff in this instant matter proposes to infringe upon a most precious Constitutional right: the right to engage in anonymous expression, practiced even by three of the Founders (James Madison, John Jay and Alexander Hamilton) in authoring the Federalist Papers under the pseudonym "Publius":

Anonymous pamphlets, leaflets, brochures and even books have played an important role in the progress of mankind. Great works of literature have frequently been produced by authors writing under assumed names. Despite readers' curiosity and the public's interest in identifying the creator of a work of art, an author generally is free to decide whether or not to disclose his or her true identity. The decision in favor of anonymity may be motivated by fear of economic or official retaliation, by concern about social ostracism, or merely by a desire to preserve as much of one's privacy as possible. Whatever the motivation may be, at least in the field of literary endeavor, the interest in having anonymous works enter the marketplace of ideas unquestionably outweighs any public interest in requiring disclosure as a condition of entry.  Accordingly, an author's decision to remain anonymous, like other decisions concerning omissions or additions to the content of a publication, is an aspect of the freedom of speech protected by the First Amendment.

McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n, 514 U.S. 334, 341-342 (1995) (internal quoatations, citations and footnotes omitted).

While this right to engage in anonymous expression is not absolute, the Plaintiff should be required to demonstrate a substantial relationship between the information sought and an overriding and compelling interest before obtaining Mr. Worthing's identity. The Plaintiff has failed to make that showing. Every single private, one-on-one communication between Mr. Worthing and [Socrates] is protected by attorney-client privilege. Meanwhile, with every single communication in the presence of third parties, Mr. Worthing's testimony is not necessary.  Since all of these communications are written and thus speak for themselves and with multiple non-anonymous witnesses, Mr. Worthing's testimony is not needed for authentication purposes.  Finally, the information in question is of little relevance and value.

If you have followed this series of dairies and have the time, please do indulge in Worthing's entire response, for it touches on several important legal issues, including matters of obvious importance to bloggers wrt the constitutional protections of anonymous free speech.

As an added bonus, you will also be treated to Socrates doing his "Perry Mason" schtick during his questioning of Brett Kimberlin under oath .

First, the Plaintiff lied in his November 14, 2011, hearing when asked about his parole violation.  In an exchange with [Socrates], the Plaintiff stated that he had not been sent back to prison after violating the terms of his parole:

[SOCRATES]: Were you released and then sent back to prison for a parole violation, for failure to pay compensation to the, Mrs. DeLong, the wife of Carl DeLong, who took his own life after those bombs tore off half his body?

BRETT KIMBERLIN: No, I wasn't.

This is directly contradicted by publicly available court documents.  First, Mr. Kimberlin was convicted of numerous offenses related to a series of terrorist attacks known as the Speedway Bombings:

Kimberlin was convicted as the so-called "Speedway Bomber," who terrorized the city of Speedway, Indiana, by detonating a series of explosives in early September 1978. In the worst incident, Kimberlin placed one of his bombs in a gym bag, and left it in a parking lot outside Speedway High School. Carl Delong was leaving the high school football game with his wife when he attempted to pick up the bag and it exploded. The blast tore off his lower right leg and two fingers, and embedded bomb fragments in his wife's leg. He was hospitalized for six weeks, during which he was forced to undergo nine operations to complete the amputation of his leg, reattach two fingers, repair damage to his inner ear, and remove bomb fragments from his stomach, chest, and arm. In February 1983, he committed suicide.

After being convicted of the bombings and related offenses, Kimberlin was sentenced to a fifty-year term of imprisonment for manufacturing and possessing a destructive device, and malicious damage by explosives with personal injury in violation of 26 U.S.C. §§ 5861(d) and (f), and 18 U.S.C. §§ 844(f) and (i). He received a concurrent twelve-year sentence for impersonating a federal officer, illegal use of a Department of Defense insignia, and illegal use of the Presidential Seal in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 912, 701, and 713, respectively, and a five-year term for receipt of explosives by a convicted felon in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 842(i)(1). Finally, he was given a four-year sentence by the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas on an earlier, unrelated conviction for conspiracy to distribute marijuana.

Therefore the Plaintiff's statement before this court that he was never sent back to prison due to his failure to honor his obligations to the widow Ms. Delong is a flat-out lie.

Further, this lie goes to the heart of the question of whether [Socrates] had defamed the Plaintiff at all.  Indeed, once it is cognizant of these facts, this court might reasonably wonder if it is possible to harm the Plaintiff's reputation at all.  See e.g. Jackson v. Longscope, 394 Mass. 577 (1985) (holding that a Plaintiff who had been convicted of multiple murders suffered no reputational harm due to false statements in the Boston Globe that he had raped his victims before killing them and had stolen a vehicle, because his reputation was so poor that it could not be further harmed).  Mr. Kimberlin has been convicted of a panoply of crimes including perjury, and setting bombs that terrified his community.  

"Kimberlin committed a truly monstrous crime.  He planted a bomb in a high school parking lot-an act that was random, brutal and targeted at children."  Editorial, The Friends of Brett Kimberlin, Washington Times, January 24, 1995, at A16.  

In most ordinary persons' minds, those bombings were acts of terrorism and especially after September 11, 2001, there is no person more despised in decent circles than the terrorist.  

Further, he has denied compensation owed to a grieving widow-a woman who had been widowed by his own criminal conduct.  At its heart, defamation law is not about protecting the world from every inaccuracy, but only the inaccuracies that harm a person's reputation.  Based solely on facts established in court records, Mr. Kimberlin's reputation is so poor it would be difficult, if not impossible, to harm it.  If there is no harm to his reputation, then he has failed to prove any defamation occurred.  Even if this plain fact, obscured in part by the Plaintiff's dishonesty before the tribunal, does not justify setting aside the default judgment against [Socrates], this court should dismiss the injunction against [Socrates] as being obtained by deceit.

Expect, dear readers, that this morning we will see the battle re-engaged across several blog fronts (for reference, links to these blogs are posted in The Troll Wars, Part III) and most immediately on Twitter, as the combatants seek the so-called higher ground of their endless spinning.

UPDATED

Another in a string of grate moments for the Fake Left: The "Gaped Crusader" Blog, after an incredibly ugly, ominous (in a pathetic, unintentionally comical sort of way) and threatening final post, has been whitewalled.

Yr. intrepid reporter wonders now about the, uhm, ongoing viability of the "Just Call Me Lefty" blog, which two days ago taunted "Aaron Worthing" as the "Coward of the County."

Worthing returned the favour of a bitch slap to "Lefty" as part of his epic legal filing:

In a particularly unhinged post, this anonymous author wrote, apparently disapproving of Mr. Worthing's participation in the Everyone Draw Mohammed Day protest (with apologies for the coarse language):

You Sir are one sick and twisted piece of total shit. You are garbage. You smell so bad I want to vomit when you come near. You want or believe we should have the right to offend? I am sure you are the light at any party. You remind me of that offensive guy everyone tries to run from when he walks in the door at a party. The guy who wears shit on his shoes so he can make people sick from the smell. Or the guy who shits in his pants so others will get sick of smelling it as you walk by. You set up a blog to offend people in the worst way, and you set it up as a coward would, unable and unwilling to stand up for yourself while doing it. In this man's army they call you what you are when you do such things, and that is that you are a COWARD, a stinking yellow belly, that is what you are Aaron (Fake Name) Worthing... A stinking coward. You probably got your ass beat at school like your good friend and butt buddy Patrick Frey. The both of you are stinking cowards who hide behind their computer screens and offend people for fun while you start fights with those who can't find you or even know who you are, and doing it all in the name of fun.

http://justcallmelefty.blogspo...

This would be the same blog that published recordings from [Socrates's] hearings, apparently illegally.

Socrates' counter-attack appears to be a full-on rout of the opposition, at least to-date, in the court of the infoboobtubes.

In the denouement, the Rockville, Maryland Courthouse will substitute for the Appomattox, Virginia Courthouse in this ungodly, uncivil war between the internet trolls of the Whiteysphere.

Which begs the musical question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

UPDATE 2

Socrates has now himself filed a series of five motions with the court, seeking to have the default judgement award reduced to $1 and no court costs. He also seeks to have the permanent injunction dismissed and be allowed to testify at the January 9, 2012 hearing via telephone.

Further, Socrates now requests that Brett Kimberlin be deemed by the court a public, rather than private person, for purposes of this litigation and finally, has asked the court to award him $100,000 for all the trouble he has been put through because of Kimberlin's lawsuit and the  aftermath.

http://davefromqueens2.blogspo...  

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Haha, the counter-attack is being mailed out tomorrow (5.00 / 1)
I have it done and simply have to copy it in writing for mailing. I am so poor, I have no printer. I came up with five motions. I'll post them asap. But it's kind of more important to mail them to the court and the Speedway Bomber than to put it up as a blog post. Let's just say, this ship has steered a new course. The bad guys punched themselves out. I've got a gut as strong as Ali's. Team Numbnuts is finally getting karma kickback from dharma. They are getting their internet asses kicked. Each and every one of those fake lefty sluts is a sadistic sociopath getting what he deserves.

I never doubted you, Champ, not for one single solitary second of the Thrilla in Vanilla (trademark patent pending) (5.00 / 1)
Wonder if Generalissimo Laura Giovanni will now apologise and kiss my ass for her hysterical attack on me from two weeks ago?

haha, not holding. my. breath. dick.

[;o0


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Laura's a piece of whiteysphere trash (4.00 / 1)
The cavalry finally arrived. This thingie is catching like wildfire. Fricken classy constitutional lawyers are now into it. Worthing put on a clinic. Let me add that ye have only seen the tip of the iceberg for the amount of pure horseshit that was peddled on November 14th. In about three weeks sooner or later I will have access to the audio. I will not hold back, and the Speedway Bomber will be exposed for putting me through hell with this frivolous lawsuit. I may have to thank him for reopening the case. I'm making another push to have the default reversed and be awarded compensation for the pain and suffering he put me through.

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Well, she was on my ass, not yours, thinking I am leading you straight you to the cooler. And if you look at it in a certain way (4.00 / 1)
Kimberlin re-opened the case because of comments that you made on this blog.

So you have lots of people to thank besides the Speedway Bomber.

Brynaert (who I like despite what everybody says about him) posted your comments, Laura allowed them, and I induced them. Laur is just inexperienced in the ways of the world, like a lot of fake lefties, and she covers her naivete with cynical bluster and profanity.

So really, you have more friends and more to thankful for than you give yourself credit for having. And you have done good, very good,  in your own wright, no one can take that away from you.

You are one holy dude, Champ.  


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Wakin' up from a dogmatic man cave slumber (5.00 / 1)
Even with the internet, late breaking news is hard to incorporate into one's schtick. I find that the update thingie tends to fall short.

Especially when you slide it to the bottom of your post. Duuuuuudddde.

Laura's always been on my ass. She was one of many who treated me like shit from the get go for apparantly no good reason. I don't understand people like that, basically cruel shites themselves.

You're nuts if you think I have friends looking out for me. Maybe Liberty Chick. Maybe. Aaron Worthing- an acquaintance. You? Gotta be honest. Unless we met in real life, or you coughed up more info, and uhm, actually whatever, I don't know, we went for some pints or .... Ok, you and Mandy are friends. There's The Last Name Left. Wow, three people!

And myself and you are barely friends. We are more like dudes who are in the same over 40 basketball league or the same college class or the proverbial wtf.

I've made a few friends through blogging you don't know. Only one of them is a true friend to this day.

The internet is extremely alienating.

You couldn't be more wrong about Ron Brynaert either. He is clearly working with Rauhauser and both are under the protection of some form of FBI or war on terror spy factory schtick.

Just look at Kimberlin's testimony where he fudges about some secret exoneration. Was that total science fiction, or is there some basis in reality? How does a dickcheese like Rauhauser evade criminal prosecution? How do certain assholes and con artists get away with such criminal activity? If Kimberlin is not charged with perjury, and Rauhauser is not arrested for cyber crimes, then fuck this, and fuck the system.

And what's up with a lawyer providing "Aaron Worthing" with pro bono representation, but I get nothing?

And what's up with no one giving me credit for scooping this story a year or two before anyone else came close to sniffing anything?  

You do seem to be sniffing a bit into the right area, with this Lamo connection. And weren't you the one who thought I was barking up the wrong tree by attacking conspiracy theory to beat down actual conspiracies? That I am nothing more than the ultimate conspiracy theorist? I was the right man at the right time to fight the internet matrix. I'm proud of my college schtick. I've got some nifty tools in the thinking and writing toolbox. As an idealistic dreamer, however, that's how it becomes more Gonzo-ishness than Cronkite-itis. That's the way it was or is or wt sassasparilla something fucking frick frack shit douche fatfuckfaces haha lol. p:>

Brynaert is a pig. He's part and parcel of convolution. He probably makes a crispy $500 per week from the FBI to go with his pizza delivery job. Rauhauser is most definitely some type of sleazy spy factory fuckstain.

I'm gonna call those attorneys who are representing "Aaron Worthing." Now there's a funny thing and Patterico too. They could be in total cahoots with FBI. Liberty Chick too. I'm not saying they are on their payroll. They probably aren't.

But they have authoritarian personalities. I am the only one who gets the big picture. I am the only one who poses a true threat to the internet status quo. I wish you could help more, but if you continue to muck around with cheesy tabloid sources who are probably deliberate misdirection, you end up being misdirection and limited hangout material yourself.

I've been vindicated. Brad Friedman is a con artist. Most people on the internet are LAMO and lamer. Fricken why I oughta. And there really is a weather modification program going on in full view. I just can't do nothing about it. I moved on. Oh man, maybe I will figure out my own way to sue Rauhauser, Kimberlin, and others, since apparently no one truly gives a shit about me. Obviously not Patterico, Worthing, or Breitbart. Liberty Chick might like me as a person, but she could be angling for the big scoop. It's a fucked up world, my friend. Stay thirsty. Fricken thank goody for my product placement gig. Though problem with that is I only get paid 11 cents per, not worth it.


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Say what you will about Brett Kimberlin, but his side burns rule. (0.00 / 0)
That's a pair that even Elvis would,ve been proud to call his own.


[ Parent ]
heh (3.00 / 2)
Fuck Elvis. According to Joe "poison tipped bullets" Gelarden (see: http://ronbryn.blogspot.com/20... which will be rewritten when I finish Mark "respected journalist" who works where since taking years to finish BK opus that never hit paperback - Singer's fanciful book), Kimberlin "claimed his brother taught him how to levitate and disappear."

I do not endorse this link...lol...but I'm sure Socrates will love it...

http://100777.com/node/713

note: Linda Thompson was the 2nd Continental Army's (Militia) Intelligence Service Station Chief who responded to the attack at Waco. She was the producer of the film "Waco, The Big Lie" - which showed the flame throwing tank firing up the building. She stood in the middle of the Waco town square, wearing camos & waving an AR-15 and begging for people to help save the Branch Davidians. She was yelling that if people didn't get their guns and help her defend them, that they would be burned to death.

Black Helicopters
by Linda Thompson

There is nothing cosmic, paranormal, or ethereal about black helicopters. They belong to the U.S. military, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, based in Ft. Cambell, Kentucky, in Hopkinsville, KY. They park many of the helicopters at different locations where they are used, however.

The only reason the color black is significant is that only this one military unit gets this particular type of paint for its helicopters, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment ("160th SOAR") in Ft. Campbell, Kentucky.
The paint is called "CARC" and it is used because it is chemically resistant and non-radar reflective .
Other military units do get this paint for use on airplanes and other craft, except helicopters, however. If you look at military webpages of aircraft, you will find plenty of pictures.

The 160th SOAR is a military special operations unit that began as an intentionally covert, illicit and illegal arm of what was formerly called "Delta Force," which was a branch of 5th Group, Special Forces, and a "reserve" branch called 12th Group, the way special forces was FORMERLY set up. It was operated and funded through CIA and this alliance continues to this day.

Many former members also are now prominent in the media, which is why it has been a relatively simple matter for them to run the stories calling people exposing the activity of the 160th "loonies" or claiming the helicopters are associated with "UFO" activity, etc., in efforts to keep the public ignorant of the true military source and illegal purposes of these craft and their pilots and unit members. Robert K. Brown, of Soldier of Fortune Magazine, and his patsy, James Pate, are two examples. Joe Gelarden of the Indianapolis Star-News (the same company also owns the Arizona Republic) is another. Governor O'Bannon's press secretary is another. U.S. Congressional Representative Dan Burton's Chief of Staff is another (straight out of the 160th before he worked for Burton). These are just a few examples out of dozens.

Placing members in such prominent locations, it is quite simple to undermine Congressional investigations and place stories prominently in the media discrediting any "leaks" of truthful information.  


[ Parent ]
Tiny Elvis reminds me of Aaron Worthing (3.00 / 2)
"Look how big that lamp is, that's huge," and "I'm just saying it's a big salt shaker," Tiny Elvis tells his regular-sized crew who find all his jokes funny.

And don't fuck with Tiny Elvis.  He can split your lip with 79 kicks.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/2910...


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Why does Ron Brynaert run interference for the Speedway Bomber? (5.00 / 1)
Brynaert's girl Larisa Alexandrovna spread Kimberlin's lie about being exonerated. She even posted that Mark Singer wet his pants. Now Rona mocks Singer too. How the fuck can this douchebag present himself as a jounalist?

He was in bed with Raw Story when they were plugging VR's Michael Connell threatened by Karl Rove hoax. This post also includes way too much misdirection in regards to spinning kooky conspiracy theories. The king of ad hominens is both a troll and not entertaining.

Hey Ron, no one cares what you think. You have zero credibility. You make it less likely to recover any of it by getting in bed with Brett Kimberlin's exoneration hoax.


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Why do Patterico, Socrates, Aaron Worthing, Liberty Chick etc (5.00 / 1)
Why do Patterico, Socrates, Aaron Worthing, Liberty Chick etc
continue to insist - against all evidence or sanity - that I "run interference", "collaborate", "conspire", "get in bed with", etc with Brett Kimberlin, Neal Rauhauser or anyone else?

I've never said Brett Kimberlin wasn't a hoaxer.  Never said he wasn't a bomber, either.  Never said he got a super-secret deal from the Fringe Division because he taught everyone at Fox News - except for Shepard Smith and the libertarian judge and Weiner's ex since they can't be trusted - how to levitate, disappear and cloud the minds of all FBI agents so that Neal Rauhauser can get away with all the evils in the world.

That said, why the fuck are y'all obsessed with Brett Kimberlin?

And why do you all ignore hypnotism?

And why do you all like to trollishly harp on the bomber part when it's the murderer part which I do believe is menacing.  Just because Joe Gerlarden says so, doesn't mean I believe it.  The motives for the killing are more absurd than for the bombing, and the girl refused to speak to Mark Singer, who practically attacks her for it in his horrible out-of-sequence one-sided book.

That killing wasn't allowed in the bombing trial.  Much of Liberty Chick's report is based on the Gerlarden article which was written after Kimberlin was convicted of the bombing...and no one could understand why since there was no motive.

The real question is WHY THE FUCK did the Indy Star do a story on October 6, 2010, precisely when Andrew Breitbart and Patterico were hyping the Liberty Chick story that Socrates allegedly didn't help on, even though she obviously must have relied on his links when googling.

HBGary is the answer....but is that a hoax to prop up Brad Blog?


[ Parent ]
But in America (3.33 / 3)
Yes, it's deplorable, disgusting, immoral, undemocratic, trollish to menace, harass bother someone who served their time in prison already for a crime.

How can you defend mailing court motions to "speedway bomber"?  That's like figuratively setting the injunction on fire.

It's vile to send something like that to a person - if they were convicted a crime or whatever - so the mailman and neighbors and strangers see it.

Fine.  Report on what he did...mock his pals for backing him up...but continuing to harp on it and menacing people he works with or crappy, lying fraudsters in Velvet Revolution and other shitty blogs for being connected is vile, too.

You're like an angry mob in The Scarlet Letter, Frankenstein, etc......just like the way Neal and others were mocking your arrest.  I think you mix in some cool stuff with the trollery...and you are never boring, sir.


[ Parent ]
You don't have a clue (4.00 / 1)
You give me nothing but shit, but a person who set bombs yet claims secret exoneration is not deserving of your barbs. #getafuckingclue  

[ Parent ]
Dude, I think he's praising you here..... (2.00 / 1)
Just sayin.'

For a guy who out of pure shitluck has a Yale trained attorney defending you for free with one of the most epic pantsings I have ever seen performed anywhere, IMHO you are pressing your karmtic good fortune.

Besides, Ron has helped publicise your case and has said more good things about you than he has Rauhauser. His opinion of Kimberlin's past isn't really germane to your case. He's not one of your fanbois but he's played it pretty fair, all things considering.

Thus spaketh Donkeythustra.

 


[ Parent ]
I can't even rate this good point (3.00 / 1)
Ron hasn't done squat but make a mess in his panties. Methinks you enjoy posting on a blog with more action than what takes place here. You are nostalgic for the good old Political Flesh Feast or MeSoc Left Wing glory days. Heck, you should be grateful that between us, and us alone, we have taken over this blog and put it on the map.

[ Parent ]
I am all about pimping the gate, champ (3.00 / 1)
No question about that.

But, remember, it's to your benefit too. You get an 80/20 split, if what Bob Arum tells me is half accurate.

I think Ron Brynaert rocks n rolls.

I know there is herstory here.

But as Lou Reed said... "those were differnt times"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...


[ Parent ]
The split should be 95-5 for me (4.00 / 1)
Remember the protest for a better puppet show? I deserve better competition than this numbnut. Same with Rauhauser. And by the way, it appears Chet Uber deleted his riotous Project Vigilant post from FDL. I saved it from google cache.

[ Parent ]
Oh,cmon dude (5.00 / 1)
the rest of us can;t survive on five shitty points.

You're sounding like one of those Republican motherfuckers now....


[ Parent ]
Hahahah (5.00 / 1)
I laughed out loud for that one, but then upchucked a bit of my dinner.

[ Parent ]
Chateaubriand, no doubt (5.00 / 1)


[ Parent ]
Actually (5.00 / 1)
If i had really upchuckified, it would have been Japanese udon noodles. Ka ching! Another 11 cents.

[ Parent ]
spaken like a true insurance salesman n/t (3.00 / 2)


[ Parent ]
Is there are a breeze blowing in here? (0.00 / 0)
[ Parent ]
Hester Prynne and Frankenstein were smart enough (5.00 / 1)
not to sue Socrates.

And they didn't even have the knowledge of the "Streisand Effect" to guide them.

Although to be fair, it was Kid Kenoma, the gaped crusader and lefty who really brought the heat down on their own boy.


[ Parent ]
Or not reopen a case after you've "won" (5.00 / 1)
Great minds think alike. I was thinking of the Streisand Effect earlier today. The more the bad guys try to get my schtick ignored, the more it becomes easier to understand it has been spot on. As for Gaped Crusader, apparently that is Neal Fatfuckface, though I never figured out if that was proven. And that Ron has actually posted and shown respect to Kid shithead speaks volumes. Lefty is probably Neal too, though I've tended to ignore such criminal cyberstalking. And if you knew what was in the court files, and what Neal has posted, then you'd know it was really the bad guys themselves who have fucked up the most compared to what "outside lulzers" might have been up to.

[ Parent ]
You are all over the place (4.00 / 1)
I'm not gonna go back to your "article" on the Speedway bombings and Kimberlin to debate you. However, here you say that you don't deny he did the bombings, yet in your "article," you clearly intended to shed doubt on it.

Here you show up, because your precious ego was hurt. However, where is your self-proclaimed jounalist schtick concerning lies made by Brett Kimberlin under oath?

Maybe you are simply messed up and not in cahoots with him or Rauhauser. It seems you are.

It's tough to actually get a good read on wtf you are trying to accomplish. If it's an attempt to build up your opportunities for a career in journalism, you are totally fucking up such chances.

I busted the Michael Connell threatened by Karl Rove hoax. I accomplished a lot through my cybersleuthing. You have done squat but make a fool out of yourself.


[ Parent ]
If you recall, Matty jack promised an attack of the 4chan schticjers at FSZ once school let out (5.00 / 1)
(RIOTOUSS!)

but when they showed their schoolboy schtick it didn't actually stick in our milieu.


[ Parent ]
And where are they now? LOL!!!!! (5.00 / 1)
Maybe you should Donkratise MatttyJack, Melvin, and Commmmmentman for an update. And then throw up in some Howard X news.

[ Parent ]
I loves me some Howard X (3.00 / 1)
We made beautiful muzak together

[ Parent ]
I concede I was wrong with him about one thing (5.00 / 1)
I didn't appreciate his death to mankind and whatnot schtick. Yet then I found out that was an Ozzie Osbourne line. So well-played Howard X! And what a great name. His name in and of itself was riotous.

[ Parent ]
Howard X reules. But there is one thing he never learned about me and Juniper Lea (5.00 / 1)
[ Parent ]
Dude we should cater to the wider audience and not namedrop obscure fucks (3.00 / 1)
By the way, that might be the best. youtube. clip. evah.

I just don't get why you stopped embedding youtube videos.



[ Parent ]
I don't know. I'm sort of torn between mainstream acceptance (5.00 / 1)
and historic troll infamy.

Kind of prefer the latter, me slef.


[ Parent ]
Thar's the beauty of pffugeestan (5.00 / 2)
Ronny Boy just walked into a fistfight with a feather duster. He doesn't seem to understand how things work here. Or maybe he thinks people will read this and think, "Oh boy, Ronnie's right. That socrates is a supertroll, and he's simply trying to be a nice guy and fair and balanced." That's the ticket.

[ Parent ]
RIOTOUSS! (5.00 / 1)
http://my.firedoglake.com/chet...

3. I worked under contract and as an employee for companies in Omaha until 1997 when I took a job at the Omaha World Herald Companies and was tasked with completing what Neal Rauhauser started to do - build Omaha.com.

4. I left the World Herald because it was as right-wing as you could get, and I was a moderate democrat. I will avoid possible defamation suits by not detailing the way things worked in this multiple company conglomerate. I did my job, was paid and I left under good terms.



I noticed that dickhead's name being bandied about (5.00 / 1)
Of course that isn't Rauhauser. No way. Not a chance in hell. No one uses sock puppets to promote some sick cybersmear activities. I mean, someone probably hacked the wayback machine to make it seem Rauhauser admitted to being some sort of internet predator. He must be a great guy. He's a lefty. He's that, because he says he is. Brad Friedman is a great activist and journalist who has never been involved in peddling hoaxes. It seems Brett Kimberlin had nothing to do with the Speedway bombings, and we should trust that he and the Feds have a good reason to keep the details of that exoneration undisclosed. Santa Claus is a real person. Elvis had a love child with Barbara Walters. Up is down. Hot is cold. I'm outta here. I just finished the certificate of service and have to fricken blockprint five motions. Photocopy and then mail the shite out. Then I'll grab a few screenshots to spruce up a new DFQ2 post, tweet the fuck out of it, blah, blahg, Bertold Blechtschky.

[ Parent ]
Not Rauhauser, but allegedly one of his colleagues..... (5.00 / 1)
[ Parent ]
It's internet cointelpro dude (5.00 / 1)
I was right the whole fucking time.

[ Parent ]
You might like this, but maybe not. A comment to Crying wolfe. Hopefully, Vox would approve: (4.00 / 1)
Anonymouse
December 30, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Thanks, no problem at all on my end.

Maybe this is just a form of a hint that some things need to cool down a bit, regardless of who is right or wrong? Or right or left?

As a Bodhisattva, I should be offended at Mr. Rauhauser's false depiction of bodhisattvas. But I tell you that I was, but then after thinking about it and him, I am not. For we all suffer from false thinking in our own ways.

With all kindness and respect to you, I urge you to relent in your aggression against that man's soul, no matter how much you believe he has transgressed yours.



[ Parent ]
Sounds like you perhaps (0.00 / 0)
Here's the deal. Rauhauser is the kind of punk who ethically deserves to get beaten up in an old school fist fight- nothing illegal but he gets the message. You know what I'm saying. He's a douchebag whe has crossed lines of decency. Same with your girlfriend Rona Bryntart. (haha- there was an excellent use of the mispellicism schtick since the t and e buttons are close and whatnot.)

There's a very good reason why Rauhauser talks up weapons. He knows he's been a total asswipe and that at any point one of the crazies he has flushed out might come after him. Rauhauser is internet cointelpro. It's fricken obvious to me. Now, I agree he does deserve to be left alone at this point, but only because he has already been thoroughly exposed. How many times does a nail need to be hammered in? He deserves to be ignored. He needs to be sued in real life. He needs to be investigated. The internet equals bullshit, period.


[ Parent ]
Check out what Rona just tweeted (4.00 / 1)
This is part and parcel of how that disinfo fuck operates.
"Cybersmeared" @Prepostericity thinks 'Rona Bryntart' "ethically deserves to get beaten up in an old school fist fight" http://t.co/MhzS54gb

Anyone with reading comprehension skills can see that's not what I wrote above.

Here's the deal. Rauhauser is the kind of punk who ethically deserves to get beaten up in an old school fist fight- nothing illegal but he gets the message. You know what I'm saying. He's a douchebag who has crossed lines of decency. Same with your girlfriend Rona Bryntart.

How does his being "a douchebag who has crossed lines of decency" turn into he might be asking for someone to hit him in a bar fight or whatnot?

Ron is very tiresome and Lamo.


[ Parent ]
Definition of a troll (3.00 / 2)
Like your absurd Patterico gang pals, Dustin and Aaron Worthing, Socrates gets off on fake debates.

Perhaps you need to go back to school because you missed a class when you earned your MA, BA and LMFAO on how to write paragraphs, since that's what you implied.  If you think I'm only a douchebag - but not enough of one who deserves to get beaten up - then fix your crappy prose.

Your comment was also gaybaiting and extremely homophobic...

I'm not playing the troll game anymore, Soc.  Feel free to twist the rest of my tweets around, I just wanted to jump in to showcase the Trolling 101 move you made, even though I don't have to.

The whole thing with trolls is that everyone can see how they move the goalpost or cherrypick or change the subject, whatever it takes to "win" the argument.

Real people, when they debate, concede points, and apologize for losing their tempers.  Socrates is a super troll who still keeps ridiculously linking me to Neal Rauhauser and um the FBI.  And pretends I haven't spent published more articles exposing Markos and the Netroots regarding real shit instead of fantasy CIA weather modifying chemtrail psycho Socrates shit.

PS

In the future, don't mimic troll motions that haven't even been filed in a real case where your ass is on the line.  Insulting the last judge as "mystifying" and using sarcasm are for blogs and filings by trolls who pretend to be lawyers, not folks who are facing contempt charges.

Socrates, you might hate me because I think and know you're a troll, but I still don't want you to go to jail.  You seem to want to, though.  No one will care, unfortunately, since the gatekeepers in media and blogs are all ex-journolisters and/or tied to either side of the political blogosphere.


[ Parent ]
Hey Ron, welcome to the "Camp." (2.00 / 1)
Y'know, I was thinking the very same thing: Socrates needs his JD to complete a very distinguished academic career.

FWIW, Laura has an opening for lead blogger here, in case you are interested. Our recent top gun, Fairleft, the fire breathing fake leftist revolutionary, unfortunately can no longer blog from work. Apparently, his boss caught on (finally) after several years of his serial time wasting and blocked his internet access. Viva la revoluccion! That'll teach him to not chicken out and back down the next time somebody at his office suggests forming a union. So what if that other guy got fired for attempting to organise.

I know this place would be considered a bit of a come down for you, Mr. Brynaert, but it also has its pluses. Who knows, together with Socrates we might even manage to pull in a Neal Rauhuser sock, too.

I was once a prominent front pager on Daily Kos (OK, I was front paged once for a lame recap of the 2004 state election round-up) so I know how it feels to be relegated to arguing with loosers on the 5,345,289th ranked blog in the Whiteysphere.

But you can say wtf you want here at anytime to anybody about anything and you will be exalted for it.

By me anyway. I have to confess that I am an admirer of yours. Anyone who can piss off everybody on both sides of the weinergate divide is a man after my own heart.

Extremely well done, sir.


[ Parent ]
whelp (3.50 / 2)
Neal Rauhauser and/or Dustin and/or Ken Danieli aka KOAM aka Wittier aka Super Howard Stern Fan will probably join up as socks before the day is out.  I wouldn't recommend any of them as candidates for lead blogger.

I only had two accounts at Daily Kos. The second one got banned this summer with Stranded Wind after he threatened to sic 4chan trolls after me and I thought Empty Wheel was hacked (turns out she was evidently just fucking with my head since she's a Jason Leopold defender/protector).

This was what happened to the first one:

http://whyareweback.blogspot.c...

I was banned from Daily Kos sometime between November 10th and 11th, 2004. I alluded to the events that transpired in a prior post, and a few other bloggers blogged about it, but, until now, I haven't gone into details about what happened. Since Markos has a diary entitled "Bannings" on his blog, now's as good a time as any, to come cleaner.

When you get banned from Daily Kos it means that you can't post anymore diaries, you can't make any comments, and you can't rate other people's comments or recommend their diaries. Your prior comments and diaries don't disappear but they can't be rated anymore either. You also lose the power to edit or remove your words, if you so desire. You can still read the contents of the Website, of course (you're not redirected to somewhere like here), but, basically, you lose your "community" status. The worst thing is that you don't receive any word when you're banned. No e-mail, no message in your account. You just are. It's kind of like Kafka's The Trial, in a way.

Lately, I've been raging against some of the bigger blogs, mainly because they have done little for the largely-underground-driven campaign for election reform. Well, let me rephrase that. In my opinion, they have done a lot to hurt it, instead. But, I don't think it's fair of me to continue to take shots at Markos of Daily Kos without reprinting the what-I-assume-is-the-reason-I'm-banned diary.

So I will.

http://whyareweback.blogspot.c...


[ Parent ]
Ah, so you were banned during the earliest days if the Great Purge before the Great Sellout... (5.00 / 1)
I was shown the door in July of 2005.

I had some friends there in high places for awhile, like Armando and DemfromCt but alas, I couldn't keep seriously fixated enough on Democratic Party politicsto make it work long term.

I probably didn't help my cause by expressing a desire to fuck Howard Dean's wife while not at the same time evincing any interest at all in Dean as a candidate.

To be fair to me, however, I did also subsequently write about wanting to pound Laura Bush, too.

So, at least you can say that I'm a bipartisan MILF'er

[:o)


[ Parent ]
Lighten up, Francis (4.50 / 2)

Omg, you're the fucking troll, you douchebag lol! p:>

Don't get your panties in a bunch.

That wasn't my best post, numbnut. It was probably written in between writing up motions for a frivolous lawsuit in which you have supported the Speedway Bomber. You had some big post casting doubt on him actually being the one setting bombs which led to a man dying. You call me a supertroll, yet never uhm provide proof. You're unhinged, duuudde. You tweeted something today or yesterday that was total garbage. Or unfortunately for you, you're just not funny. I never suspected Team Breitbart is in cahoots with the FBI to modify weather. You are a fatfuckface!!!!

I have been the #1 trollbuster for the last few years of the milieu you have been part and parcel of. You're a nothing. You are soooo close to entering Neal Rauhauser status. You might not have been nearly as bad as him, but people can see what you are. You are the king of ad hominems, while I am at the top of the internet zeitgeist. Chump.

Of course when you make claims of being the leading trollbuster against Kos and Leopold and whatnot, you always provide links and your proof. NOT!!!!

Where's your proof that "Aaron Worthing" isn't a real attorney and didn't file that motion? If you're going by the case record website, things aren't added there right away. You dummy!

And I didn't mimic him, you fuckhead. I friggen gave him credit in between examples two and three in my first motion.

Seriously, stop being an asshole. Stop rewriting history. Why the fuck have you no comment on Kimberlin's perjury? Hmmm. Oh, and one more thing. You suck.


[ Parent ]
Lighten up, Socrates (5.00 / 1)
I'm like a strange cat running in the heat of the night
I've got a fire in my eyes, got a date with delight
Some kinda moaning in in the heart of the storm
I'm gonna love you so hard, you'll want your loving done
Lighten up baby, I'm in love with you
Lighten up baby, I'm in love with you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...


[ Parent ]
You are pretty good.... (5.00 / 1)
with the passive-aggressive schtick.

[ Parent ]
Just don't say I didn't warn you about joining Twitter... (0.00 / 0)
(:o)

[ Parent ]
Twitter.. (3.50 / 2)
I liked Twitter initially because - in a way - it reminded me of Iranian cinema.  Censors prevent them from showing much of anything but Abbas Kiarostami and the Makhmalbaf family make some of the best films period. The limit on Twitter's words is sort of a challenge...and the medium calls for an element of snark or sarcasm or irony...even more so than blogs.

But Twitter is more about cyber gang bullying these days.  And the reporters ignore tough questions or worse - give bullshit answers to them that just make you  madder - so it doesn't give you any better access to challenging bad stories.

When you're getting attacked by tons of people you never tweeted just because they're protecting their friends it can become harrowing.  And it makes you lose your temper.

Plus, Direct Messages can be hacked and manipulated with...and it's impossible to find old DM convos since only 100 are stored at a time, which is very dumb.

Twitter helps bad reporters and lazy online news sites.  Now all you gotta do is quote a tweet and not even try to email or call anyone.  Plus hacks like Jen Preston at the NY Times rely on Twitter measuring websites which are intrinsically untrustworthy since machines - and even humans - can't really measure irony or sarcasm (machines would read "i like nick cage because he chooses his scripts carefully" as a positive, for example).

Twitter sucks...unless Conan O'Brien follows you.


[ Parent ]
I hate short, pithy commentary as a rule. It seems like a recipe for communications disaster (4.00 / 1)
We do have several Iranian regime and media fans here but I'm not aware of their feelings about Iranian cinema.

I used to be a big cinema man back in the day but it seems like such a waste of precious blogging time now.

But, call me an old fuck, I am drawing the line at Twitter anf Facebook.


[ Parent ]
See, here is the thing though: (5.00 / 1)
I agree that in the old days fistfights were a rather manly, gallant way for dudes to settle their more unholy disagreements.

Today, however, what with the total lawyerisation of society, fistfights are definitely illegal, regardless if you even land a clean blow.

I mean, if the Police show they are almost going to insist on arresting one or other if not both. Somebody has to pay for interrupting their donut break.

This is even true for domestic disputes, although that's just what I have been told by others.

I wouldn't have first hand knowledge.

(;o)


[ Parent ]
Rona's all about Rona and misdirection (4.00 / 1)
He pops in here and immediately throws the thread off-topic. And to be honest, I do agree with you that off-topic can be good. But this dude is sooooo boring.

[ Parent ]
off topic but (4.67 / 3)
here's an interesting article about a paid troll:
http://exiledonline.com/failin...

The defectors have started an underground railroad to smuggle other rebels out of hostile territory

Mark Ames is a real journalist (0.00 / 0)

Exposed the Koch brothers back in early 2009 and then caught shit for it from paid hacks pretending to be journalists. Read his 'Koch Whores' ...

http://exiledonline.com/the-ko...

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
Veddy interesting, DP. HRW comments particularly eye-opening (5.00 / 1)
As it is clearly become a political football (depending on where the "game" is being played) between the opposing ideologues, as shown here through the rhetoric of the neocon Foust and the liberal Ames:

The Waffendwarf really has it in for the human rights "industry." A few years ago, when Human Rights Watch issued a 55-page report slamming Kazakhstan's human rights record, Foust was there to defend his beloved Kazakh dictator:

"I could seriously be off here, but am I alone in thinking Human Rights Watch is hyperventilating over this?"

This is the world through a corrupt flunk-out's eyes. And it fully informs his every word and every thought about Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, public-relations, and war-profiteering.

On December 15, a day before the massacre in Kazakhstan, Foust was busy belittling and demeaning a Human Rights Watch report on Uzbekistan. Rather than take seriously the human rights violations in the report, Foust slammed HRW's wanting PR department:

"The problem with the report is not the data is contains, but rather how HRW is framing it..."

And here is Pffugeecamp's (former) lead blogger Fairleft earlier insinuating that HRW is nothing more than another bought off neoliberal US institution, while quoting from a paleo-conservative blog in so doing:

http://www.pffugeecamp.com/sho...

Who is behind Human Rights Watch? (0.00 / 0)

Who is behind Human Rights Watch?
by Paul Treanor
Reposted September 7, 2001
The backgrounds of the Board members of Human Rights Watch (HRW), Europe-Central Asia section, with an indication of HRW funding sources. HRW is founded on the idea that the values of the United States are universal, and that the US must impose them on the rest of the world. As the largest human-rights lobby, it is partly responsible for the increasingly expansionist US foreign policy.

http://www.antiwar.com/rep/tre...

by: fairleft @ Tue Jun 01, 2010 at 22:35:58 PM EST

Here he goes again:

http://www.pffugeecamp.com/sho...

For "the real Human Rights Watch" file: (0.00 / 0)

Human Rights Watch really hearts NATO war crimes: look at this insane argument
AngryArab.net
March 27, 2011

"Human Rights Watch's London director Tom Porteus cautioned that even confirmed evidence of civilian deaths did not necessarily mean negligence or malice given the uncertainties of aerial bombardment.  "Just because you've got a civilian body killed in an airstrike, doesn't mean there's been a war crime or even a violation of international humanitarian law," he said. As for coalition officials, he said that they were "clearly bending over backward to say that they're bending over backward to avoid civilian casualties."  Would they say the same about Arab missiles against Israel?

http://angryarab.net/2011/03/2...

by: fairleft @ Tue Mar 29, 2011 at 07:08:37 AM EST

What this example illustrates is that among Fake Leftist ideologues it's not the "human rights tragedy" that matters at all, it's purely the politics behind the perpetrators of the "human rights tragedy" that matter.

Purest hypocrisy, IOW. "Having it both ways" depending on the situation.

And, of course, we see once again Fairleft expounding political views that echo eerily the same line of "thinking" and in sympathy with right wing shills like Foust, while claiming he is in fact in line with Ames (when his own political rhetoric as a "fake left shill" is not).

Is this what is known as "convolution," "disinformation," and "muddying the waters," or is Fairleft just another totally confused useful idiot of teh Fake Left?

RIOTOUS!!



[ Parent ]
Bad link in the above comment, corrected here: (0.00 / 0)
[ Parent ]
That's a mountain of an article to read (5.00 / 1)
There are not enough hours in the day. I looked at Dobie's link and was like, omg, what I'd do to have the energy to read that sucker.

Then I see something from donkeytale urinating on fairleft. Now that's what I'm talking about for entertainment.

Donkeytale is the only one on the net who has given me my due props. Here's the deal. It is most often impossible to know whether one is a paid fake or useful idiot. Yet sometimes we get lucky and someone makes a mistake. Say like Hal Turner.

But when that evolves into Hal Turner this, Hal Turner that, we end up missing the big picture. It was the fucking FBI and other spy factory assholes who hired dumbass chumps such as Hal Turner.

So here's an open letter to you fatfuckfaces in the spy factory. Get off your fucking asses and arrest Neal Rauhauser for cyber crimes. And you expect people to respect you and not think of you as fat fucking pigs?


[ Parent ]
OK, I am officially now getting to deeply involved in the Troll Wars TG work starts back tomorrow (5.00 / 1)
Someone named "Relic" at cryingwolfe asks:

What the hell is the obsession with Breitbart?

This in a thread that seeks questions for Ron Brynaert.

So I answered (comment in moderation), so maybe now I'm Brynaert, too?

Thats an easy one to answer, and it's already been answered here:

"These diaries are not meant to implicate Mssrs. Breitbart and Weiner in the evolving hijinks upon which I report, for I have no knowledge of either man's involvement. Rather, I mention both gentlemen here as totems, or ideological battle flags if you will, within the overarching context of the Troll Wars, whose raison d etre stems from escalating provocations of the recent past attributed to Breitbart and his associates, such as the YouTube trolling of Obama Administration official Shirley Sherrod and the hoaxing of ACORN, by Hannah Giles and James O'Keefe."

http://my.firedoglake.com/donk...

The Sherrod hoax, in particular, is indefensible, IMHO. The WH apologised to Sherrod. Even O'Reilly apologised. But what about the instigator?

"Fox News host Bill O'Reilly offered a rare mea culpa Wednesday, apologizing for airing a controversial tape of a speech given by a black U.S. Dept. of Agriculture official that was edited to make it appear she was racist.

Shirley Sherrod was forced to resign Monday after conservative activist Andrew Breitbart posted a video clip of Sherrod's speech at an NAACP dinner on his website BigGovernment.com in which she appeared to say that she had once discriminated against a white farmer. The edited clip did not include the portion of the speech in which Sherrod said the episode had taught her the importance of overcoming personal prejudices."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...



Rated holy for telling the simple truth (5.00 / 1)
I'm hash browning through me noggin' what my next diary will be on. How 'bout this? The simple truth?

Have you noticed that you're the only one giving me credit for this story?

People are kissing "Aaron Worthing's" ass. Sure, he did a good job. But what about my ass?

There was one other person who has supported me. That's Dustin, a Patterico blogger.

I'm done with Team Breitfart, all of them except Dustin if we bump into each other. I've been done for years with convoluted shites like Ronny Boy.

And it's funny strange of how out of all of that Nov. 14th hearing, only three examples have been provided to me. I've still weeks to go before being able to tell the full story. It's not like that baby hasn't been listened to by others. They know I kicked ass for two full hours.

The bottom line appears to be that folks on both sides are using me as an astroturf football. Team Breitfart gives me no credit for the scoop of the zeitgeist century. They want the credit. It's quite convenient for them that info transcending myself from 18 out of 21 deleted entries is still on the shelf collecting dust.

Team Breitfart and Team Numbnuts profit over their troll war. Deep down they need each other. Rona is trying to also benefit off of my being criminally harassed and is also quite possibly on the Team Numbnuts' payroll.

Team Breitfart has been using me. The other side has been criminally harassing me. And all this time law enforcement and the Maryland court has continued to shit the bed.

And that's the way it was, January 2nd, 2012. My name is Walter Socrakite. Now stay tuned for 60 Minutes after a word from your local affiliate.  


[ Parent ]
Y'know, I've really been on a roll lately. (5.00 / 1)
There is no telling where I would end up if I could do this fulltime. The problem is I can't get into it and stay focused unless there is really something going on that truly interests me.

Thats why 80% of Greenwald's schtick is nebulously dubious BS about nothing thats even real. There just isnt that much thats interesting in life to fill a blog 3-4 times a week, and do it that well.

OTOH, this is the story of a lifetime for you, no question. You are a legend, however, your need for props, while understandable, sort of gets in your own way a bit. Plus, I think you miss the respect sometimes from others that shines through unspoken. Or even when spoken, like with Brynaert here.

I was serious the other day about you going for your JD. That would be impressive and I think would provide you some tools, some discipline to round out your schtick and take it to the next level, IE professionally. If I had it to do all over again, I'd probably get one too. My mom always wanted me to go to law school or become a newscaster and I pointedly did neither because those were things that she wanted. What an idiot I am, eh? HAHA, dont answer, no need, I'm already so very ruefully aware of my own shortcomings. Its unavoidable as you age unless you are completely delusional and/or senile. [projection alert] The trick is being able to look back honestly and still live with yourself. Unless you haven't lived much at all, which I cannot claim. Maybe it would've been better to live piously after all.

[:o)

I see what you are saying about Brynaert, but its kinda the same as everyone else says about him, too, so I can't score you very highly for originality in that particular area of your schtick. It begins to sound like cybersmearing, whether it is or not. I look at him (as I do you and everybody) in the broadly fuller picture of the whiteysphere in general and this blog in particular and he's pretty much got it going on as far as I'm concerned, at least in relation to everybody else. As I say, I know you have history there, so I don't expect you to agree, plus I know that you are not, uhm, a forgive and forget guy by nature (I find that true of most NE'ers, btw) but y'know, I'm a fake monk from Whackadoodlefornia, so I am broadly accepting (ala Whitman and Henry Miller) and enjoy his schtick.

To be brutally honest, I even appreciate certain areas of Rauhauser's schtick, although he seems to be particularly problematic from a humanistic standpoint. Very intelligent with an unusually turbulent, active mind, however.

OK, now onto you....you might recall that I stated in one of my Troll War masterpieces that you remind me of Neal Cassady. I meant that highly complimentarily as Cassady is one of the biggest counter-cultural legends of the 50-60s era. However its also true that he was exploited by others, who grabbed as much fame and lots more fortune than he did, such as Tom Wolfe, Kesey and of course Kerouac, who would've been a complete nobody without Cassady. He even got his overrated narrative schtick straight from Cassady's letter-writing and speaking style. And then he dumped Cassady in his later life, which became increasingly bitter and probably guilt-laden by the way he gained success on Cassady's back. Both lived recklessly and died young and very troubled, although Cassady lived with much more grace and class than did Kerouac, who was essentially a drunken looser at the end of his life who never really did anything of note after On the Roadwhich was more a cultural phenomenon than literary success, in any event.

He wrote a bunch of mostly self-loathing drivel about dharma and wtf but his own karma was krap, obviously the way he ended up drunk and alone on his mother's sofa.

All that said, you obviously have the skills and education to do better for yourself than Neal Cassady or Kerouac did for thehmselves. Plus, you are still alive while they are dead.

[:o)

Lets face it, your genius, like Cassady's involves helping others raise their games. Worthing's legal response was masterful, lawyerly brilliance. Thats why it occurs to me that some legal training now would benefit you too, simply reading the way in which he connected all the dots, remained dispassionate even though the story was about him, too, the way his presentation stayed on theme and grew more powerful. You have to give him a lot of credit and any sour grapes won't become you, especially wrt his efforts. You need to find the high road as you have wrt Kimberlin himself. Worthing didn't exactly just leave you diving in the dumpster while he walked over your back on his way into the manor for the holiday feast of roast Speedway Bomber. He took you along with him and even tucked a napkin under your chin for you.

But I do feel for you, your having to play Cassady to his Kerouac.

Thats one of the reasons I have maintained a focus on you in  my own masterful recounting, in fact one of the reasons I have even bothered, and again you have inspired me too.

The average people aren't going to give you much if any respect based on your accomplishments, but those are the ones who have no self respect to begin with and haven't earned any from what I have seen them show on this blog, in any event. Remember, Dave went through the same crap. Just goes with the territory of being courageous and noted.

Average people can't handle success of any kind. Its much, much easier and comforting to remain a looser, gathering warmth at the center of the herd.

These are the very words I stated that Dave enjoyed and posted on his blog. You have truly attained dave-like status. And unlike dave, who unfortunately passed on so young, you still have an opportunity to accomplisg greater schtick before its all said and done....

[projection alert]



[ Parent ]
I have to say (5.00 / 1)
That's gotta be the nicest post anyone has ever written about me. Nothing comes close.

I do forgive Ron. I even apologise for calling him Rona. It was kinda a sarcastic poke to the ribs. I believe there was a gossip queen named Rona Barrett or something. Ron needs to chill out, especailly with twitter. He also needs to realise this internet is a deadend. He also needs to realise calling someone a supertroll when he is one is akin to throwing rocks out of a glass house. As for claiming I am homophobic, uhm, as a leftier than thou i can guarantee him I'm not. Ron is the supertroll, when you get right down to it, not me.

Going for a law degree sounds nice, but I think I am done with higher education. I am thinking of writing. I am thinking of being happy and living the good life, pious or whatnot.

That doesn't mean I'm a prude or gonna have my gonads redetached.

Oh man, I was just having some fun on this thread letting loose with fuckity frickety. Oh boy, that was fun saying FU to the FBI and spy factory fucks. They don't scare me. And if this is my useless form of activism, at least I tried.

Fuckin Ron calling me chemmie boy scared of black helicopters. He has no fucking clue. I was the king of chemmies, because I flushed all the kooky nonsense down the drain and looked at the issue academically. And you know what? There is a fricken weather mitigation program, nearly all of the synthetic clouds are not the result of commercial aircraft. Persistent contrails are not that likely, and they don't fricken do what many people have witnessed.

And Ron should know better. He's the one who was pimping that Michael Connell hoax. He's the one pimping that I am a supertroll. Fuck him. So big deal he writes one or two nice things about me once every holiday. He's a jealous dick who wishes he had come up with even 10% of what I did as an unpaid blogger. Or maybe he is a paid fake. We know those exist. Say like Neal Rauhauser, someone who should be sent to prison for years. As to perjury, give the other dude a suspended sentence, or let's find out if he lied about his parole no longer existing. If it does, then let's say he might be going up the river for a number of extra years.

That was big shit back in the day. That's the dude who claimed to have sold pot to Danny Boy Quayle.

Ron needs to get off his ass and investigate Kimberlin not me. Oh wait, perhaps Ron is not really a journalist or even a journalist wannabe but something quite different, something I was pinned on as being kooky for claiming it exists; The paid internet fake.

Thanks again, donkeytale. Very kind of you. Peace, bro.


[ Parent ]
blah blah just words for socrates to cherry pick (3.00 / 2)
"He's the one who was pimping that Michael Connell hoax."

That's a lie, Socrates...I told you that I pushed to have Larisa fired over that story...and I defended James Renner internally.  I thought that it was bullshit that she was smearing him on DU.

Anyone with a brain knows that Liberty Chick obviously used your work for the Kimberlin story, and you were ripped off.

Rauhauser did nothing to you, Socrates, you cry too much.  He dragged you into this story.

Calling me a woman isn't just gaybaiting it's sexist playground crap.  Breitbart thugs play that game, I don't.

Dude, I'm pretty proud of my journalism career. Perhaps you should examine it before pretending that your tin foil blogs put you in the same planet.

I spent nine months on this story...working with various journos until Brad Jacobsen knocked it out of the park...it's probably my proudest work: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/200...

You have also smeared me over my Jeff Gannon coverage, implying it was wackadoo stuff I reported, when my work on his plagiarism of the press was noted in a Congressional report. http://www.gao.gov/decisions/a...

I resisted posting on this blog, because you are a super troll, Soc.  You don't give.  You smear and lie to win debates.  When I'm wrong I admit it.  You keep pretending you've been cybersmeared...please...the question is whether you defied an injunction.  You're the only person on the internet that pretends you aren't a troll.


[ Parent ]
You've got nothing (0.00 / 0)
You pushed Larisa to be fired over the Michael Connell story? That's bullshit. You have no proof and are revising herstory.

Oh, so now you claim Liberty Chick ripped me off on a real story. But I thought I was a supertroll who only peddles in smears and tinfoil? I scooped the donation racket and connections and unfortunately for you, you've been working for that milieu.

Rauhauser did nothing to me? Fuck you!

Oh little Rona was called a woman. Oh you little baby. Why don't you explain to the world why you asked that pro-war parents of soldiers be given the biggest platform possible, you fake lefty?

You're proud of your journalism career. That's wicked awesome. No one cares. No one believes you came up with squat.

You claim I haven't been cybersmeared. That makes you look like the biggest paid fucking fake on the internet.

You're nothing but a useless, not even entertaining bitch. Go fuck off then. You're boring the audience. Dude, you are nothing but a straight out liar.


[ Parent ]
Wow (1.00 / 1)
I have tons of proof, dipshit.  Emails, IMs, etc. Heck, ask James Renner, since I sent an email to him, Larisa, Tim Russo, my boss and others saying they were all leaving offensive comments on blogs etc.

You are a supertroll...so? That doesn't mean you don't kick ass on finding some stuff and aren't always entertaining.  You repeat yourself too much, but I get a kick out of many of your comments.  Dig your taste in film.

I hate Daily Kos and the Netroots...and I completely agree with you that all this shit means nothing to the public...unfortunately though..it's the online assholes that got obama elected....and keep crappy dems in power....and attack good republicans just because they're on the other side.

Are you seriously going to keep harping on that one line to "prove" I'm not a liberal?

"I wish that other relatives of our troops pro or con against the war could be heard, as well, because they all deserve the biggest spotlight that there is."

Fuck you, asshole.  I stand behind that, 100 percent.  The relatives of soldiers fighting the wars deserve to be heard from!!!

Um, rauhauser did nothing to you, soc...give it a rest...he's menaced everyone else...and i'd like to do a lot worse to him than what you said he ethically deserved...and i've told him that at least 100 times.  He menaces me with crazy emails..everyone in Patterico/Breitbart gang can confirm that to you...when they're not lying about me being linked to them.

If you praise Dustin one more time...I'm out of here.  He's beyond supertroll.

"No one believes you came up with squat."

LOL that's absurd dude...i have emails from pulitzer prize winners....and ive been praised publicly on twitter by michael hastings and david corn and tons of others...heck i got praise emails from michelle malkin and judy plame....

Everyone is on fucking journolist or whateveritscallednow though....and i've attacked them all.

I hired a reporter to do white house briefings and we were the only ones to ask questions about the pentagon analysts program.  My work on the Downing Street Memo was cited in another congressional thingie.  I busted Ann Coulter for plagiarism twice and it was in AP and Newsweek.  

Heck, i've been linked at Breitbart: http://biggovernment.com/drieh...


[ Parent ]
YAWN!!!!! (0.00 / 0)
And Brad Friedman writes for The Guardian. That's the ticket.

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Questions for Ron (0.00 / 0)
Where did you get the info I emailed motions addressed to the Speedway Bomber? I guess you are unaware that thingie has nothing to do with this new Kimberlin inspired junk. That phase of hoax drama ended up in a family court. A clerk told me it wasn't a criminal thingie. Fuckers like you have a lot of nerve making it seem I have committed crimes. Where the fatfuckface in that so-called injunction does it say I can't blog on this case or that I musn't disparage an ambulance chaser who got in over his head? You obviously aren't trying to get the real story. If so you'd have ordered court audio for yourself. You wouldn't be so one-sided attacking me and downplaying the shit I've been put through. Fuck you Ron!

I somehow recall you wrote something about Aaron Worthing's motion being fake. Then how come have I have just received a 200 or something page file of it from the law firm which helped him prepare it pro bono?

I've got other questions, but now I am thinking, who cares what you think?


[ Parent ]
Let's talk injunction then, troll (0.00 / 0)
It was only a few sentences. It basically said don't defame Kimberlin. Uhm, that's like saying the sky is blue. It's against the law for anyone to defame.

Maybe you have an opinion on Kimberlin committing perjury on November 14th? No, I didn't think so. Basically you are useless.


[ Parent ]
dude (2.50 / 2)
You trolls are all insane.

I'm not gonna comment on an allegedly cherrypicked partial transcript that is completely irr fucking relevant.  Kimberlin wasn't on trial, you were, Soc.

You can't prove anything he said was a lie from what I can see anyway. Didn't you just blog the other day that there could be some truth to the double secret probation (which um does sound ridiculous to me but stranger things have happened...but y'all are ignoring the many weird things which i'm not gonna reiterate since IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU BROKE THE INJUNCTION....and dude seriously what you said about the judge online is pretty indefensible)?

I think you broke the injunction by reposting the blog post about one of his donors, like I told donk at FDL.  Everything else is arguable...but that isn't and you know what you are doing.

Sending motions in this case to the "Speedway Bomber" is vile.  It makes you a non-internet troll.  His neighbors and his mailman can read that.  It was a horrible thing to do and if you deserve to go to jail for anything it should be that.

Only an insane troll non-lawyer like Aaron Worthing would suggest a new judge taking over for a judge that had to recuse himself because you called him fatfuckface could come up with some ridiculous scenario where Brett should have to prove what a troll who lost a case is calling a lie.

The media reporting someone is a suspect does not make them a suspect, super troll. Why is a liberal like you defending a biased hack like joe gerlarden, anyway?

And um for strike three...the actual violation had to do with BK forgetting to mention something on a loan application...so it might have been semantics on that.

So are you done, troll?

The issue is what you wrote after not what Brett said during...and if you get a transcript or audio tape of the entire November 14 thing I'll gladly give you credit if you Perry Mason'd anyone.

But, dude, you're running with wackadoo Breitbart crazies and fake lawyers who call Obama socialist.


[ Parent ]
"running with wackadoo Breitbart crazies and fake lawyers who call Obama socialist" (1.00 / 1)

Donk, Soc & The Running Mates

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

[ Parent ]
happy new year to fact-free fairleft and her running mates (4.50 / 2)
Dumb and Dumber

[ Parent ]
Why is Frau Laura von Goebbelschtein linking to a noomie website? (4.50 / 2)
Wait, my bad. It's Moon of Alabama. I forgot to put on my reading glasses. Hahaha. And one can't even click on it. We should start a pool for when the wanker and Failreft decide to pull the plug on this Pffugeeshitcamp. It's obvious we are the only thing making it tick. Noomie and Dobie are fun stuff. Noom with his rants against Iran. Dobie with her minimalist schtick. Vox however seems to have taken Amish flught. Byron seems to have said fuck this shit. Dudes like Gzodik, I see hip pop up once in a while in the ratings. I like him, but it's tough to converse through ratings alone.  

[ Parent ]
sure right (5.00 / 2)
cuz all eye've done is rant against Iran!

"noom sure iz fun." "he's pffunny!" "pffoony in fact!"

face it, noom iz goddamn hilarious!

who helped put peeder's jernt on the map?!? noom! with his masterful creation of the pinches! peeder's jernt hit record readership when the pinches came into being. The mystery I unleashed, "Who is pinche _ loafano?" had the entire lefty blogging world enthralled, fasscinated and agog! That was the king shit!

noom fooled them all! the cool kids, the rebels, the malcontents, the anti-socials, the pretenders, the wannabes, the aholes, the smartests and the artists - they all ate barrelfuls, no truckfuls of my dust!

Of curse, eye've had all kinds of supreme, sublime, one of a kind blogging exploits on many different blogs, under many different guises - blogs ranging from FSZ to MLW to writing in the bore, even docudharma which has the legendary appearance of the great and immortal gertrudefitzgeraldvonstranderstrom in it's historiography! and much much much more!

eye had a stupendous, crushing and total meta triumph over the current blog overseer when eye busted "LJ the fake NA" deleting a comment! Any claims to blogging purity she might fancy for herself are now forever gone! Her name is forever vitiated and gangrened in the annals of blogdumb!

And of curse, many noom undertakings still remain unknown, r yet to b revealed! The well runs mindbendingly, phantasmagorically delectibly deliciously deep!

"noom sure iz pffunny"

sure right

qaw qaw qaw

+)


[ Parent ]
Noom is greatness (3.00 / 1)
Don't be a stranger. Take care, your bro shadowthief socrates

[ Parent ]
Yup I am on Team Breitbart (0.00 / 0)
I was busted. I am a right wing operative. That's the stuff. Loser.

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Hey DumDum (0.00 / 0)
Cherrypicked?

How much do you make as a paid fake?

And with your anger schtick, you must be getting some on the side from the FBI or someother branch of spy factory fuck.

This fucker Brynaert does what Rauhauser does and sends unsolicited emails. I've made a few like that, but always on the level, and never to cyberstalk anyone like those asshats do.

This cunt expects people to care about his "blogging" career and chase down his links. This douche is reading every word I post and tweeting about it every chance he gets. He is unhinged and delusional. It's an act. I'm not gonna do other people's homework.

Haha, fake journalist Ron Brynaert talks up that the double secret exoneration has a hint of plausibility. This guy is a waste of time. He blogs as if he is working out of a psychological operations manual. People know about Rauhauser, and how he got busted doing the same thing. Brynaert is a concern troll. You can tell Brynaert is part of all that by what he posts.

He's an idiot. He doesn't admit he is wrong. He doesn't admit to anything. He makes no concessions. He is incapable of dialogue with anyone but high powered trolls. Brynaert doesn't have one regular person he gets along with.

And it was a riot to see him claim Jen Preston of the NYT stole his research. Brynaert is the proverbial he who smelt it delt it asswipe.

I guess the big difference with Ron and Neal is that Ron is a bit less sadistic.

I didn't even know Ron was gay. Sorry Ron. I'm not homophobic. I also don't cut someone slack for being an asswipe because they are gay. A lot of them are at DKos like Muchael Bouldin and Rauhauser is too. I guess bad people come from all people and groups.

The media reporting someone is a suspect does not make them a suspect, super troll. Why is a liberal like you defending a biased hack like joe gerlarden, anyway?

My advice is for you to get off the net, Ron. Or post more with other usernames. No one is buying your journalist act. Trolls like you have a shelf life. As Neal has gone, so have you. It's over, dude. You're toast for credibility.

And unfortunately for you, you can't write prose or anything entertaining. But I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's not like you'll ever admit you are a paid fat fuck. It's obvious to anyone with any experience with the net. It's obvious with your few posts on this thread.

What's this about Brett and a loan application? You're saying that's what got him thrown back in the clink? How come you write so much garbage without proof? Who the duck do you think you're fooling, Mr. internet paid fake?



[ Parent ]
oops (0.00 / 0)
I should have deleted Ron's "The media reporting someone is a suspect does not make them a suspect, super troll. Why is a liberal like you defending a biased hack like joe gerlarden, anyway?"

[ Parent ]
Haha (0.00 / 0)
It's cause I have to copy and paste in paragraphs. Lord David Byron is my witness.

[ Parent ]
Yes, I'm talking to myself (0.00 / 0)
It's more interesting than talking with Ron. Also, with a bit of effort, this sucker could reach 100 posts and become a true classic.

[ Parent ]
my favorite wackadoo (1.00 / 1)
not that there's anything wrong with it, i'm not gay or in the FBI, Soc

and i don't know how to make it rain or snow or put chemtrails in your coffee


[ Parent ]
Motion delivered by classy Washington DC firm shows Brynaert knee-deep in wackadoody (0.00 / 0)
I'm looking at a 200+ or whatever motion, and Ron Brynaert reeks of complicity with the hoaxsters. That's why he's bailing out of Pffugeestan. He has been exposed once and for all as a fake feigning mental illness. He's like a front line protecting fake lefties. He evokes authority he doesn't have. He stacks the cards. He ignores the tough questions. He runs interference. He smears. He lies. His main role is to raise the noise to signal ratio. He's basically not a very nice person. The money must be good.

[ Parent ]
Harmon, Curran, Spielberg, & Eisenberg LLP (5.00 / 1)
Is a progressive law firm that's stepped up to assist in the response to this most non-progressive attempted intrusion on individual free speech rights by so-called progressive Brett Kimberlin against conservative Worthing in the midst of this ideological troll war, in which Kimberlin has also sought to shut down our free speech here at Pffugeecamp by complaining to Soapblox about Socrates' comments.

Of course, a dimwit like Fairleft can only see this as an opportunity to smear you and me without any evidence or knowledge as "running mates" of Andrew Breitbart. In fact, as I've already pointed out by a link in this very thread which dim Fairleft ignored, far from "running with" the conservatives involved in the troll wars I posted a comment highly critical of Breitbart on one of their blogs. Reft's false cut n pasting paraphrase of Brynaert's comment to smear me as a "running mate" when Brynaert did not do so is exactly the same dishonest editing technique used by Breitbart and O'keefe in their YouTube slimings of Sherrod and ACORN.

Meanwhile, here I posted a comment containing evidence of Fairleft smearing Human Rights Watch in exactly the same manner as right wing shill named Jonathan Foust, simply because HRW, like the pro bono attorneys standing up for Worthing are concerned about moral principles and human rights as opposed to being amoral ideological hacks, like Fairleft, Kimberlin and Team Breitbart.

This dishonesty is why I term Fairleft a "fascist." He consistently employs the worst tactics of the rightwing.


[ Parent ]
The good guys are finally winning (5.00 / 1)
Donkeytale, we and a few others are the only ones who truly understand the internet. We are not God's gift to political blogging. We're simply regular guys with a bit of fire inside telling right and left political astroturfers, that no one is buying their schticks anymore.

If main stream media had only gotten off of its ass, this case could have been completed long ago.

Then there are fake internet jounalists such as Brad Friedman of Bradblog who have the nerve to quip,"It's not about right and left, it's about right and wrong."

That's called concern trolling 101 and kaching.

I will say this. Aaron Worthing is the true hero of this story after of course myself and Al Franken. That motion is stacked. People are only seeing the extensive cover letter thingie. And God bless that law firm.

Basically, the Maryland Mickey Mouse Circuit Court is now forced to look at some evidence pertaining to the troll wars. I established on November 14th that Brett Kimberlin had squat for proof I had committed any crimes or torts against him, and that he is a perjurer to this day.

Brynaert is not much different than Rauhauser. Both of them are running scared looking for Mommy's skirt to hide behind.

Where is Brynaert's fair and balanced? Is he so shaken up as a self-proclaimed leftier than thou that destroying Andrew Breitbart is all that matters? Or is that only what he wants us to believe? Donkeytale, here's a reality check. You need to wake up and realise you or I or anyone else always runs the risk of becoming the next failreft, unless we stay true to our mission statement from Project Vigilance Against Numbnuts.

Basically you messed up kissing Brynaert's ass. To top it off, he's not even gay. So there you have it. Just saying. That's the stuff.

Nonetheless and furthermore jurisprudence and whatnot, I believe we should put that to the side. There's big shit arriving in the immediate future. This story is coming to a climax. as in, "Ooooooh! la la." Oh, there will be tons more to fill people in on later.

Let me say this to you, donkeytale. You were very astute to be the first to realise this has become the #1 story for the right, left, and in between of internet zeitgeist and schadenfraude von something or other. The only difference between this schtick and others is it's not being shown on regularly listed cable stations like the Leopoldian Karl Rove Indictment hoax or Andy Stephenson-Jeff Well's Jeff Gannon pedophilia mind control schtick were.

As God is everywhere, in theory, so is this story as being at the top of the zeitgeist. And that was your scoop!

I see Breitbart and Kimberlin as an analogy or whatnot. On standardised tests such as GREs, there are those questions with answers such as Al from Happy Days is to I'll be over at seven for some Encore Lasagna is to the most interesting man in the world is to stay thirsty, my friends.

In this case, Kimberlin and Brad Friedman are to Team Breitbart, as the Soviet Union and the US were so-called military adversaries such as Sparta versus Greece or wtf. Look at the theme of The Iliad. Both sides fed off one another. There was no way to simply pick a side to root for. It was what it was. It's like Repukelikans versus Demotards. In short, when we make an ass out of u and me with bogus starting points, we all end up with egg on our kissers.  

This story, while technically including notions of right versus left, somehow transcends any ability to pick a side. We must promote truth no matter what it is, even if on the surface that may appear to attack individual world views and value systems.

Eventually everything comes out in the wash. Much of it already has. The most recent shite to emerge has been a connection to spy factories working the net in relation to Wikileaks, Manning, Assange, Lamo, Rauhauser and Chet Uber.

I truly believe the only things missing from this fucker are the conclusion and epilogue, say picture an episode of Streets of San Francisco, a Quinn Martin production. We are approaching Act 4.5 of an episode titled, The Troll Wars.

Okie dokie. Here is something I wrote to a friend. I will not disclose his or her name and make a few edits for clarifying purposes.

I received the full 200 or so page motion from the law firm of Harmon, Curran, Spielberg, & Eisenberg LLP. I now truly understand what Aaron, Popehat, and that law firm have done on my behalf.

I do believe Kimberlin is in some serious trouble. I do believe since he is trying to turn this into a criminal case, the court is now forced to look at hard evidence.

I think I did a very good job with my motions and sincerely believe they have a decent to very good chance of succeeding. I will call both the law firm and the court later this week to see what's up. A grave injustice has been conducted on myself.

Brynaert showed up at pffugee camp and then ran away like a baby after merely being asked a few tough questions. Yes, Rauhauser is now white-washing as much as he can. As has one of his buddies named Chet Uber. They appear to have been involved in some sort of Homeland Security, FBI, or other form of spy factory endeavour called Project Vigilant.  

I've been through too much to not try following this through. I have broken no laws. I exposed a donation scheme centered around hoaxes and astroturfing. When harassed, I replied, "So sue me." Unfortunately, I was. However, the light is now shining through from the end of the tunnel, and the bad guys are losing.



[ Parent ]
Well, I think I am God's gift to political blogging, in fact, not to mention blogfiction and blog irony, among many other skillsets/ (5.00 / 1)
And you will have to show where I focked up wrt Brynaert. I have no idea what you mean. Focked up what? Because he came here and you immediately became as hysterical as a two bit MSOC wannabe on her monthly?

Dude, I'm not getting caught up in the polarisation is all you are really saying. It has nothing to do with my focking up. There is political polarisation on the internet and there is this social metafictive polarisation, too. Same illness, different symptomology. I'm reporting a story that in my gut I know that you are the hero and therefore there is no need for you to constantly spin it ad nauseum.

I mean, look at that Crying wolfe dude. Wow. Get a life, Mr. Stack. Jeesh. Or at least a therapist to help you make some sense of your torment. Meta OCD.

And yes, Worthing's part in this is epic and he couldn't have attained it without you. What I already said. Repeatedly. Its aiming higher by the Killer grateness.

Jerry Lee got nuthin on you. Nuthin, I tells ya.

You just personalise everything too much. You are also God's gift to juniour high school melodrama, except you aren't a teeny bopper anymore. I can't blame you really in this instance becuase you have been attacked and attacked stupidly in a self-defeating manner by your attacker(s).

But you really don't have to drag yourself through the meta mud endlessly to make the same point over and over. Others, ahem, are making it better for you on your behalf and that is good, but its also a bit sad, in a way. You are losing the nobility of your own story in the process.

For to benefit from it personally and professionally you will need to step back and take in a very wide contextual panorama and stop looking at it as if you are pure driven snow while the others are pure shit.

Newsflash from a Fake Monk: both ideas are false.

Unfortunately, I have seen you start to loose your enlightened state here recently and it saddens me. I have to admit. Dude, relax.

Those kinds of white hat/black hat books won't sell. Tooo simplistic. Not even in movies, nowadays. Detached irony is called for after a certain point in the process.

As I said, you have done great, very great, you are greatness. BRYNAERT EVEN ADMITTED IT SEVERAL TIMES. Stop and read.

You will continue attain greatness as long as you maintain the high ground.

I dont mean to preach, but enough is enough. Back away from your laptop now and take a cold shower.

[:o)

Check out military history. He who holds the high ground wins every battle.

That goes for the Troll Wars, too.


[ Parent ]
Donkeysattva (5.00 / 1)
I too was saddened by my recent fall from graceland.

I have sinned.

I couldn't agree with you more about goatsred. He needs to chill out. Though he has the same excuse I do. He and I have taken the worst of the cybersmearing beatings and been put through the heavy duty supertroll smear cycle.

I am guilty of not abiding more to previous statements, such as let the reader decide, it all comes out in the wash, it's just another manic Monday, and I'm gonna try to be more journalistic.

It's nice to see Dusty Baker has signed on to be a Pffugeenista. Perhaps he can fill the right leaning void Ender and maybe some other dude used to fill for Peeder's Political Flesh Feast.

I'll jump over to that other thread and rate both of your posts holy fives.


[ Parent ]
his name was Neo Kong and there was also a donkeykong (5.00 / 1)
If I recall, altho I believe DK was probably a noom sock, altho I appreciated the tribute. Hell, I even recc'd donkeytail's dog ficking chicks diary, and I half expected to be indicted over it. Luckily, I work clean so nobody pointed any fingers at me.

Is ender a righty? Someone has to help me out there, I find Ender OK maybe slightly moderate but Neo Kong was pure Red State but he had an exclnt sense of humour. Plus, Peeder was pretty much a conservative anyway, so PFF had a bi-partisan tilt.

(Oxymoron alert)


[ Parent ]
Dustin seems to be more Enderish than NeoKongite (0.00 / 0)
Though I admit to not having followed much Patterico other than for when Kimberlin or related schticks were covered. I did see that Dustin has been heavily involved with Worthing's Everybody Draw Mohammed website. Noomie would probably love those guys for that alone. .... We're almost up to 100 posts.  Yay! I think one of mine has the Pffugee record, not sure with well over 300 posts. That was the one where MattyJack and friends impersonated being anonymous or something Charlie Channish.

[ Parent ]
I have no idea what anyone is talking about right here (5.00 / 2)
the GOP primary has taken me a bit to the dark side lately though, as far as being a judgmental politico goes.

Not a fun time to be a righty, in my opinion.  Or a lefty.


[ Parent ]
Not much goes on here (4.00 / 3)
There's a long backwash of a backstory. This is basically the last bastion for the anti-DKos exodus. Maryscott O'Connor of MyLeftWing coulda should been the destination. However, she ended up ceding her place to those with Stalinistic tendencies concerning moderation.

This dude Peeder set up the Political Flesh Feast. He designed the software for DKos' "community moderation," but when he realised how that was working (KosKoppers running amok), and with Maryscott O'Connor not being up to the task, he started PFF.

That ;asted one year. Then came the epic battle between Dave Weintraub (DFQ) and KosKopper dictator MajorFlaw. The Free Speech Zone was meant to take over for PFF, but that too shit the bed in outrageou epic fail manner.

This palce was started because myself and DavidByron were banhammered by Jack's Smirking Revenge aka MattyJack. Noom and Donkeytale like to moan about themselves being the main reason for the Free Speech Zone going against the Peeder mandate, but their 15 minutes of historic troll fame had already passed. [just kidding dudes!]

Long story short, this place has turned into the same kind of slanted nonsense as FSZ. Laura does get credit for keeping the minimal rules in place and not deleting too much lol. But she and notorious numbnut blogger fairleft turned this into an anti-Jooooo blog.She doesn't play fair with frontpaging. Peeder was the only one who got the job done for facilitating a free speech blog.

I wasn't around back then. I came after the party had ended. I was more into following Democratic Underground and was actually blogging with prolific hoax peddler Brad Friedman.

There are a few cool people who post here, but they aren't around too often or take a very minimalist approach.

Basically there are two things going on here right now. Fairleft writes something stupid, it gets promoted by Laura Von Johnschtickler. Donkeytale then bats it down with one hand tied behind his back.

Then there is the ongoing blog styled Martin and Lewis schtick starring myself and donkeytale, yet to this day we don't know who is who.

We agree with you the blogosphere is a complete mess, whether it's from the right or left.

That should get you up to to date.


[ Parent ]
From the start laura's rule was no meta gets front-paged (3.00 / 2)

She's been consistent on that.

Socrates' history is also wrong in that usual socrates is center of universe way, cuz it was the banning of 'tale and byron that got this place started. Socrates' paranoid rantings just not worthy.

And he forgot to tell you that he, noom and 'tale are the only ones who write anti-Jewish shit, example above.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
Why are you lying, Fakeleft? (5.00 / 1)
It's a known fact this forum was created because MattyJack banned me, LordByron, and Eric S. for no good reason. You're pitiful.

[ Parent ]
I apologize, you were mixed up in all that too, I think. (4.50 / 2)

Not sure, but I think this place started because of Lord Byron's banning, and possibly Noom's, and I think the banning of you and 'tale came a couple weeks later. Or maybe you, tale, byron and maybe others were all mixed up together in the banhammering that started pffugee. Anyway, the old freespeechzone, before freespeechzone.us, is gone from the nets, so hard or impossible to access the actual real-time story. Mine and a couple others' reasons, probly laura's too, for leaving freespeechzone were in print then.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep

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Yes, the reasons for Pffugee weren't exactly as either of you put it, as I recall. Soc is more strictly correct but Reft is generally true as well. (5.00 / 1)
Iwould say understandably poor memory of convoluted events rather than lies. Soc likes to say I lied about being banned at DKOS in 2004 when it was a simple brainfart mistake that I made ONCE. Cometman also jumped all over that particular mini-socratisation. Strange bedfellows, indeed.

First, there were the Thanksgiving bannings of noom, Eric and me, when Jack claimed we were all Shadowthief socks, who had supposedly threatened his life.

This event kicked off much Meta discussion, some of which pertained to starting a new blog. 4kdtongue was a major participant in the heated discussions from pro-troll standpoint. Sabrina, Susan Something, Devore, et al left at this point, mainly out of their own embarrasment after they had piled on the so-called stalking bannees when it became clear that Jack was simply pranking, which in turn made their shrill polarity look foolish.

Far as I know, Sabrina and Something have never returned to the toobs and I think Devore works at a Deli by the beach somewhere.

Next up was the Dave outing MajorFlaw kerfluffle, where the FSZ koskops cometman and Darryl pushed for Dave's banning because they had already foolishly and naively given their personal info away to KosKops before they realised Daily Kos wasn't the nirvana of the fake left that it appeared to them to be as newbies.

In fact, Jack did ban dave and reinstated him a few times. Fierce dave defenders included me, kraant, vox and 4kd. Finally, I believe dave requested that he not be reinstated and left voluntarily, disgusted by the weak sistering of fools such as cometman and Daryl.

After dave passed, literally, the weak sisters kept up their bleating after Byron, primarily, and Socrates. I had long since been reinstated, along with noom (random guy) and Eric, and as I had artfullyt managed to be both intelligent, illuminating and humourous (elegant troll) I was included in the "whackjob" contingent but the only ones being ushed hard for banning were Byron and Socrates, prim3ily by cometman and daryl (diogenes dalee) with the most aggressive, nazi-like putsch coming from the always delightful and mild mannered Melvin.

I believe it was at this point, late winter early spring 2009 that Otvos and 4kd launched a pedantic (and hilarious) series of discussions trying to convince each other to start their own freespeech blog. These discussions ere joined by Rusty Pipes who may also have talked about forming a new blog and surely some others.

There were also a slew of noobs like Lauren S, hidden comment, greenwood, deedogg and some others who came along to defend the Byron/Soc "whackjob" putsch.

Finally, Laura in true lauraesque fashion, with support from doberman pinche, decided Otvis (especially) and 4kd were full of hot air, so she up and started Pffugee.

But I was not banned at that point, I had left voluntarily when Soc and Lord were banned, altho I may have allowed the impression that I was banned. That was spring when Soc and I held our epic dialogue, hijacking the zombie threads of the late dfq's blog.

I didn't come over to pffugee right way, mainly as dramatic sschtick, but of course here we all are (still) and I must say I have no real complaints, altho I do like to complain anyway, again as dramatic schtick.

Some of the preceding may not be 100 pct accurate/complete, but in my failing memory, pretty close.


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Fakeleft is doing a pure projection alert (0.00 / 0)
I've been hearing that one since late 2006, that I tend to egotistically catapult myself into the center of a milieu zeitgeist. Back then was when I first realised how easy it is to pull a coup d'etat on any milieu.

This is Jealousy 101. I have two Master's degrees, one of which is in Social Theory. I shouldn't be treated like shit simply for undergoing legitimate leftier than thou academic training  and thus having such groovy research/writing skills on my resume. It's not my fault Laura and Fairleft got their degrees from Michael Rivero's What Really Happened University.

In this specific story concerning Kimberlin and Friedman, I am clearly smack dab in the middle as both victim and hero [/kissing my own hand while making love to the mirror].

Fairleft is always popping his head into our entertaining and informative threads. He has become so embarrassed by his piss-poor blogging performance, out has come, "ohhh no, I won't be blogging too much now, except for when I have spare time to get to my internet cafe schtick."

Fakey is one of the people who jumped all over Francis Holland. Couple that with things he's written here, and he is clearly into white power. It's the same with Laura. They are confusing being reactionaries with pure leftier than thouism. They are the prime type of fish right woos left marketers have reeled in. They are way in over their heads. They lack formal education. They read but from bad sources. They are very dogmatic. This is all well-known by both us and lurkers.

Donkeytale, what you wrote is very accurate. I'll add a bit of my own oral history. You had a glitch or something and thought you had been banned. Yes, you and Noomie had been banned in the First Troll Wars or wtf episode at the Free Speech Zone.

The second putschskie or something was I think April or March 2009, not sure. Remembering dates is not my finest trait. Myself and Byron were the ones primarily being pushed out. Byron was prolific, and he was an easy scapegoat due to his anti-vagina schtick. As to myself, yeah, we were having those epic back and forths at Dave's blog. We were getting to the root of Jack's Smirking Revenge and all his cronies being pieces of shits who had thrown Dave under the bus. It was almost as if MattyJack had met with KosKoppers and made a deal with them. There was some evidence leaning that way. So Dave of course had told them fuck you yet in a much more graceful manner. You did come out of that looking good. That's when the regular guy schtick emerged. Now there's a schtick that's had some great staying power.

Although MattyJack evenetually white-washed FSZ, we know what happened. There's even still some evidence here and there laying about. The Thunderdome thread imbroglio was probably the last straw for the anti-free speech free speechers. That thing was saved from google cache.

MattyJack was basically a piece of shit. He had at least two pranks going on simultaneously. I think three in the time leading up to Putshkie #2. One was that I was some form of right wing operative. He basically stole my internet fake schtick while applying such a negative smear on meself. That was similar to the type of schtuff internet predator Neal Rauhauser does. There was the MattyJack takeover prank, which was incredibly stupid. That was some very lame attempt at saying, "It was just a joke, guys. This is free speech." That preceded the fact that it had not been a prank after all, as myself and DavidByron were locked out for good and for no good reason.

There was a third hoax going on at the time, but I don't remember it too well, or it's tough to put into words. Oh wait, it was posted also at Kriatowski or whoever's website. Ugh, it's definitely tough to recall stuff off hand.

In short, FSZ is now defunct, deleted, and here myself and Donkeytale currently reign on top of the internet zeitgeist. This has been a victory for every person who's ever been on the psotove historic troll side of the soapblox milieu (Daily Kos, My Left Wing, et al). Fairleft is simply bitter because for all his blogging efforts, he has turned out to be nothing but a little worm.

At the end of my stay at FSZ I was getting trolled on by so many people including the ones you mention. And it turns out I was correct. I have been vindicated.

Brad Friedman is not going to get away with his bullshit. At some point EVERYONE on the internet will know that Brad Friedman of Bradblog has been peddling crazy hoaxes and then asking for donations.

The Kimberlin and Rauhauser nails are no longer sticking out. So the next question for newbies and fence-sitters should be, "What is behind that curtain?"  


[ Parent ]
This story is Meta but its more than Meta. (5.00 / 1)
By virtue of Kimberlin's stupid lawsuit IRL, by virtue of the connection to Team Breitbart Vs. Team Velvet Revolution, and by virtue of all the sturm and drung that has kicked up across vast stretches of the whiteysphere over this important free speech related misuse and abuse of the courts, especially as a result of the epic Worthing filing (by a progressive law firm no less) this story is hugely newsworthy.

Congratulations, Socrates. You are indeed a category buster, of nothing less than historical whiteyspherical proportions.

The fact that Laura and Fairleft are unable to honestly comprehend the significance, even after the Speedway Bomber attempted to suppress Pffugeecamp itself (which she of course tries to downplay and pin blame on me) is udderly, drearily predictably doltish and cowardly.

Meanwhile a comment faking as a diary, with all the importance and intellectual value of a QVC shopping network advertisement lies across the front page like some mongrel's carcass littering the highway. Everybody who drives by (except the dead dog's owner, LJ) averts their eyes ignores the ignominy and moves on down the highway to a worthier destination.  


[ Parent ]
That was an utterly holy post (0.00 / 0)
Not only was it profound, but it had me literally laughing out loud in the second half.

Thanks, donkeytale. Sometimes I am in awe of how big this story is, and how I am involved in the eye of the storm.

It's been very predictable how LJ and FL have responded yet still somehow disappointing.

For Christ's sake or get out of town, how can they miss its significance or for how it provides this worthless blog an opportunity to finally have some relevance?

On a related note, I received a follow-up letter from that classy law firm confirming the lawyer lady who helped Worthing is certified to practise law in Maryland.

Methinks Brett Kimberlin could be in some serious trouble. And you're correct about that court. This is their chance to rectify a wrong committed by the rookie former ambulance chasing Judge Jordan. If Speedy is taking advice from internet predator Neal Rauhauser, he might want to stop.

And here's something I pondered while taking a nice walk. I'm not sure wtf he's talking about with the super double secret exoneration. But with the parole schtick, maybe he is taking a basic truth and twisting it a bit. He has been on federal parole. That thingie has since been abolished or something.

I truly don't know wtf he was thinking when he perjured himself. I do believe he is having some serious regrets now that real lawyers have entered the scene for the defense. The motion filed by Aaron and the Lady lawyer clearly shows that I have been getting my butt cybersmeared and provides the court with some much needed backstory.

And I truly believe my motions were excellent too. So Kimberlin might have truly fucked up by not letting this go with the hollow win provided by bad umpiring. No way should he have won court costs. I can deal with inflation bumping up the symbolic buck to a c-note.

But no way should Jordan have given him court costs too. And doesn't Jordan look like the ultimate idiot with his let's move onto something else schtick, after Kimberlin had provided him with such utter bullshit. And there was much more garbage than that Kimberlin provided. In my humble opinion, Judge Jordan was incompetent.


[ Parent ]
Holland was another bannee I defended loudly (0.00 / 0)

Some of his writing was crap and paranoid but some was great. Anyway, his banning at random sites was protested loudly by me whenever I saw it. I remember doing so at Myleftwing, but am too lazy to go over and look at the diary logs.

Please process and separate the above two on first glance contradictrory but obviously not really contradictory positions.

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
well (3.00 / 2)
fairly accurate history.  Even this:

There were also a slew of noobs like Lauren S, hidden comment, greenwood, deedogg and some others who came along to defend the Byron/Soc "whackjob" putsch.

Except I must point out the one fact that you sometimes forget which is I never called for anyone to be banned.  I even spoke out against the bannings here which were much worse than at FSZ:

http://www.pffugeecamp.com/dia...

But other than leaving that wrong impression(about a small point), not too bad a telling of it.


[ Parent ]
yes, I stretched your role a bit... consciously (0.00 / 0)
Generally, you were fair and balanced.

Mainly, I just wanted to draw you into the convo...

(:o)


[ Parent ]
fair and balanced (4.00 / 3)
that is a good one.  I have been very tired, lately.  The last couple of years took a little of the fire out of me.  I am really just now starting to recover. (stress can be a draining thing)  I no longer have any type of federal tracking devices on my body and am pretty much being left alone as long as I keep doing the things that I do.

By and large your history was pretty good.  Just giving credit for that.

btw... just between us... I know everytime you try a trolling 101 move on me.  I just don't care much.


[ Parent ]
Point of order~~~~ (3.00 / 2)
There are no banned accounts here, save for one of Otvos' early screennames; "pootie". Ormond, ever seeking quiddity, requested that "pootie" be formally banned.

(But look at all of my little weevils now crawling forth...Awwwwwwwww!)


[ Parent ]
"point of order" is a signature Melvin phrase, I believe. Nice one, Laura (4.00 / 1)
Didn't someone else originally log in as donkeytale too?

But of course, no one can successfully imitate the Godfather of Troll... I'm like that translucent stripe they embed inside the C Note.  


[ Parent ]
Yes, the name changes weren't necessarily employed to stop confusion regarding various socks (5.00 / 1)
Most of the names I changed were so the "real" people could sign up here and still maintain bloggal continuity wrt their various legacies.  

[ Parent ]
Laura's done pretty good (3.00 / 1)
Which is fairly amazing considering how creepy she is. As for you, you're that funny uncle who's both annoying and fun simultaneously. Today I'm feeling there is a lot of troll love in the air at pffugee.

[ Parent ]
LJ is correct (0.00 / 0)
This is yet another example of DeeDogg talking out of his ass. I've been vindicated. While Deedogg might have been against bannings being done against people who broke no rules, he was clearly trolling me. He was a total ass towards me, when I had never done anything wrong to him. And as it turns out, I was correct with what I was doing. Even when he has the opportunity to say he's sorry and admit he was wrong to troll me about my exposing the Michael Connell hoax, for some reason he doesn't. Oh well.

[ Parent ]
what you have (3.00 / 2)
failed to understand is that I do not know are care about Michael Connell.  Never have cared.  Did Michael post at FSZ, dkos, my Left wing, or here.  I do not remember such a user.  All the CT stuff that you write is not my cup of tea.

In my response I admitted pushing the "soc as a whackjob" line.  But I always said you should be able to post where ever, just reserving the right to mock you when you did.  But I have let even that go and have mostly ignored you.

But the point was---- Donkey gave a more accurate than average history of events.  Any mistaken implications that I (unlike you) may have called for bannings, excepted.


[ Parent ]
Sadistic trolls are the worst (4.00 / 1)
That's the category deedogg fell into. So it's no surprise he spent time for committing a federal crime, white collar at that. He was a KosKopper too.

He's lucky FSZ was scrubbed. Even here he feels the need to call me a conspiracy theorist. I'm nothing of the sort. The Michael Connell Threatened by Karl Rove hoax was a conspiracy hoax put together by Brad Friedman and Speefway Bomber Brett Kimberlin.

I don't have time for such nonsense. Some people never change.


[ Parent ]
You have fallen into the CT trap from time to time, as we've both noted: fighting CT with CT. (3.00 / 1)
And he does make a good point about why people tend to hate you.

Deedogg admits to having dogged you. He's admitted to having been convicted of a crime and has served his full sentence. I have no idea what the crime was, nor whether he deserved imprisonment.

But when you say he hasn't changed, I think that you are flat wrong, simply blinded by your personal animosity.

And I hope that you have truly changed too, as you seem to have, and not just situationally, depending on the circumstances.


[ Parent ]
I don't have (4.50 / 2)
the time or energy to argue with you.  I give you your props as a master troll.  You should own your troll status and not try to pretend you are something else.  Get thicker skin or quit the game.  It is really just that simple.

Embrace the Troll status that you have worked for years to earn.

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and btw (3.33 / 3)
grow thicker skin.  You agravate just about every one on the internets that comes into contact with you.  Don't expect flowers and sunshine all the time.

But hey, you know I love you!

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Not bad, but you left out my blahgnality's heroic defense of free speech on tubes (5.00 / 1)

One point I remember making is that for all participants the fear of being banned is enough to make it a non-free speech zone. So your off-on banned-unbanned status was less important than the fact that you were banned and it was not a 'mistake'.

The record is there in the previous freespeechzone.  

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness, For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people, For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry. -- A-Hep


[ Parent ]
Agreed and you departed both MLW and FSZ (0.00 / 0)
In defense of bannees.

I also believe, that for whatever reason you are not blogging so much these days, it has effected your schtick quality, especially the linky thingies which are historically a Fairleft strong suit.

Just giving you the bennie of the doubt on that score.


[ Parent ]
Fair enough, fairleft (4.00 / 1)
I wrote my latest post before seeing this. Yes, it's very difficult and probably not even worth it to socratise. I believe what donkeytale wrote and mine below him combined gives a fairly close representation of what happened.

[ Parent ]
Yes, the left is unhappy by definition, especially since Reagan (5.00 / 1)
Having the right join the left in unhappiness seems rare in postmodern times but a bad economy sinks all most boats.

Some commentators on the left, like Greenwald, advocate for both ends of the spectrum to coalesce around common grievances and stick it to the PTB of both parties, at least shorterm, as we hurdle down the predictable collapse of capitalist liberal democracy to first, national socialism (already largely in place, AKA "corporate socialism for the rich and laissez faire for the rest) to the eventual dictatorship of the proletariat predicted by Marx.

The Tea Party movement has stayed in bounds within the GOP to date, trying to reform from within, while the OWS left is non-party coopted so far, altho many including Greenwald would dispute this assertion. Having been involved in OWS I can tell you that the Dems have not coopted OWS although they are trying mightily to do so, at least in picking up the populist energy, which seems to be helping Obama, in particular.

The Right, however, seems completely scornful of OWS, to date, and GOP bound, but that may change, hopefully will change, after the GOP clown show implodes by November.

I believe, harbouring any unforeseen events, such as live boy/dead girl scenarios or complete and total economic collapse (which I believe is unlikely in the next 12 months) that Obama will be re-elected, thus further roiling both wings and perhaps offering additional opportunities to create a populist front coalition to take on the Wall Street forces of greed, corruption and ownership of DC.


[ Parent ]
Hopefully Dustin will stick around- Great post donkeytale (0.00 / 0)
You pretty much nailed it. I am lazy, thus I have shortened my participation in political blogging to I am sick and tired of predictable Repukelicans versus Demotards blahhhging.

There is definitely room for left and right to join forces. We just need to avoid falling for a Huey Long type of politician. (see roots of fascism and totalitarianism)

Great point that a tough economy always brings we the people together. It's difficult for right leaning to spew their capitalism is find and dandy schtick when regular guys have it rough even finding burger flipping jobs.

I agree Obama is in the driver's seat, especially if gas prices can fall below the psychologically pleasing $3/gallon level. Marketers have long known the value of changing goose eggs for cents into one less dollar with 99 cents.

The Republicans truly had a great opportunity to take back the White House. All they needed to do was come up with someone half normal. I wouldn't mind hearing more about Huntsman. Someone told me he is anti-war. I wish I could say with 100% certitude Obama will be re-elected. However, Mitt Romney became governor of Massachusetts. Teddy Kennedy's seat went to a Repuke. It's basically never over until the fat lady is belting out a tune. (see Boston Red Sox 2004)


[ Parent ]
Goodbye Pffugee Camp! (3.00 / 2)
Your preposterous superstar who doesn't like being called a supertroll is leaving comments at other blogs, alleging that my responding to his absurd, unsubstantiated attacks on me here are somehow part of some insane conspiracy to "cyber smear" Socrates.

http://cryingwolfe.wordpress.c...

Prepostericity January 3, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Not only do these people wish to spead hoaxes centering around myself and goatsred to prop up their Team Breitbart and fake activism schtick, they try to get in our heads and get us off our games.

Ron has followed me to pffugee. But the only thing he is accomplishing is tying himself closer to that crowd of hoaxers and cybersmearers. Ron can concern troll all he wants through the passive-aggressive schtick, but that by definition never pans out as evidence in real life.

I've also witnessed efforts made to tarnish my internet persona through the maneuver described by Goatsred's post. Those people are nuts.

http://cryingwolfe.wordpress.c...

Prepostericity January 2, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I'm with I think Dustin and Aaron Worthing. What is the timeline for when shite happened in court, and Ronny Boy "reported" on it? Why don't you "report" on proven perjury from November 14th? Why did you visit Pffugeecamp to say I should lay off of Speedy, yet there's nothing from you about how I have been criminally harassed by Neal Rauhauser? How come you describe me as a supertroll, yet I was the one who scooped this story on every level and at each point, even the current situation?


Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. (0.00 / 0)
And yet again Ron ignores all the crucial questions, like he has this whole thread. Maybe if I care enough, someday I will socratise his bullshit. He has posted a lot of outrageous shit about me and others. Nice try, Rona. Unfortunately, you barked up the wrong trees. You are now only qualified to be a paid troll. Boy, you look like a real jerk. I hope the money was worth it. By chance you are truly insane, I hope you get your act together. Though it does appear you are faking that.

[ Parent ]
this thread needs some color! (5.00 / 1)
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